Why even both killing off characters?
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posted04/20/2004 03:11 PM (UTC)by
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Noktis
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02/27/2004 06:34 PM (UTC)
I don't even understand why they kill off characters in MK games anymore. Since the beginning people have been dying, then coming back and coming back and coming back and coming back.

They've killed so many characters over the years I can't even (or don't feel like) count.

In MK Deadly Alliance in the opening movie they killed Liu Kang and they made it sound like this revelation, a new beginning for MK without some annoying sounding Bruce Lee ripoff overshadowing everyone. Then they bring him back the very next game which makes the feel of Deadly Alliance just retarded because every time you watch the opening CG you're going to look at it and just think to yourself "Bullshit" because you friggin played as Liu Kang in every game since Deadly Alliance.

All I'm saying is why even bother killing characters off if they're just coming back. In fact, why even have a damn storyline if you aren't going to give a crap about it enough to carry on with it through the next games. (And I don't mean brining back Liu Kang as a zombie. That's just an excuse to bring the S.O.B. back.)

Please refrain from creating such ambiguous subject titles. Also, stray from typing them in all caps. ~Crow~
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Shinomune
04/18/2004 02:14 PM (UTC)
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noktis Wrote:
In MK Deadly Alliance in the opening movie they killed Liu Kang and they made it sound like this revelation, a new beginning for MK without some annoying sounding Bruce Lee ripoff overshadowing everyone.


And Johhny Cage? grin grin grin
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04/18/2004 02:18 PM (UTC)
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He's another character I was talking about I just didn't want to make a big list of complaints and people returning from the dead. I'm just saying if you're going to take the time to make a story and kill off a character, keep the story going and KEEP THE CHARACTER DEAD instead of bringing them back over and over again.
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Shinomune
04/18/2004 02:22 PM (UTC)
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I talked about to that Johnny Cage, in the MKDA, is clearly the American version of Bruce Lee, since is a star of the cinema of martial arts, uses the Jeet Kune Do (created by Bruce Lee) and uses nunchakus (weapon preferred of Bruce Lee in the films) grin
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04/18/2004 02:24 PM (UTC)
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That seems to be the angle that they're going with now. I have a feeling Kang will stay dead. MK's been reborn, so to speak. If they want to keep it serious, they won't cater to the fans who want him to come back. They would kill any credibility they've re-acquired after MK:DA in doing just that.
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04/18/2004 02:24 PM (UTC)
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Johnny Cage would be nothing compared to Bruce Lee.

I'm talking about how Liu Kang dresses like Bruce Lee did in some films with the black kung fu style pants with plain shoes. And the "WAAAAAGGGH!" you know what I'm talking about...
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you will die sister and i will take this realm for myself

04/18/2004 02:32 PM (UTC)
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i hate lui kangs sound effects ! he is so 1992 lol
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Dext3r
04/18/2004 02:49 PM (UTC)
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Cage never died. It's explained in his DA bio.
I'm not happy that Liu's back, but let's give him a chance. A good story might justify his return. And who knows... what if the new Liu is just an instrument for deception? As we know there's gonna be a series of twists and turns in Deception. I wouldn't be surprised, if the DK uses a Liu Kang look-alike to achieve his goals. It might even explain the ridiculous zombie thing.
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red_dragon
04/18/2004 03:59 PM (UTC)
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Liu's death was, in my opinion one of the best moves in the MK series. The shock of killing the "hero" in an intro was really cool, and Liu had grown very stale. It gave the feeling that nobody, important or not, is safe from death, that not just fifth rate cannon fodder like Jarek die.

Liu should stay dead for another coule of games at least. I wouldn't miss him if he were gone for good.
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Deneb
04/18/2004 05:06 PM (UTC)
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noktis Wrote:
I don't even understand why they kill off characters in MK games anymore. Since the beginning people have been dying, then coming back and coming back and coming back and coming back.

They've killed so many characters over the years I can't even (or don't feel like) count.

In MK Deadly Alliance in the opening movie they killed Liu Kang and they made it sound like this revelation, a new beginning for MK without some annoying sounding Bruce Lee ripoff overshadowing everyone. Then they bring him back the very next game which makes the feel of Deadly Alliance just retarded because every time you watch the opening CG you're going to look at it and just think to yourself "Bullshit" because you friggin played as Liu Kang in every game since Deadly Alliance.

All I'm saying is why even bother killing characters off if they're just coming back. In fact, why even have a damn storyline if you aren't going to give a crap about it enough to carry on with it through the next games. (And I don't mean brining back Liu Kang as a zombie. That's just an excuse to bring the S.O.B. back.)


Amen to that. I completely agree with you. Liu Kang must stay dead because if everyone always resurrect when they want, the word death has no meaning anymore.

Btw? is this liu kang spirit/zombie confirmed?
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Shang_heihachi
04/18/2004 07:35 PM (UTC)
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I completely agree that killiung Liu and now bringing him back as a zombie and a ghost is completely retarded. It lowered my respect for MK alot when I found that out...just let someone stay dead for once.
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lg1982
04/19/2004 03:09 AM (UTC)
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Why all of a sudden do they bring Liu Kang back as a ghost/zombie; why not Cage or someone else that died come back like that. Hopefully this will eliminate the stupid sounds he makes doing his moves or getting beat up.
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04/19/2004 04:02 AM (UTC)
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lg1982 Wrote:
Why all of a sudden do they bring Liu Kang back as a ghost/zombie; why not Cage or someone else that died come back like that. Hopefully this will eliminate the stupid sounds he makes doing his moves or getting beat up.


Is that all you people care about? Liu Kang has been a top tier character in all Mortal Kombat games, except for Mortal Kombat trilogy. He's a fan favorite. He had one of the five coolest fatalities in Mortal Kombat history. Yet you all hate him because he MAKES NOISES. That's idiotic.
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luckylooser34
04/19/2004 04:09 AM (UTC)
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well killing or not midway has there reasons.Cage
should stay until the end.He is the best American
fighter in the game.Unless this Ben person is here to take his place.If so hopefully he will have Cages moves an weapons.Karate/Jeet Kune Do, an nunchakus.Totaly Bruce's style.You gotta love it.Long Live Johnny Cage.
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04/19/2004 04:10 AM (UTC)
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Dext3r Wrote:
Cage never died. It's explained in his DA bio.
I'm not happy that Liu's back, but let's give him a chance. A good story might justify his return. And who knows... what if the new Liu is just an instrument for deception? As we know there's gonna be a series of twists and turns in Deception. I wouldn't be surprised, if the DK uses a Liu Kang look-alike to achieve his goals. It might even explain the ridiculous zombie thing.

Johnny Cage has died before. In case you forgot his tomestone was in MK3/UMK. In MKT it said something about the "heavens" being in disarray since Khan had invaded Earth and cause his soul to come back to Earth and fight along side Earth warriors. Back to the thread . Only 1 person has died and come back in MK. The only person that has died in MK has been Johnny Cage. As we know Liu Kang in MK6 is said to be back, but from what I've heard back as a zombie and spirt and to me that doesn't count as coming back like Cage has. Kang won't be alive at least

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04/19/2004 02:07 PM (UTC)
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Mileena came back from the dead.
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Dext3r
04/19/2004 02:23 PM (UTC)
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"Johnny Cage has died before."

Nope, you missed the update. It was explained in MKDA that his previous stories were untrue. He was supposed to die IN HIS MOVIES, but refused to take part in these films. It was a nice way to eradicate his repetitive resurrection stories. I wouldn't take the tombstones seriously, if I were you. Unless you believe Boon's dead as well.

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04/19/2004 03:39 PM (UTC)
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well i think lui kang and johnny cage need to gow
and many others chould follow them

a littel list

lui kang,johnny cage,goro,jax,kitana,smoke,sektor,cyrax,shinnok,hsu hoa,bo rai sho,ermac,shang tsung...}
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Deadboy
04/19/2004 05:10 PM (UTC)
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Dext3r, you're missing the point. The point is that Cage DID die. It was at the intro of MK3, and not an ending, so therefore official, hence why there had to be resurrection stories to be eradicated.

It doesn't matter how Cage's return was finally explained, that's all fluff. What does matter is that they officially killed Cage and then brought him back.
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Dext3r
04/19/2004 05:23 PM (UTC)
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I'm leaning towards the more flexible interpretation. That's all. I'm closing my eyes for his story in MK3 to aid the natural flow of the entire story. What I want is a story without factual conflicts and in order to achieve this I'm taking Cage's most recent story as a fact - he died only in his movies.
It doesn't mean you're not right, but your interpretation leaves conflicts and plot holes.
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luckylooser34
04/20/2004 04:43 AM (UTC)
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Cage isnt the only one returned.Baraka was killed
off by Kung Lao.Split in half to be exact.But Shinnok gained control over his soul an grants him new life.Now it dosent matter if they come back as long as it makes money an people like it.
Long Live Johnny Cage.
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red_dragon
04/20/2004 10:44 AM (UTC)
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Baraka was never sliced in half by Kung Lao. That was something made up (by a players guide I think) as a theory to why he looked like he did in MKG.
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04/20/2004 11:13 AM (UTC)
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You see, this is stupid shit. Now you know why Raiden needs to die. He probably had something to do with this. Raiden REALLY needs to die, and so does Sonya, Liu Kang, Kano, and Scorpion either needs to die or get a new story. Really sucks that they decided to bring him back. Die and stay dead for God's sake.
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cookoo
04/20/2004 12:53 PM (UTC)
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I just think they need to organise the characters' appearences better so that they don't over stay there welcome.
If a character appears in a game, it should be that each appearence a character makes in the game, contributes something very special to the game and to improve the views fans have on them

Nobody get killed but transformed(with few exceptions - mokap, stryker, and obivious bad additions get killed for good.

That is y MKD is gonna be the best cause I get to see some fighters that I like in real action and know what others are really about such as tanya

if no improvement from a character, we should celebrate them getting killed off be a villan's to the villians credit
it is a shame some of these so called villans, bad azzes don't have blood on there hands.

mk story sux, mk rulez!
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red_dragon
04/20/2004 02:39 PM (UTC)
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This is MK, there's gonna be casualties along the way, so I think a couple of characters need to die here and there, and those that do for the most part stay dead. Whether it's someone like Hsu Hao, who just seems to have been made for one small role, or a guy like Liu, a hero who grew very stale and his death enhanced the storyline.

MK casualties. Characters at this point CONFIRMED in intros and ending to be dead. Bear in mind that these may be changed/overwritten in future.

Classic Sub Zero
Liu Kang (even IF he returns, he still counts as dead)
Goro
Sheeva
Motaro
Rain
Shinnok
Jarek
Hsu Hao (nothing to contradict his death, and not many fans like him)
Shao Kahn
Kintaro

Characters who MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be dead. These are fighters who we've heard nothing about.

Kai (as Raiden has the staff in MKDA)
Stryker (dead or alive, too many people hate him for a comeback)
Reiko (even the MK team hate him, so I think we've seen the last of him)
Jade (supposed to have fought Reptile, we don't find out the result of this)
Kano (going by MKDA endings so far)
Shang Tsung (same as Kano)
Moloch (sub bosses generally don't survive)
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