UPDATED: Dominant characters so far
UPDATED: Dominant characters so far
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posted10/09/2004 09:18 PM (UTC)by
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Changed the list a bit heh:
Scorpion (thanks to MKL) - Mugai Ryu d+1 and f+1 are unpunishable...combine f+1 a spear then hellfire and you have yourself a nice mixup game. Scorpion is once again broken, just not with Pi Gua, which brings us to:
Hotaru - Pi Gua b+1 is not completely safe, but mix that up with a throw and you have a monster of a wakeup game. His throw juggles, which makes it worse. His Lava Burst move hits you even if you try to sidestep...the perfect keep away move. If it hits you go into the wake up game above. Broken as hell = Hotaru.
Bo' Rai Cho - Combo Breaker into Puke lol...Sumo just hurts. Need I say more?
Nightwolf - Tae Kwon Do old shit and FF+4. Use DU+1 like you would Scorpion's Hellfire.
Shujinko has tons of options and Liu Kang looks promising.
As for my old list?
Baraka is still ok, but not as safe as I thought. Hellfire rips him apart, and the Blades B+4 -- 33211 mixup isn't so great as you can see the sweep coming a mile away.
Sindel's got a huge =40%+ combo...but if you can ever start it is what makes her not so good opposed to what I thought previously.
Feel free to add to this list.
Changed the list a bit heh:
Scorpion (thanks to MKL) - Mugai Ryu d+1 and f+1 are unpunishable...combine f+1 a spear then hellfire and you have yourself a nice mixup game. Scorpion is once again broken, just not with Pi Gua, which brings us to:
Hotaru - Pi Gua b+1 is not completely safe, but mix that up with a throw and you have a monster of a wakeup game. His throw juggles, which makes it worse. His Lava Burst move hits you even if you try to sidestep...the perfect keep away move. If it hits you go into the wake up game above. Broken as hell = Hotaru.
Bo' Rai Cho - Combo Breaker into Puke lol...Sumo just hurts. Need I say more?
Nightwolf - Tae Kwon Do old shit and FF+4. Use DU+1 like you would Scorpion's Hellfire.
Shujinko has tons of options and Liu Kang looks promising.
As for my old list?
Baraka is still ok, but not as safe as I thought. Hellfire rips him apart, and the Blades B+4 -- 33211 mixup isn't so great as you can see the sweep coming a mile away.
Sindel's got a huge =40%+ combo...but if you can ever start it is what makes her not so good opposed to what I thought previously.
Feel free to add to this list.
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For me, Baraka. He's a monster and his blades are fast and very punishing.
Also, Ermac is pretty brutal with his special moves and his weapon stance is extremely powerful.
Kobra, and Bo'Rai Cho have also been very strong for me.
Also, Ermac is pretty brutal with his special moves and his weapon stance is extremely powerful.
Kobra, and Bo'Rai Cho have also been very strong for me.
I dont know about you guys but Nightwolf is a pretty strong char.
His combo in his axe stance where it ends with the kick has long range and damaging. His shoulder rush move seems to go through anything. He also has those low kicks that connect into combos in his 2nd stance.
to Timco: Combo breakers are really efficient...u can break almost any move if u got the timing right (like SC2's guard break but limited and easier to do)
His combo in his axe stance where it ends with the kick has long range and damaging. His shoulder rush move seems to go through anything. He also has those low kicks that connect into combos in his 2nd stance.
to Timco: Combo breakers are really efficient...u can break almost any move if u got the timing right (like SC2's guard break but limited and easier to do)
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I think that Baraka and Kobra are the two dominant characters so far.Kobras quick lead in moves are really effective to use to keep an opponent off guard. My friend and I just played him for hours.
Darrius is pretty nice too. I gotta play him more to see how he is.
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Darrius is pretty nice too. I gotta play him more to see how he is.
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what does the follow fighters weapons look like
Li Mei
havik
tanya
shujinko
jade
sindel
can ya discribe to me what it looks like or better yet give me a site that shows me what they look like
Li Mei
havik
tanya
shujinko
jade
sindel
can ya discribe to me what it looks like or better yet give me a site that shows me what they look like
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li mei's fighting styles r
LU HE BA FA and MI ZONG which i think is a pitty cause i liked Baji Quan
dunno bout jade
i have been asking people this question but does anyone have the moves and fatalities for
Liu Kang, Raiden and Kobra
LU HE BA FA and MI ZONG which i think is a pitty cause i liked Baji Quan
dunno bout jade
i have been asking people this question but does anyone have the moves and fatalities for
Liu Kang, Raiden and Kobra


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Pi Gua was changed around quite a bit, I'm not a fan of Hotaru, as I was hoping to be.
I personally think Ashrah is great, she has many short but sweet combos, and 2 of her specials are very good.
I personally think Ashrah is great, she has many short but sweet combos, and 2 of her specials are very good.

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Yay, I FINALLY get to read a post!!!!
Anywho... I think you're right so far Konqrr, Kobra is my go to guy at the moment. Baraka is good too, but what the hell happened to Hung Gar??????????????
Hung Gar was probably the #3 style in DA, and now we get...hmmm... 2 good moves? 1,2 is still ok and was Reptile's key for spacing. f+3 (used to be f+4) is NOT as good as it used to be, it doesn't recover fast at all anymore.
Bo Rai Cho isn't the same either! I don't know if he has the infinate, but I'm not concerned about it at the moment. But they changed Drunken Fist too! All of his animations are too extensive like the rest of the game...
It really really really seems like they attempted to balance this game more than DA, BUT... Why was it done by dumbing the game down???
Why Boon??? Why???
The juggles are overly moderated. It seems, from my playing, that you can only use one launcher per combo. And if you try to finish off your juggle with a combo it stalls you horribly!
My biggest beef is that all the attacks recover way too slowly. There's still too many frames of animation at the end of every attack! When I first played Deadly Alliance, I thought this was just a reward/penalty system for not pushing the correct buttons for a specific combo. While that is the basic idea... It's a horrible one!
For a basic example, why can you not??? (back to Deception)
Sub-Zero(shotokan): 1,1,b-f-4? nope
Nightwolf(Val Tudo): 1,1,f-f-4? nope
Baraka(Silate): 1,1,f-f-3? nope
Do you see what I'm getting at? These are just basic examples which could be applied to what could be a more advanced way of playing the game.
The attacks recover to slowly to even attempt another normal attack. ex, Sub-Zero(shotokan again): 1,1 *pause* b+3 to attempt a mix-up!
Not that I had the highest hopes for this game... But I'm not very happy.
The best thing about this game is it's online. And even that can be annoying having to wait so long for a game, then have it rejected or already joined by another player.
Sorry for the ramblings.
Anywho... I think you're right so far Konqrr, Kobra is my go to guy at the moment. Baraka is good too, but what the hell happened to Hung Gar??????????????
Hung Gar was probably the #3 style in DA, and now we get...hmmm... 2 good moves? 1,2 is still ok and was Reptile's key for spacing. f+3 (used to be f+4) is NOT as good as it used to be, it doesn't recover fast at all anymore.
Bo Rai Cho isn't the same either! I don't know if he has the infinate, but I'm not concerned about it at the moment. But they changed Drunken Fist too! All of his animations are too extensive like the rest of the game...
It really really really seems like they attempted to balance this game more than DA, BUT... Why was it done by dumbing the game down???
Why Boon??? Why???
The juggles are overly moderated. It seems, from my playing, that you can only use one launcher per combo. And if you try to finish off your juggle with a combo it stalls you horribly!
My biggest beef is that all the attacks recover way too slowly. There's still too many frames of animation at the end of every attack! When I first played Deadly Alliance, I thought this was just a reward/penalty system for not pushing the correct buttons for a specific combo. While that is the basic idea... It's a horrible one!
For a basic example, why can you not??? (back to Deception)
Sub-Zero(shotokan): 1,1,b-f-4? nope
Nightwolf(Val Tudo): 1,1,f-f-4? nope
Baraka(Silate): 1,1,f-f-3? nope
Do you see what I'm getting at? These are just basic examples which could be applied to what could be a more advanced way of playing the game.
The attacks recover to slowly to even attempt another normal attack. ex, Sub-Zero(shotokan again): 1,1 *pause* b+3 to attempt a mix-up!
Not that I had the highest hopes for this game... But I'm not very happy.
The best thing about this game is it's online. And even that can be annoying having to wait so long for a game, then have it rejected or already joined by another player.
Sorry for the ramblings.
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Darrius is pretty solid a lot better then I thought he would be.Ermac is also very strong.Best wepon so far Jade staff fighting style is very good and Sub-Zero's Kori blade got even worst...HOW THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN?Any way all the characters are solid i've not been let down from any one yet....well maybe Bo rai Cho.
As far as the hidden characters I have only found Kenshi,Jade and Tanya so far gotta keep looking.
As far as the hidden characters I have only found Kenshi,Jade and Tanya so far gotta keep looking.
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Yea I would have to agree that Baraka, Tanya, and Shujinko are dominant right now. Baraka is hella fast, great range, and nice recovery.
Altho I do use Scorpion a hella lot
Altho I do use Scorpion a hella lot
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Kabal owns.His low attacks in his first stance have great range. His deceptions come in with his special moves and the whirlwind rush and the the double charcter slam.Jade is pretty unstopable too.noob-moke is the ultimate confusion charcter .


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Is it just me or are like NONE of the move safe to do anymore really? Some styles have just been completely raped...
By the way, I'm working on a Li Mei FAQ. I might post it on this board sometime but eventually it's going to be up on GameFAQs.
By the way, I'm working on a Li Mei FAQ. I might post it on this board sometime but eventually it's going to be up on GameFAQs.
Im not surprised about Tanya.
She was Top Tier in Mk4, the best character in that game. Im glad to know she is still as deadly.
By peoples posts I can see that Sub-Zero has gotten more difficult to play with, and that Scorpion isnt as strong as he was in MKDA.
Kobra looked deadly since day 1 when we saw the combo vids.
I think Nightwolf is a Top Tier, many agree that he is very easy and powerful to use.
I wonder about Sindel and Mileena...
She was Top Tier in Mk4, the best character in that game. Im glad to know she is still as deadly.
By peoples posts I can see that Sub-Zero has gotten more difficult to play with, and that Scorpion isnt as strong as he was in MKDA.
Kobra looked deadly since day 1 when we saw the combo vids.
I think Nightwolf is a Top Tier, many agree that he is very easy and powerful to use.
I wonder about Sindel and Mileena...

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Mileena blows...you can't do shit after hitting with her roll. Her damage potential is nil.
Sindel is awesome, unlocked her last night. Her scream doesn't lower damage at all
Ermac is a little bitch...that damn slam/dive kick move pisses me off. (That means you SST
)
Kira is ok...but her only real damage comes from her Kenpo 11u1 juggle starter which sucks because if you miss or they block...you are open for anything your opponent wants to do to you.
Sub is hard to play...he's even more defensive this time around.
Scorpion is great, he still has some nice hellfire setups.
Sindel is awesome, unlocked her last night. Her scream doesn't lower damage at all
Ermac is a little bitch...that damn slam/dive kick move pisses me off. (That means you SST
Kira is ok...but her only real damage comes from her Kenpo 11u1 juggle starter which sucks because if you miss or they block...you are open for anything your opponent wants to do to you.
Sub is hard to play...he's even more defensive this time around.
Scorpion is great, he still has some nice hellfire setups.
actually i was ranked #2 as mkl but then i couldnt get a game and people were ignoring me so i lost a few games here and there so i could keep playing. eventually i just had my friend play on it and i made a new one. i'm on there as T0M BRADY now some place in the top 10. its hard to get a game with anyone ranked high now. most of them wanna play easy games with little to no challenge.
on the xbox i'm tom brady 267 but i cant get a game at all. the xbox version is wack. it has such a shitty lobby combared to the ps2. plus i get so many disconnects and several losses because of some of them.
anyway, if anyone wants a game msg me on aim or find me in a room. my aim name is Tom Brady 267.
btw......
Liu Kang is BROKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on the xbox i'm tom brady 267 but i cant get a game at all. the xbox version is wack. it has such a shitty lobby combared to the ps2. plus i get so many disconnects and several losses because of some of them.
anyway, if anyone wants a game msg me on aim or find me in a room. my aim name is Tom Brady 267.
btw......
Liu Kang is BROKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Noob - Smoke is pretty deadly if you know what to do.........
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4 characters stand out well to me after getting everyone:
-Liu Kang is crazy, I love his speed, and he combo'a well.
-Raiden is a great fighter, his teleport is hella usefull, and the staff has incredible range
-Noob/Smoke I like simply because it's easy to start screwing with someone if you use him
-Shujinko, I've got all his moves now, and it's pretty impressive with all those moves.
-Liu Kang is crazy, I love his speed, and he combo'a well.
-Raiden is a great fighter, his teleport is hella usefull, and the staff has incredible range
-Noob/Smoke I like simply because it's easy to start screwing with someone if you use him
-Shujinko, I've got all his moves now, and it's pretty impressive with all those moves.
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Luke_Devil Wrote:
li mei's fighting styles r
LU HE BA FA and MI ZONG which i think is a pitty cause i liked Baji Quan
dunno bout jade
i have been asking people this question but does anyone have the moves and fatalities for
Liu Kang, Raiden and Kobra
li mei's fighting styles r
LU HE BA FA and MI ZONG which i think is a pitty cause i liked Baji Quan
dunno bout jade
i have been asking people this question but does anyone have the moves and fatalities for
Liu Kang, Raiden and Kobra
http://www.syclonefx.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16 go there
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With out a doubt Bo'RaiCho and Asrah (what ever that girl with the funny hats name is.) Bo'Rai Cho's sumo is THE most damaging stance I have seen out of all the chars. And that chick in white has crazy sword combos!
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