Probably because Goro just has a bigger part in the MK story. But yeah, Kintaro's the best sub-boss. Hardest too. Who knows what his fate will be.

I agree.. goro is a pussy compared to kinataro and goro has been rotting in the grave... so let that kintaro come back and whip some ass already

Kinataro is a million times better then goro.

I do believe I read an interview with boon saying that he always felt Kintaro was unfinished and he was boon's least favorite subboss. I think that is why we aren't seeing him aywhere. The only thing I don't understand is that if Kintaro was unfinished, how nasty did they want to make him and why doesn't he use this opportunity to make him better?

I don't necessarily agree.

While yes, I'll admit Kintaro was a whole lot harder than Goro I also am a firm believer in First Impressions.

I think its safe to say that Goro was the first TYPE of charactor to become popular. So Goro will always be remembered over Kintaro because he was second coming.

Secondly, Goro's stage presence is better than Kintaro's. Goro was very simplistic but at the same time very memerable. He was difficult, but I also believe he had such a presence that the player would actually enjoy fighting him. Kintaro however, was WAY over done. He looked more like a genetic accident with a tiger. That and I laughed at him when he roared to the gods. Nope that didn't gain any respect points with me. Oh and Goro had intelligence, Kintaro was a raving lunatic.

Thirdly, Kintaro just doesn't have a story like Goro does. Kintaro will forever be known as the beserker bruiser. Face it he's just hired meat for the fight before Shao Kahn.

I agree. Kintaro is the best sub-boss in any MK game to date. I can't understand why Ed&Company don't give Kintaro another chance. We have been waiting for Baraka and Millena comeback, if I name only few, since MK2. It's time for Kintaro to gets his revange. Imagine how cool would he look with MKD engine. He could work as team with goro...
Even Motaro should come back...

I'd prefer to see Kintaro. Although both are dead and neither is really needed in the story. A new Shokan should come into the game. All of the previous ones have died. Goro was however the only one with a big role and he was rather important storywise. Bringing him back would be another interesting twist, but it would mean another boring ressurection. I hope he remains dead.

lol I have bitter hatred for Montaro

mk4 goro was a nightmare for me,I resorted to a chain of raiden torpedos/scorpion spears & got flawless victory, pity he didn't have a fatality.

seriously, he was twice the size of everyone else.

But Kintaro wasn't confirmed dead as far as I know. It was mentioned in a strategy guide or something and never confirmed to be canon.
I'd like to see Kintaro return. He has a lot potential and I think it'd be awesome if he was playable.

LoganMK Wrote: I don't necessarily agree. While yes, I'll admit Kintaro was a whole lot harder than Goro I also am a firm believer in First Impressions. I think its safe to say that Goro was the first TYPE of charactor to become popular. So Goro will always be remembered over Kintaro because he was second coming. Secondly, Goro's stage presence is better than Kintaro's. Goro was very simplistic but at the same time very memerable. He was difficult, but I also believe he had such a presence that the player would actually enjoy fighting him. Kintaro however, was WAY over done. He looked more like a genetic accident with a tiger. That and I laughed at him when he roared to the gods. Nope that didn't gain any respect points with me. Oh and Goro had intelligence, Kintaro was a raving lunatic. Thirdly, Kintaro just doesn't have a story like Goro does. Kintaro will forever be known as the beserker bruiser. Face it he's just hired meat for the fight before Shao Kahn.

All of the reasons you don't like Kintaro is the reasons people do. A couple of things:

Roared to the gods? It was just a cocky taunt.

Kintaro was the general Kahn's army before being killed off by Raiden. Not some hired thug.

Why Goro over Kintaro?

Boon et al think Goro is a "fan favourite" and throw him in to please the crowds. I think it's completely dumb that he's back. But well, since the DK seems to possess da mad rezurexxion skillz, anything has become possible.

Kintaro was more interesting: revenge motive, frustration for being second to Goro, etc etc. Sheeva was more interesting as well: betrayed loyalty, good at heart but evil looking, etc etc. What has Goro going forh him? Oh yeah, that shabby alliance with Edenia, explained in Kung Lao's MK Gold ending where he looks as though he's blind. Uh. What was Goro even *doing* in MK4?

Well, as you may have guessed, I'm not a Goro-fan at all :).

Rant over :).

VQ

Logically, it seems strange that Goro is back anywhere since he was killed, put in a coffin, and laid to rest in a pool of lava

I'm guessing they're putting people in the prison who were important to MK history eg Jade being in when she's only playable in Decepetion.

Kintaro wasn't in as many games as Goro as well as not being as important storywise, a prince to a general, a former MK champion for 10 generations running to one debuting in MK in Shao Kahn's Outworld tournament.

Wanderer Wrote: All of the reasons you don't like Kintaro is the reasons people do. A couple of things: Roared to the gods? It was just a cocky taunt. Kintaro was the general Kahn's army before being killed off by Raiden. Not some hired thug.

lol I'm sorry, thats just a horrible story to me. I'm a huge fan of charactor depth, and Kintaro just didn't have it. So thats why I am able to favor Goro over him. I can empathize with Goro's story and brush off Kintaro's....but everyone is not like me.

And I know it was a taunt bub, that was just the short stack name I gave it, but anyway yeah it wasn't cool.

Goro anyday. Besides I believe in the MK/Goro Comic books Goro and Kintaro fight, and even in a weakened state, Goro pound Kintaro into a pulp. That Goro was not only stronger than Kintaro he was also smarter, and used more martial arts fighting as opposed to just brute attack.

(based on comic books)

Kintaro was way better than that moron Goro. I also agree that Kintaro was the general of Kahn's Army, I wish they would bring Kintaro back

I'm just confused... so are Liu Kang and Goro the same person now because theyre both coming back to life? I'm just kidding...

I prefer Goro over Kintaro. I think he has an aura that Kintaro just doesn't have. Goro's story is just so much better too. He was the king of Mortal Kombat til Liu Kang beat him, he even 'finished' the legendary Kung Lao. He was the first, and as others have said, he is smarter and a more accompished martial artist than brute force Kintaro. Goro needs to be properly done in in 3D (even though he was kick-ass in MK4) and I'm glad to see him return, but he has always been a big fave of mine.

Anyway, are you guys 100% sure it's Goro? He looks too small imo, and could just be a shokan model from Konquest mode. Remember, if you get to go to the Shokan realm I'm sure there are many normal Shokans walking around. Kitana's MKDA ending had other Shokan lowering Goro's casket into the lava, it could just be one of those...

LoganMK Wrote: I don't necessarily agree. While yes, I'll admit Kintaro was a whole lot harder than Goro I also am a firm believer in First Impressions. I think its safe to say that Goro was the first TYPE of charactor to become popular. So Goro will always be remembered over Kintaro because he was second coming. Secondly, Goro's stage presence is better than Kintaro's. Goro was very simplistic but at the same time very memerable. He was difficult, but I also believe he had such a presence that the player would actually enjoy fighting him. Kintaro however, was WAY over done. He looked more like a genetic accident with a tiger. That and I laughed at him when he roared to the gods. Nope that didn't gain any respect points with me. Oh and Goro had intelligence, Kintaro was a raving lunatic. Thirdly, Kintaro just doesn't have a story like Goro does. Kintaro will forever be known as the beserker bruiser. Face it he's just hired meat for the fight before Shao Kahn.

Stage presence? They're not on a stage, they're on screen, in a video game. The entire stage presence thing...is also just YOUR perception...it's not absolute fact. Kintaro was not some mindless animal. What gave you that impression? because he roared in the midst of fights? Goro didn't do anything stupid?


People don't get this...but Goro's storyline was dried up and dead. There was 0 reason to have Goro in MK 4. That was just laziness on Midways part. Also...Goro was killed...that is canon.

I don't mind seeing people get ressurected if they have an interesting storyline...but Goro lacks that...so what's the point?

Kintaro was a badass, he has that over Goro...and the fact that he hasn't been seen or heard of, since Mortal Kombat 2, makes him mysterious, and people will like to find out more about his story...hey...it could still suck, but we know that it HAS to be better than Goros, and it won't horribly violate any canon...since we all don't know for SURE, that Kintaro was killed...and even if he was...it's not like they've abused his character before (i.e. killing him, bringing him back, killing him again, ressurecting him again).

I like both Shokans, but I gotta go with the original, Goro. I think it would be cool if Kitana's ending really happened and Goro became good now, and they had him fight with a still evil Kintaro. What are you thoughts people?

Geez, who bent you over and gave it to you. You act like I insulted your mother.

Your right nothing I've said is absolute, and it is MY, as you so put it, perception. However as I recall the point of this thread and message boards in general is for me to post MY thoughts, MY theories, and MY ideas. In addition I try to do the civil thing and take into consideration OTHER peoples perceptions as well.

So I say that to say this: get over yourself.

BTW: I never said I didn't like Kintaro, I just favor Goro over him.

This thread is becomin a bit heated...

Why Goro over Kintaro? Hard to answer cos I dont think Boon and co sat there and thought "which one shall we put in?"

They're 2 differnt characters, so they have some similiarities, but why would anyone CHOOSE which 2 have included?

But to follow the flow of this thread, my personal fave is Goro. Although I fear that havin him in Deception will spoil his "legendary" status he has in the MK universe.

As someone said, let him stay dead and let him just be a memory. He's better off that way, not in a bad way, but if theres a small risk his persona could be damaged, I aint up for it.

Hope that makes sense

I would'nt count Kintaro out yet....in the bios they said they saw two shokans so its a possiblity that Kintaro could be back...Goro and Kintaro are my favorites....King Gorbak awaits!!!!

whoops, I think I accidently started a riot...

Boon needs to just start letting the dead stay dead, and if he's not sure about future plans w/ a charecter, then dont kill them, just have them disappear. With Goro tho, how do you even ressurect him, he doesnt have a body, lowering someone into lava usually takes care of that.