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ErmacMk5
04/21/2004 04:33 AM (UTC)
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Tanya was the most powerful character in Mortal Kombat 4, tied with Quan Chi. If you are too blind to see that, that's your problem. Personally, the same people who say Tanya isn't top tier, are the idiots who say scorpion is top tier in MK4. I smoked every single Scorpion and Reptile player I faced as Tanya.
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Satyagraha
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04/21/2004 05:31 AM (UTC)
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Elitekombatant Wrote:
To say she was top tier in your area only gives us an insight to your area not having decent competition...

I seriously doubt that.
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A win streak could consist of some button masher putting in 50c and playing her against the computer and going all the way to the top of the tower. That would get them on the Win Streak List.

WTF, are you on crack? Mashing? The computer? No, I'm talking about people, humans, real players. Sitting there on a fucking stool for five hours pwning peeps. Do you actually think I or any serious player gives a shit about the "computer?" The simple fact that you even brought that up proves you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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I dont see where you get that she contained air prowess and zoned well. Its not like she zipped across the screen faster or better than anyone else. She didnt even have a type of teleport.

Do you even know what priority is? Teleport? You don't need a teleport to zone, you need to be able to cover space and fill the screen with bullshit. Which she did well. ALL of her juggles cover area and push peeps into corner traps. qcb+lp is a fucking wall when spaced correctly. You're telling me hcb+lk doesn't cover space? Add to that the AA hp's and you're arguing?
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I dont even think I ever lost to a "tanya" player, computer or human opponent.

To say that only gives us an insight to your area not having decent competition.
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I just dont think she was a good enough character to bring back and I supported that with examples of why.

You supported it with bullshit examples and judging by your response to my post, un-educated oppinion. You think she's trash because you didn't like her boomerang and fats? Sounds like you're questioning why people like her, but the answers which are given, are not the right ones for you, apparently. Then you get off on telling people to think? But, eh, oppinion is oppinion, so we can't argue that shit, can we.

I agree with Temp. This shit is fucking stupid. Only a few people care to actually learn something and think objectively. To do so one would need to swallow their pride; lord knows peeps aren't about to do that.
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RSK1980
04/21/2004 05:42 AM (UTC)
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Tanya's moves were hardly orignal.

Fireball .. same as tons of characters.
Spinning Kick .. Ripped of Cammy's Cannon Drill
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Humulis
04/21/2004 07:02 AM (UTC)
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her corkscrew/splits moves made some decent combos. other than that, she was a bland kitana jobber. mayhaps they will add some flare for her in mk6 but yeah...kitana is better. since tanya betrayed edenia to shinnok, and sindel is back for mk6, odds are sindel is looking to whoop her traitor ass.
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EliteKombatant
04/21/2004 07:05 AM (UTC)
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For Saty: I will stop the arguing about the Tanya aspect, my opinion is she sucks, you think she is a good fighter. That is that. The only thing I hope is that I run into you around October online while you are using your zone covering weak ass character, then we will put all this to rest once and for all.


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04/21/2004 07:09 AM (UTC)
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Tanya is a brilliant character. She has great moves and Fatalities. If you combined her speed and the potential combo ability of her moves together, she was a force to be reckoned with.

Her weapon when used properly would stop the opponent getting anywhere near her so she could wipe them out with projectiles!

The Split Kick and Corkscrew Kick allowed for huge combo damage. In a way, I used her similar to Raiden but you have several more options and sneaky ways of play with Tanya. She's great!
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EliteKombatant
04/21/2004 07:16 AM (UTC)
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FINALLY!!! Thank you TGRANT. You are the one person who actually read my first post and replied with back up and your reasoning. That's all I asked. I said why I did not like her and asked for people to please enlighten me to why they liked her. I by no means think that just because I dont like her she should fall of the face of the earth, I just have my negative view of her. I personally liked Reiko more than any other character in MK4 and I dominated with him. I can guarantee that over half the MK supporters hate Reiko, you cannot please everyone and I just happen to be the person you cannot please when it come to Tanya. But, I wanted to understand why people liked her so much, so again, thank you TGRANT for your reasoning and explanation. Much appreciated and much respect.

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04/21/2004 07:25 AM (UTC)
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Elitekombatant Wrote:
FINALLY!!! Thank you TGRANT. You are the one person who actually read my first post and replied with back up and your reasoning. That's all I asked. I said why I did not like her and asked for people to please enlighten me to why they liked her. I by no means think that just because I dont like her she should fall of the face of the earth, I just have my negative view of her. I personally liked Reiko more than any other character in MK4 and I dominated with him. I can guarantee that over half the MK supporters hate Reiko, you cannot please everyone and I just happen to be the person you cannot please when it come to Tanya. But, I wanted to understand why people liked her so much, so again, thank you TGRANT for your reasoning and explanation. Much appreciated and much respect.

"I don't chase em' I replace em'"


No problem. I never read through the rest of the page fully. I can't believe out of all those repleis I'm the only one whose done what you've asked lol.

Anyway, my reply was shorter than it could've been. I understand why most people probably don't like her. Some take her as a Kitana rip off but there is nothing remotely similar about the two other than background detail (they come from Edenia etc.)

Both play considerably differently, and imo Tanya is the better of the two in combat. She is deadlier, faster and very powerful. Speed is a trait I look for in fighters and Tanya being the fastest imo on MK4, was perfect. And yes she was a bitch to fight against and that probably put people off her as well as her story.

I think people need to try her out and give her a little more time to get used to her. As I see it, your missing out on a great character.
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EliteKombatant
04/21/2004 07:35 AM (UTC)
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Well as far as women fighters go, I am a Mileena fighter through and through, talk about fast and good combos. She was deadly from the get go in MK2. I am very enthused to see her in MK:D. Maybe Tanya will surprise me, but I am banking on her not, simply my impression of her from MK4. We will have to wait and see though.
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04/21/2004 07:41 AM (UTC)
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Elitekombatant Wrote:
Well as far as women fighters go, I am a Mileena fighter through and through, talk about fast and good combos. She was deadly from the get go in MK2. I am very enthused to see her in MK:D. Maybe Tanya will surprise me, but I am banking on her not, simply my impression of her from MK4. We will have to wait and see though.


Mileena is brilliant also! MK2 and MKGold were her games! She became somewhat lacking on UMK3/MKT, but she was still great because of speedy and damaging combos. However, when it coems to female ownage, Jade, Tanya, Nitara and Sonya rule in that field for me. If I had the chance, I'd rename Tanya Ownage! lol tongue
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Humulis
04/21/2004 08:10 AM (UTC)
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there could be far, far worse characters to return like jax, stryker, jarek, reiko, moloch, cage, sonya, shinnok...all of whom i will never miss.
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04/21/2004 11:52 AM (UTC)
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Elitekombatant Wrote:
Saying she has ties with Sindel because she is from Edenia is a vague assumption, you have no idea why she is here. Just because she misled in MK4 doesn't make her a shoe-in for deception, a lot of characters had misleading stories, that doesn't make them sure contenders for MK:D.

Actually I think it's a pretty good bet that these two being in the game together, that their stories will have something to do with each other. Perhaps Tanya is the reason for Kitana's absense and Sindel wants to find her daughter which means she has to find and go through Tanya, maybe Sindel wants a few "words" with Tanya for her massive betrayal of Edenia. I think it's a given that Tanya and Sindel are gonna butt heads in MKD IMO there is just no way around it. As for the theard itself: I agree that Tanya wasn't anything special in MK4, but MKD could be a turning point for her. I think that what someone said about people not liking Tanya because everyone's fighting techniques were the same and no one really had that much of a difference aside from specials is true. I'm not saying the you pesonally have this reason, but I bet that it was a very big deciding factor for other people. But in MKD all that is changed. Tanya could become great in MKD just give her a chance to surprise you. I know that it seems very unlikely to you now, but that doesn't mean (by some small miracle smile ) that you can't change you mind after playing MKD. I changed my mind about Li Mei and Drahmin two characters I absolutely had no use for. So just give her a chance, and if you still don't like her well that's fine. The point is though you haven't played her in the new game and a lot of the opinons you formed of her from MK4 could turn around in the new game. smile
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04/21/2004 12:08 PM (UTC)
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tanya IS top tier in mk4. it's fact. not opinion.
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hoodlum
04/21/2004 12:28 PM (UTC)
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Tanya Has some weak Qualities in Mk4 but If you know How to use her(like Tgrant) then you can master the courages to say she's Shweet but even with out moves I think She will be a good addition because I happen to believe in second chances. Now I'm going to go And work on my video game skills.
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