I think Kintaro should remain dead. He was a challenging sub-boss, but I think Goro is more of an icon in the MK universe.

stealthmode32 Wrote: Boon needs to just start letting the dead stay dead.

Actually, the opposite is true. We need to stop making a big deal about it everytime they bring back someone. They did it for a reason, after all.

Learn these words and learn them well, "Mortal Kombat is not about death, it is about life."

It all reduces to 1 thing: Goro slept with the producers... while Kintaro decided to keep his integrity

Kintaro was never confirmed to have been killed... Goro is dead, his "in-depth" story, even has and "in-depth" death scene...

And on the dead guy topic... For once I would also like to see Shao Kahn as a playable charecter... He also has never been confirmed dead, just got his ass beat...

I'll be extremely happy when people stop disregarding certain characters (Kintaro and Rain immediately come to mind) because they currently have a weak story. Are you people that do that just so ignorant that you don't understand that they will GET A NEW AND UPDATED STORY IF THEY ARE IN THE GAME!!! If you didn't want to include characters who had weak stories in future games then I'm afraid Kitana and Mileena would've never made it passed MK2. What was their stories? One was a purple clad female ninja assassin and the other was a blue clad female ninja assassin......okay, so? Please for the love of the MK Universe's sanity stop doing this.

As for who I favor between the two male shokan...I have to say Kintaro. While I do think Goro means so much more to MK and is more closely associated to MK than Kintaro, it is time characters that die stay dead. All this bringing back to life stuff makes Boon and company sound desperate. Yes, Kintaro does lack depth character-wise. Guess what? THAT WOULD ALL CHANGE IF THEY INCLUDED HIM IN THE GAME AS MORE THAN JUST A CAMEO APPEARANCE!!!

Then again, Goro was in MK4.....

zexisstryfe Wrote: I do believe I read an interview with boon saying that he always felt Kintaro was unfinished and he was boon's least favorite subboss. I think that is why we aren't seeing him aywhere. The only thing I don't understand is that if Kintaro was unfinished, how nasty did they want to make him and why doesn't he use this opportunity to make him better?

Does it bother anyone else that Boon seems to favor characters like Goro and Bo Rai Cho despite the fans? Obviously Deception is going out to the loyal fanbase with Mileena and Ermac and that, but I wish he'd stop doing things to make himself happy and make the fans happy.

stealthmode32 Wrote: Kintaro was never confirmed to have been killed... Goro is dead, his "in-depth" story, even has and "in-depth" death scene... And on the dead guy topic... For once I would also like to see Shao Kahn as a playable charecter... He also has never been confirmed dead, just got his ass beat...

I read in a magazine that Kintaro was killed by Raiden.

>>I'll be extremely happy when people stop disregarding certain characters (Kintaro and Rain immediately come to mind) because they currently have a weak story<<

I agree with that 100%, IMO my favorites have always been based apon charecter design and moves, the story helps, but Im not gonna be picking charecters because they have good stories...

That reason is why I will always hate Bo Rai Cho... In my Dave Chapelle voice: I HATE HIM! Weak design, his story shouldve been saved for someone like Shinjiko (sp?) or a charecter with a better design...

I prefer Kintoro over Goro!

LoganMK Wrote: I don't necessarily agree. While yes, I'll admit Kintaro was a whole lot harder than Goro I also am a firm believer in First Impressions. I think its safe to say that Goro was the first TYPE of charactor to become popular. So Goro will always be remembered over Kintaro because he was second coming. Secondly, Goro's stage presence is better than Kintaro's. Goro was very simplistic but at the same time very memerable. He was difficult, but I also believe he had such a presence that the player would actually enjoy fighting him. Kintaro however, was WAY over done. He looked more like a genetic accident with a tiger. That and I laughed at him when he roared to the gods. Nope that didn't gain any respect points with me. Oh and Goro had intelligence, Kintaro was a raving lunatic. Thirdly, Kintaro just doesn't have a story like Goro does. Kintaro will forever be known as the beserker bruiser. Face it he's just hired meat for the fight before Shao Kahn.

I agree completely. I feel that Kintaro is to Goro as Jarek is to Kano: a modification of an original, and a classic. Granted, Kintaro as a new sub-boss made more sense to the plot in MK2, but Goro is a far more iconic character. I wasn't a fan of Kintaro's tiger stripes either.

well goro and kintaro are like the same big, fat, strong, and four arms just one is a prince and i dont know much about kintaro

LoganMK Wrote: Geez, who bent you over and gave it to you. You act like I insulted your mother. Your right nothing I've said is absolute, and it is MY, as you so put it, perception. However as I recall the point of this thread and message boards in general is for me to post MY thoughts, MY theories, and MY ideas. In addition I try to do the civil thing and take into consideration OTHER peoples perceptions as well. So I say that to say this: get over yourself. BTW: I never said I didn't like Kintaro, I just favor Goro over him.

Who bent me over? LOL...we're resulting to jokes about being bent over, because I questioned why you would say Goro was intelligent, but Kintaro was not? I was simply looking for you to give a response, that indicated WHAT transpired in these games, that gave you the impression that Goro was very smart...and that Kintaro was a bumbling fool?

Another thing, I didn't insult you....and you run to your right to defend your opinion, and all that stuff that everyone here already knows...meanwhile, I didn't insult you, or do anything REMOTELY like that, I merely asked what grounds you had to determine that Goro was smart, and Kintaro wasn't?


That's just making an assumption, not really an opinion.

KINTARO OWNZ =D

I agree with my fellow brazilian.

I think its because Goro was the first shokan, and he got in more involved than Kintaro in Mortal Kombat. Anyway, Kintaro AND Goro were killed (Kintaro on the bridge by Raiden, and Goro died in his tent after being attacked by Noob Saibot)... I just dont get it. BUT: Maybe Kitana's ending never happened, so maybe Goro's alive.. and its not canon that Kintaro was killed.

My opinion: Kintaro rules, Goro is second after him...... Sheeva is better than Goro IMO. lol

I'd say Goro because of his history in Mortal Kombat, specifically, his match with Kungo Lao. Kung Lao wasn't a push over, I'm sure and it would have taked a powerfull warrior to beat him. Since Kintaro had no such pedegree, I'm not sure that he'd be better than for MKD.


GD

ShangTsungNiceGuy Wrote: Who bent me over? LOL...we're resulting to jokes about being bent over, because I questioned why you would say Goro was intelligent, but Kintaro was not? I was simply looking for you to give a response, that indicated WHAT transpired in these games, that gave you the impression that Goro was very smart...and that Kintaro was a bumbling fool? Another thing, I didn't insult you....and you run to your right to defend your opinion, and all that stuff that everyone here already knows...meanwhile, I didn't insult you, or do anything REMOTELY like that, I merely asked what grounds you had to determine that Goro was smart, and Kintaro wasn't? That's just making an assumption, not really an opinion.

Heh heh I was being stupid. I say that to anyone that gets bent out of shape, or at least gives me that perception. And if you weren't intending that perception then I apologize.

And the truth of the matter is to me although I do like MK its still a video game to me, so I really cannot present anything more than a simple perspective as to why I feel the way I do about certain charactors.

Now to defend my perspective, Goro carried a legacy Kintaro carried a title of General, but Kintaro was never known for that. And I think you can agree with me that Kintaro is mainly known for whipping our asses and then roaring to the gods afterward. Some people like him for that and I expressed thats perfectly fine with me. However I don't feel the same way.

The Point: Because of what I've stated I feel that Kintaro has mainly been a function in the game rather than a charactor that has meaning.

I can respect that Logan, but I just think that Goros peak, in terms of storyline, has passed by, and isn't coming back anytime soon.


All we have of Kintaro are perceptions...he's a brute force, who still has SOME potential for a storyline, because he was never really given one...

I like the Shokan race in this series...and I'd like to see one...I just think Kintaro has been slightly underused...and I just don't see much justificiation (From this point on anyway) for them to use Goro, instead of Kintaro...I think he is much more deserving of the spotlight at this point, rather than Goro.


He was supposedly close to Goro, and was looking to avenge Goros death, in MK2.

Maybe they can play on that...since Goro has died (yes, again)...at the hands of Noob Saibot (we're led to believe anyway)...I just think he has the potential to be an interesting character, where as Goro's potential, has already been tapped, and tapped again, and tapped dry.

Kintaro has enormous potential because no one's bothered to develope him after MK2.

I've already posted this Kintaro story I made plenty of times, but I think it shows that Kintaro can be more than Goro's monkey boy if he's given a chance.

Kintaro- For hundreds of years, the Prince Goro was the greatest Shokan warrior. It was the mighty Goro who defeated Earth's champion in Mortal Kombat and it would be Goro who would lead the armies of Outworld to battle. And the Shokan warrior Kintaro was always seen as second best. However, this all came to an end when Goro was defeated and thought to have been killed by Liu Kang. When word spread that the emperor was seeking a replacement for Goro to represent Outworld in a new tournament, Kintaro eagerly stepped foward. Outwardly, Kintaro sought to avenge Goro and restore the Shokan honor. Secretly, he wished to prove that he was the greatest Shokan and that he, not Goro, should have been general of Outworld's armies. This never came to pass however. Shao Kahn's tournament was merely a ruse to distract the Earth warriors and Earth's defender Raiden. In truth, it would be the Centaur Motaro who would lead Outworld to battle, and Kintaro was just a pawn. After Shao Kahn's invasion was defeated, an infuriated Kintaro intended to murder Motaro, believing this act would restore Shokan honor and prove he was the best. Unfortunatly, the Shokan woman Sheeva had beaten him to it during an attempt to assassinate Shao Kahn and Goro himself had returned and later agreed to sign a treaty with the Centaurs and Princess Kitana. Apalled that the Shokan would agree to peace, Kintaro abandoned the Kuatan lands and wandered aimlessly. Until he was found by the Dragon King. The Dragon King offered Kintaro a place in his army where he'd be at last able to prove his worth. Kintaro gladly accepted the Dragon King's offer and now stands ready to finally step out of Goro's shadow and prove that he is the strongest Shokan of them all.

Now if Ed Boon and his staff would ever read any of these emails then Kintaro would have a chance....Great story on Kintaro you should be on Ed boon team.....King Gorbak awaits......