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Sub-Zero_7th
08/19/2004 11:29 PM (UTC)
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A new angle with the projectiles? C'mon. How would you want it then?
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MoodyShooter
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08/19/2004 11:32 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
A new angle with the projectiles? C'mon. How would you want it then?


Perhaps some limited homing? Not full blown heat-seeking but allow the projectile to at least move slightly to give it some purpose. That's a simple fix. You could also instead have wide radius projectiles that don't have a lot of distance but cover a lot of area for example.
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psyclobex
08/19/2004 11:43 PM (UTC)
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It would be nice if they focused more on the fighting engine.Unstead of adding tetris and chess furious
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08/20/2004 12:27 AM (UTC)
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I feel what everyone here is saying, but it's easier said than done. I've thought about what FLSTYLE has said millions of times, but that's gonna have to wait till MK7 or maybe even MK8. They've put so many fun little mini-games and focused alot more on the "fun factor" of the whole game rather than re-building the fighting engine. Which is basically what they would have to do to have it the way you like it, I think they're just taking it a step at a time. Slowly making MK a great franchise again..and I think it started with MK:DA. So just enjoy Deception or wait till future sequels, I think that would be the best thing for people that don't like it the way it is. And you gotta understand, NO ONE will ever be satisfied with anything...much less a video game.

peace'
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Draconus
08/20/2004 01:10 AM (UTC)
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Konsider the following, my fellow kombatants: Tournament mode is now no longer the main mode of Mortal Kombat. Because it has grown so much, KONQUEST is now the main game mode, with tournament-style fights appearing inside Konquest mode, having become a mini-game by komparison. Think about how huge and diverse Konquest is and be happy. MK is now an adventure fighting game. Cheers.
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Pretentious
08/20/2004 01:13 AM (UTC)
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At it's core though, Mortal Kombat is a fighting game. That's what the fans consider it, that's what the press considers it, that's what the mainstream considers it, etc. In a fighting game, the engine should be of paramount importance with all the extra stuff like a Konquest mode or a Chess mode or what have you added as just that, extra stuff.
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08/20/2004 01:18 AM (UTC)
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AberzX Wrote:
They didn't spend much time on it because it was already a success.


yea in ur mind..
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08/20/2004 01:35 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, when those vids where first released I noticed that shit, too.

I'd like to take part in the glorious arguments over MK gameplay, or lack there of. I am drained, however. I think I'm going to just sit back and enjoy a few laughs. When D is released, and that which we preached is no longer theory, I'll be posting up mad shit. Mad shit that was known, proclaimed, and preached with foresight a year and a half even before I actually played it.
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08/20/2004 01:35 AM (UTC)
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FLSTYLE Wrote:

erm no this was pointing out a glitch, the thread title was merely his conclusion by finding the glitch, that's not gameplay.

If you really want to know here's a list of things I'd like to see in Deception:-

1. A genuine juggling system, where you can to more than 2 pop-ups once in the air.
It doesn't have to be something special, maybe just 4 or 5 hits while they're airbourne before they fall.

2. A new reversal, one that doesn't stop the fluidness of fights, have a better hit detection as sometimes a fist would "slide" into the reversal because of bad animation.

3. Make the combo breakers harder to pull off, so it doesn't end up you try a combo, have it broken, i try a combo, have it broken etc.

4. more creativity in combos, so I don't have to keep checking back in the pause menu to see what the "dial-a-combo" system will allow me to do.

5. Make a new angle on projectiles, they are still being used as if the game is 2D, projectiles in a 3D game + side-stepping = useless

6. make more than 10% of the movelist useful, as there's always one combo that can do everything, fast, powerful, stuns and has a quick reaction time so that there's no need to use the others.

That'll do me niecly until MK7


I like some of your ideas.. Especially the reversal idea. Imagine a punch coming in and instead of hitting R1 or whatever you have to do like Forward+X+R1 and your character steps in and actually REVERSES the move into a move of their own (a judo-esque throw or a knee to the stomach or something) instead of the persons arm hitting the other person and then it says "REVERSAL" and no one can move for a few seconds.. that IS pretty dumb. Also I see your point with the juggling this. I don't understand what you mean about the projectiles but you've made a good point. *thumbs up*
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YingYeung
08/20/2004 01:57 AM (UTC)
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My thoughts exactly ! And MK fighting system is my fav anyways gringringrin
noktis Wrote:
I have no complaints about the fighting system. If I wanted Mortal Kombat to play like Tekken or Soul Calibur 2 then I'd play Tekken or Soul Calibur 2 not Mortal Kombat

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08/20/2004 03:14 AM (UTC)
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You seriously do not buy a game due to whether a character hits the floor perfectly or not, do you?!


No. However, when I buy a game that's a sequel to another game, I sure as fuck don't want to see the exact same glitches that were in the game before it. Call me crazy, but I'd like to think glitches should be fixed. The simple fact they can't even make a fighting system without knowing how to program a character to hit the ground correctly speaks volumes.

TYo the guy who said I should keep my mouth shut until I play it, I don't have to smile. See, there's a thing called videos that I can go off of and comment on. Where can i comment you ask? Get this, at a Mortal Kombat forum smile. I'm sorry this topic doesn't have anything to do with if Kitana has her clit pierced or not. But it is quite important if you think about it smile. That being the same glitches in MKDA are in this game. As us smart people have been saying for ages now. No need to be insecure about it. See the light as Versatile would say smile.

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08/20/2004 03:24 AM (UTC)
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I don't have glitches on my MK:DA guess I got lucky..
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08/20/2004 04:09 AM (UTC)
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ROTFL@YOU Wrote:
I don't have glitches on my MK:DA guess I got lucky..
What?

lol

Ahhhh man. I'm going to stop myself this time... I'll hold back.

Man, will this game come out already!

And Menthol: Check out the strat guide for the SF: AC (3rd strike specificly). This shit is QUALITY stuff. Written by some of the best.
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DirtyStankButter
08/20/2004 05:35 AM (UTC)
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Whoooooooo same fight different thread. We are missing the point. Menthol just pointed out a glitch. Thats all A tiny little glitch he never said anything about Tekken or Soul cal2. Hey guys check this out Attack, attack, attack. He just was trying to show you all that there is room to improve and by doing that the next game will be forced to update the fighting engine. Yes there is alot of people who like the fighting system, Yes there is alot who don't. Stick to the topic at hand. Menthol I saw that glitch as well and though I am a little dis appointed it is a small glitch that should be fixed. Every game has a little glitch or two. You should have seen the demo's running at E3 they were chucked full of glitches. And for the love of God every copy of MKDA has glitches. There is not one copy out there that has less glitches, unless you have been playing the PAL versions. They were cleaned up a bit but still had there fair share.

And no they won't stop showing you whats wrong with the game. If it was not for the people that you say HATE on the game it would never improve it would just be another MKDA with extra fatalities. If you never know whats wrong with a game then you will never fix it. Good find Menthol. I hope they fix it, or fix it in the next game. Besides look at the names of the people here who complain about the problems, I think you will find that they will be the ones who chop up the game and find out who is the greatest cheese master then use them to win. Maybe after you guys play them a few 1000 times online and find out that beating them with a character you like is really hard. Because they know whats wrong and can use it against you, your tune will change. If the system is broke, then playing online will not be fun. Menthol and FLstyle most of the time I was bashing you in the past it feels weird to be sticking up for you guys. But the funny part of all this is I can't wait to play you guys online. Why so I can learn a thing or two. Laters DSB
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08/20/2004 05:36 AM (UTC)
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Yes, you have the magical copy of MKDA that has no glitches. Only one in existance. You're a lucky guy.

I've been reading about the SFAC guide. It does sound tight from the impressions at SRK. All guides should be made that way.

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Satyagraha
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08/20/2004 06:05 AM (UTC)
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DSB representing! Using paragraphs, too. grin
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DirtyStankButter
08/20/2004 07:30 AM (UTC)
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Lol yep. hey guys everyone is not always going to see the point. Know one here will see eye to eye. It's going to be a battle anytime these subjects come up. Look at your visits compared to some of the others. There is alot of people jumping on the band waggon, and trying to get there 2 cents in before the release date.

How many times has this kind of thread been started? How many times has there been someone to come along and yell and scream about something that has nothing to do with the subject at hand? Just a few more threads and there will be someone to say. Oh yea well I am better than you or I can beat you at this or that. And of course the Tekken and Street Fighter, Soul Cal2, VF, Bashing will start. Shit I used to do it just to get a rise.

I never remember reading about how we all hate MK. As a matter of fact I am sure that most of us will play. Everyone has the right to be here love or hate the game. Every Opinion is valid and needs to be read and understood it is how someone else feels. Nobody is telling anyone to not buy the game or to buy another game. Just pointing out things that THEY feel should be fixed or changed. Pop tart farts to everyone,Love peace and chicken grease. DSB
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08/20/2004 07:40 AM (UTC)
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Give it a rest, the guy was only pointing out a glitch he spotted.
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08/20/2004 02:01 PM (UTC)
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MENTHOL Wrote:

I'm sorry this topic doesn't have anything to do with if Kitana has her clit pierced or not. But it is quite important if you think about it...


Hell yeah it is, everyone knows about Kitana's clit ring grin
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