killer please post that vid i would like to see where i tried to infin you. maybe you talking about that n/s where i was poking and then tried a grab? i don't think i even hit you with a poke so how is that going into a infin? and hotaru i didn't jump over and walked up and grab, 50/50. thats what i always do with my home boy taru, grab punch or combo. maybe you need some glasses dude or something.

post it i wanna see, technically he can throw b1 walk under throw combo. thats not an infinite. i can deff be the one to tell u if its an infinite.
in corner throw d1 throw unbreakable (legit)
i get people calling this and infinite to (isrealicomplainer)
u4 d1 d1 b1 keep d1 ing till they duck u4 repeat. just a gay corner trap nothing more.

man, if someone does a throw into a free throw, they get an infinite done to them. 2 throws in one combo is fuckin lame!

actually if u just stand there and dont do the free throw, and they dont duck, and u decide throw again... its basically the same thing, when u lock the camera, u have no clue whether u did it or not because its not an easy free throw, its an earned free throw, espicially online. so theres no telling the difference, just 50/50.. and i agree, throwing sucks..
red i figured they all worked cuz i did most back when i learned that ffff shit, u see how easy it is do with smoke now, before it was nearly impossible. i dont see the difference between anyone cuz its all done the same, thanks to u.. but ur talking scorp and bo? scorp cant double throw, my bad. bo can but only in corner and sidestep thrown again in weapon, not online tho.. (lag) but scorps cancel is easy if thats what u mean, like we said its different for each move, B+1 happens to be easy, but i thought u meant throw into throw, thats different, cant really say how easy it is between characters because truth is, its not that easy. f3 throw is easy. throw into throw is not and is basically when your opponent is respecting your quickness and defense off things they cant sidestep or see themselves move out of... only time id ever double throw anyone is with lag anyway.... u cant even walk up on people with lag, its sick... youre forced to play counter.
i hate this game..

Pig, his axe techniques won't allow him to win vs any elite players because we know how to beat it! I think instead of bitching about things as petty as free throws that you should embrace it and accept it as part of the game. Don't blame Killer B for just trying to win. Ermac's main strength outside of unbreakable damage and great low pokes is that he has several free throws to tack on damage after combos.

Just checked the tape... It's full of Stretchshrimp kicking my ass last night. My bad... Guess I should change tapes when I say I have proof of something. Maybe I don't know what an infinite is, but all I know is he kept doing that 2 handed push smack, then even if I ducked he would throw me, then he repeated it 4 times and I couldn't break it or duck the throw. Blocked high and low. If that's not an infinite, I don't know what is. By the way, why would I come on here saying you infinited me if I beat you like 5-1? Was I jealous that it wasn't 6-0? I get beat all the time. I will tell you guys when I do. I never denied it when HB said he beat the shit out of me a month ago, I have no reason to. I don't think I've ever had any beef with Ragekil in the past so why would I come on here and just start shit with a random person that I beat bad??? Doesn't make much sense...
Pig, you can say my talk is garbage, you can say I'm crying over something 4 months old, you can say whatever you want, but here are the facts...
1. You continually say how lame people are because they take this "game" to seriously... Which is the only reason I pointed out what you did 4 months ago, not because I'm still mad at you over the lameness. It just shows that it's a bit more than a game to you, so I brought it up.
2. You talk smack to get people started and then say you don't want to fight about it, as proven here.
3. You say some serious BS that doesn't make any sense, then when you are called on it, you fall right back into your favorite defense mechanism... "I won't argue on here." Well, if you're not going to argue on here, stop stating your ridiculous negative opinions about everyone when you know damn well it's just going to cause a debate. Here's an example... You said my Nightwolf is the SAME as my Ermac without the free throws or axe lift unbreakable. What the hell are you talking about? So there are 2 things you bitch about on my Ermac... Then you say my Nightwolf is just as bad minus those 2 things??? I think you need to change the name of your rock band from "pig of the hut," to "No Sense." If nothing else from the above facts, I am dying to hear why you think my Nightwolf is not respectable. Either that or just admit that you're in complete denial and anyone that can beat you has to be put down... Including a 100% clean and legit Nightwolf. If you don't have the time to answer this one question, we'll all just assume you're talking out of your ass as usual.

I understand what Verse is saying and hes right. Any good player in this game should be able to counter that. Ermac couldnt even touch me yesterday. Its annoying but its easy to beat if you know when to expect it coming. Ill take Ermac over N/S anyday. Everyone who uses N/S does his semi and they dont even know it. Believe me, I have ducked numerous times after b1 and I still get thrown when they jump in.
So what the fuck is the difference between ermacs unbreakable into a wall for a free throw for 60% and throwing 4 times with Lui-kang in his secong stance. Its the same shit. They both can be avoided from the start and their both unbreakable and you cant get out of them. Same exact shit.
I also hear what your saying Pig but nightwolf is not cheap. Killer you do take his free after 12 or 13 in tomahawks. You also do his free ff4 after every plant. Its cool and its not cheap. Killer B must have the second best nightwolf after Alexie. Nightwolf is all about mind games and you use those well. Props.
After a year and a half, you people should have learned how play around these things.

I believe if you throw 4 times straight with Liu while he's in second stance it's a four-time free throw. Even in is first you throw after throw it's impossible to escape. I pause when they get it up, then I throw.

Alexei is right. If you continuosly throw with Liu Kang without pause it's an infinite. Ed Boon is terrible at making video games.

Yes, but if you stop at 60% its legit. Just duck the initial throw. Same as unbreakable. Just block the axe his or whatever they use to start the combo. Its the same exact thing. 60% is 60% no matter how you get it. This discussion is gonna kill the tourney. We should move this somewhere else and make it a sticky thread cause this topic always comes up. You might as well just match B N R with Alexie cause thats what the final battle is gonna be.

Sure, just count me out of the mix. I see how it is...

So you're saying partial infinites are legit? I guess, I personally don't like it at all, but I still destroy people who wanna play like that as well.
Don't be so fast to count out Quik,Crk or Groy either.

yes walking up with kang in 2nd stance is and infinite, which is a problem cause after a throw i can block high, knowing u cant 50/50 me cause if u throw me again u used a semi on me, yet people duble throw than i pullout the ns ss crap.
as fo jumping in after b1, the throw is duckable ... if u are getting thrown i dont no what to tell u except ur laging and hes recovery on his screen before u see it. there is a way to free throw after b1, but its not by jumping in or sidesteping.

If people do two throws in a row with Liu, it's ok in my book as long as I didn't TRY to duck. If I try to duck and you still get the throw, you will know. It will say "Opponent Quit"

caught in a lie killer, now stop talking bad bout my game before you look even more stupid.

Spoken like a true coward. OneAtari2600 is my gamertag. Add me to your list. Let's set up a time. I don't feel like turning over rocks looking for a coward.
*sniff* *sniff* I smelllll pussssyyy.

LOL. Yes, we all believe you MK. Thanks for pointing that out and reminding us. It's out there man. You look bad. This has been 2-3 months now and you keep avoiding me. I even joined the tournament at your request and now your hiding again.

I know its a infinite and I dont play that way with Kang but what is the difference between doing 4 free throws with Kang and doing the Ermac unbreakable into a wall. They both do 60% and are unescapable. They both can be avoided from start.

same difference in how people bitch about my game play with free throwing. if its not a brady guide combo its unfair. if u are gonna think like that than n/s unbreakable ss unbreakable is ... if u feel this way than do stuff like b1 plant ss throw unbreakable. i fell the same way with jade her first 4 hits do 30 % damage on her combo. f3 throw f2 33% equals it out .

Killer: I'm glad you have an outlet such as MKO to release your tension. As I said before i'm done talking to you. I simply stated my opinion and you went off like a little bitch. Again, you are of no use of my time. My opinion of your play stands firm. Try not to get so offended next time someone critiques your playing. Your main weakness is you can't handle any of it.
Next time we play I will play dirty if you use free throws...I will use them as well. You can then post the videos and whine. I don't care if i win or lose. If you happen to beat me 15-0 you won't ruin my day so you can relax. Also, Try not getting so offended next time someone calls you an expletive, It seems that really got to you. I've been called everything in the world at one time or another. But to be offended on a xbox is quite dorky of you let alone an online gaming forum.
To all of you: I encourage all to stop arguing, just state your opinion and try to feel you have to have the last word. Just think about the time you're wasteing.

The difference is simply fighting game etiquette. Ermac's axe d+2,teleslam,d+2,teleslam,jump over,free throw is a juggle. The only thing people bitch about with that is the fact that it does 60% and they can't break out of it. That's fucking stupid, and you can blame Ed Boon for that, too. By putting something like combo breakers that no other fighting game has to cover up the horrendous gameplay and poor testing, he unknowingly made the community a bunch of whining bitches. Did you know that in most other fighting games that once you hit the air that you will more than likely lose a huge amount of your bar? Tekken,Soul Calibur,Dead or Alive,Virtua Fighter,etc do not have combo breakers. Stop crying about eating big damage. Ermac is a lower mid tier character. Damage is all that he has. There's about 16 characters better than him, and yet I don't see the community crying about Raiden,Liu Kang,Hotaru,etc at all. Why? Because they don't have huge damage that's unbreakable? Cry me a river.
Comparing something that was loosely intended to be in the game(ermac's juggle) to a semi infinite is retarded.

If you throw me four times in a row with kang in the corner that shit is a cheap infinite and you will get cheesed to the highest extent of my ability in retaliation.

Well in my opinion, I think this tournament is going nowhere. I patiently wait, but there's a limit.
I'm out of this Tourney because it's taking way too long.
So anyone in the tournament, you've little less to worry about now.
I can't believe this was back in September.
I wouldn't be surprised if many decide to quit. All of you know of my superiority and unfortunately, the time is drawing near.

"All of you know of my superiority and unfortunately, the time is drawing near."
Damn, this guy is top 10 and he's not ashamed to let people know that he realizes this.

Well, I guess you're not reading. I said I could care less that you called me an expletive, and the reason I brought it up was because you said you don't get mad over a game. But yet, you keep trying to make it look like I care and you don't. You don't see me calling people names over this game. You did, thus showing that you do care enough to get annoyed over it. Which is why I brought it up, to show you're a hypocrite, not to let you know it bothered me. You can think in your little mind that I've been dwelling over a stranger calling me a pussy for hitting him off a death trap for 4 months if you'd like, but I think that's even a little unrealistic for you to dream up.
You can state your opinions but unless you were just born yesterday, you have to realize when your opinion is against someone here and it's reflecting on them negatively, they are going to retaliate. This is how arguments start. How this one started as a matter of fact. I could care less if I beat you 15-0 too, or if you beat me 15-0... It's just a game, but I will continue to point out all the loophole in your arguments as I've done 3 times here already... Oh wait, you don't argue... LOL!!!
P.S. What is it about my Nightwolf that you say is just as bad as Ermac without the free throws and 3 axe combo? Still waiting to hear. It's not an argument, it's just the reasoning behind your statement you made earlier.

Yes he is one of the best, but he's impatient, has more excuses than anyone in the rare moments that he does lose, and has "quit MKD" more times than Bobby Blaze...