chan_ming Wrote: In case people have not noticed, I'm a woman, and I consider that to be an offensive sexist comment. If someone says "omg wom3n are so weak and stupid and they're wh0rez and sh1t!", is it not natural for me to take offense? The comment was directed to women as a whole. I understand if his words were provoked because he got hurt by a girl recently, however, that doesn't justify what he said. I just don't want to come onto MKO and read something like what he said again.

True that....if you dont like someone or something...just keep it to yourself

That was fucked up what you said psychlobex

really fucked up

A lot of people conplain they look too fat or too ugly, but that shouldnt stop them from trying to be a nice person or stop them from trying to find someone. Dieting is a nice way to go, no soda(if you must, diet) and lots of water would help. Exercising is a must too. It is impoertant to stay healthy. But for me, im actually looking to gain weight, simply because I eat like a cow but I have a high metabolism, so it all goes to waste, and to make it worse i work out and burn like 3 pounds a week..i am 120 pounds, so im looking to increase that by 15 pounds or something. I dunno. Im fast though. Really fast.

Not all women are the same. Some are shallow, some are charming and some are just plain whores. Now of course not every single women is like that but each girl is beautiful in their own way whether be it inner or outer beauty. If a guy's lucky he'll come across both . My point is that just because a girl turns you down it doesn't give anybody the right to call them filthy whores and such. Now women sholud also stop saying things like "it's not you, it's me","Ur pretty in ur own way"etc etc when they're turning down a guy. Maybe they're trying to be nice but if u try to tell the guy what's wrong with him then he MIGHT work at it and improve his appearance and self-esteem. Of course it might backfire and he might fell bad but chances are that after he forgets the incident he'll think "I'll show her!" and start to improve.A girl telling a guy what's wrong with him is a good motivational source for a guy to improve in so many ways. Eventually it helps everybody out.

Now to help Thamuz's problem. I was born thin but over the years I gained lots of weight. It wasn't until last year that I dedicated to improve my body. Girls in my high school are very hot, a lot talk to me because they say I'm charming and have a cute smile. . That got me thinking, "hey if I'm fat and charming and the girls talk to me, then what would happen if I went for rock-hard bod". I started dieting, working out, sacrificing and guess what? It Worked! . Now whenever I sit in my classes I'm sorrounded by girls looking at me and smiling and blushing. I started at 5'6 and 240 at age 15 now I'm 5'7 and 160 at age 16. And I'm not bony thin, I may sound like a show-off but I'm built(sorry ). Thamuz, u should try to lose weight but if u don't want to then that's cool . As long as ur not morbidly obese then that's fine. U should be patient and eventually somebody will come for u. I just gave u my example to show u that if u go through one year of hard work,pain and sacrifice u get happiness for the rest of ur life. Now that I'm healthy I feel pretty awesome when playing video games and spending time on the internet. I'm saying this because these are the kinda things u can experience.

Thamuz, u should do what u think is best. And eventually if u think that the decision is the best one then u'll eventually succeed. It's kinda like picking between the easy way or the hard way.

Me being latino helped me alot too hehe.... orale man!
But regardless of ur ethnic u should do what u think is best: the fast and hard way or the slow and easy way?

KingKabal88 Wrote: Not all women are the same. Some are shallow, some are charming and some are just plain whores. Now of course not every single women is like that but each girl is beautiful in their own way whether be it inner or outer beauty. If a guy's lucky he'll come across both . My point is that just because a girl turns you down it doesn't give anybody the right to call them filthy whores and such. Now women sholud also stop saying things like "it's not you, it's me","Ur pretty in ur own way"etc etc when they're turning down a guy. Maybe they're trying to be nice but if u try to tell the guy what's wrong with him then he MIGHT work at it and improve his appearance and self-esteem. Of course it might backfire and he might fell bad but chances are that after he forgets the incident he'll think "I'll show her!" and start to improve.A girl telling a guy what's wrong with him is a good motivational source for a guy to improve in so many ways. Eventually it helps everybody out. Now to help Thamuz's problem. I was born thin but over the years I gained lots of weight. It wasn't until last year that I dedicated to improve my body. Girls in my high school are very hot, a lot talk to me because they say I'm charming and have a cute smile. . That got me thinking, "hey if I'm fat and charming and the girls talk to me, then what would happen if I went for rock-hard bod". I started dieting, working out, sacrificing and guess what? It Worked! . Now whenever I sit in my classes I'm sorrounded by girls looking at me and smiling and blushing. I started at 5'6 and 240 at age 15 now I'm 5'7 and 160 at age 16. And I'm not bony thin, I may sound like a show-off but I'm built(sorry ). Thamuz, u should try to lose weight but if u don't want to then that's cool . As long as ur not morbidly obese then that's fine. U should be patient and eventually somebody will come for u. I just gave u my example to show u that if u go through one year of hard work,pain and sacrifice u get happiness for the rest of ur life. Now that I'm healthy I feel pretty awesome when playing video games and spending time on the internet. I'm saying this because these are the kinda things u can experience. Thamuz, u should do what u think is best. And eventually if u think that the decision is the best one then u'll eventually succeed. It's kinda like picking between the easy way or the hard way. Me being latino helped me alot too hehe.... orale man! But regardless of ur ethnic u should do what u think is best: the fast and hard way or the slow and easy way?

Very, very well put. No one could have said it better.

chan_ming Wrote: KingKabal88 Wrote: Not all women are the same. Some are shallow, some are charming and some are just plain whores. Now of course not every single women is like that but each girl is beautiful in their own way whether be it inner or outer beauty. If a guy's lucky he'll come across both . My point is that just because a girl turns you down it doesn't give anybody the right to call them filthy whores and such. Now women sholud also stop saying things like "it's not you, it's me","Ur pretty in ur own way"etc etc when they're turning down a guy. Maybe they're trying to be nice but if u try to tell the guy what's wrong with him then he MIGHT work at it and improve his appearance and self-esteem. Of course it might backfire and he might fell bad but chances are that after he forgets the incident he'll think "I'll show her!" and start to improve.A girl telling a guy what's wrong with him is a good motivational source for a guy to improve in so many ways. Eventually it helps everybody out. Now to help Thamuz's problem. I was born thin but over the years I gained lots of weight. It wasn't until last year that I dedicated to improve my body. Girls in my high school are very hot, a lot talk to me because they say I'm charming and have a cute smile. . That got me thinking, "hey if I'm fat and charming and the girls talk to me, then what would happen if I went for rock-hard bod". I started dieting, working out, sacrificing and guess what? It Worked! . Now whenever I sit in my classes I'm sorrounded by girls looking at me and smiling and blushing. I started at 5'6 and 240 at age 15 now I'm 5'7 and 160 at age 16. And I'm not bony thin, I may sound like a show-off but I'm built(sorry ). Thamuz, u should try to lose weight but if u don't want to then that's cool . As long as ur not morbidly obese then that's fine. U should be patient and eventually somebody will come for u. I just gave u my example to show u that if u go through one year of hard work,pain and sacrifice u get happiness for the rest of ur life. Now that I'm healthy I feel pretty awesome when playing video games and spending time on the internet. I'm saying this because these are the kinda things u can experience. Thamuz, u should do what u think is best. And eventually if u think that the decision is the best one then u'll eventually succeed. It's kinda like picking between the easy way or the hard way. Me being latino helped me alot too hehe.... orale man! But regardless of ur ethnic u should do what u think is best: the fast and hard way or the slow and easy way? Very, very well put. No one could have said it better.

I write to impress, chica.

What most guys have to learn when they're dealing with women is to not take rejection personally. "How the fuck is rejection not personal?!!!" you ask? Well, look at it like this. When a woman rejects you, 9 times out of 10 she's doing so simply because she doesn't feel any attraction towards you and doesn't want to lead you on just to make you feel better. Most women don't reject a guy to try to hurt him or make him feel bad.

Another thing about women (and this relates more to the weight theme at the beginning of the thread) is that they are attracted to looks, but not in the same way guys are. Women look at different things. While a guy might be looking at her breasts, her ass, her legs, etc., a woman is looking at a man's eyes, his hair, the way he's dressed. Don't get me wrong, she's also paying attention to the way a guy is built and his height and some of the thing we guys look at, but for women as a whole, that is secondary to a guys total appearance. An overweight guy can attract just as many women as some buffed guy can if he's got the right attitude, dresses the right way, and knows how to approach women. A guy should take pride in his appearance when he's trying to hook up with a woman, you just have to remember that looks and appearance can mean different things from a man's perspective as opposed to a woman's perspective. If you're a guy who is overwieght, there is nothing wrong with trying to slim down a bit to improve your health and appearance, but you shouldn't let that extra bulk stop you from approaching someone you want to talk to. If shes says no to any of your advances, chances are she would've said no no matter what you looked like.

†deadlysilence† Wrote: psyclobex Wrote: Woman are conviving TRAMPS there always saying im looking for somebody funny somebody with a great personalty BULLSHIT WHORE there as shallow as guys they just pretend to be all innocent.But on the bright side there stupid and weak and cry more then a baby with shit in its diapers. dude are you gay or sumthin? why is every body sayin gurls are shallow? i mean look at the guys, alls they want is a peice of ass. you think guys will give a fat gurl or ugly gurl a second look? i doubt it, im just sayin guys can be just as bad...im 17 and female, sure i like sexy hot ripped guys, but thats not all im lookin for, i mean if i get to know a not so hot guy, and hes a great person maybe sumthin will happen... but to ur kinda question Thamuz i just think lose weight for your self and not the gurls, sooner or later the right one will come to you, and she wont care wat you look like.

Excuse me, but i have nothing against thick girls at all, infact i prefer that over someone skinny like a wire. But i dont know if girls do...

I dunno, and its other stuff not just the fat thing, i dont think im good boyfriend material.

One of the best posts ever. Read this over, his rationality is right on. We could all learn a lot from this dedication to ones own self.

KingKabal88 Wrote: Now to help Thamuz's problem. I was born thin but over the years I gained lots of weight. It wasn't until last year that I dedicated to improve my body. Girls in my high school are very hot, a lot talk to me because they say I'm charming and have a cute smile. . That got me thinking, "hey if I'm fat and charming and the girls talk to me, then what would happen if I went for rock-hard bod". I started dieting, working out, sacrificing and guess what? It Worked! . Now whenever I sit in my classes I'm sorrounded by girls looking at me and smiling and blushing. I started at 5'6 and 240 at age 15 now I'm 5'7 and 160 at age 16. And I'm not bony thin, I may sound like a show-off but I'm built(sorry ). Thamuz, u should try to lose weight but if u don't want to then that's cool . As long as ur not morbidly obese then that's fine. U should be patient and eventually somebody will come for u. I just gave u my example to show u that if u go through one year of hard work,pain and sacrifice u get happiness for the rest of ur life. Now that I'm healthy I feel pretty awesome when playing video games and spending time on the internet. I'm saying this because these are the kinda things u can experience.

secondgen Wrote: Women look at different things. While a guy might be looking at her breasts, her ass, her legs, etc., a woman is looking at a man's eyes, his hair, the way he's dressed. Don't get me wrong, she's also paying attention to the way a guy is built and his height and some of the thing we guys look at, but for women as a whole, that is secondary to a guys total appearance. An overweight guy can attract just as many women as some buffed guy can if he's got the right attitude, dresses the right way, and knows how to approach women. A guy should take pride in his appearance when he's trying to hook up with a woman, you just have to remember that looks and appearance can mean different things from a man's perspective as opposed to a woman's perspective. If you're a guy who is overwieght, there is nothing wrong with trying to slim down a bit to improve your health and appearance, but you shouldn't let that extra bulk stop you from approaching someone you want to talk to. If shes says no to any of your advances, chances are she would've said no no matter what you looked like.

Yep. Take this for example. If the hottest guy in the world was standing in front of me staring at my chest, and I tell him to look at my face, and he just laughs and then looks at my butt, I'm going to just walk away. Is it personal? No. You have to approach women right, first of all. If you do everything just fine and act civil towards a woman and they still reject you, it's nothing personal. Unless the girl is like "Oh my god, you freak, get your ugly ***** self away from me!" Then you know she's nothing but a snobbish bitch.

secondgen Wrote: What most guys have to learn when they're dealing with women is to not take rejection personally. "How the fuck is rejection not personal?!!!" you ask? Well, look at it like this. When a woman rejects you, 9 times out of 10 she's doing so simply because she doesn't feel any attraction towards you and doesn't want to lead you on just to make you feel better. Most women don't reject a guy to try to hurt him or make him feel bad. Another thing about women (and this relates more to the weight theme at the beginning of the thread) is that they are attracted to looks, but not in the same way guys are. Women look at different things. While a guy might be looking at her breasts, her ass, her legs, etc., a woman is looking at a man's eyes, his hair, the way he's dressed. Don't get me wrong, she's also paying attention to the way a guy is built and his height and some of the thing we guys look at, but for women as a whole, that is secondary to a guys total appearance. An overweight guy can attract just as many women as some buffed guy can if he's got the right attitude, dresses the right way, and knows how to approach women. A guy should take pride in his appearance when he's trying to hook up with a woman, you just have to remember that looks and appearance can mean different things from a man's perspective as opposed to a woman's perspective. If you're a guy who is overwieght, there is nothing wrong with trying to slim down a bit to improve your health and appearance, but you shouldn't let that extra bulk stop you from approaching someone you want to talk to. If shes says no to any of your advances, chances are she would've said no no matter what you looked like.

U do make a good point about having positive attitude but the majority of overwieght guys have extremely low self-esteem and are shy. It's really hard for a overweight guy to get a girl beceause chances are they've never talked to a girl in their whole life. Teenage years are the worse and it's really hard for fat guys to develop such skills. One thing I developed while overwieght was a sense of humour and it helped me a lot. Most fat guys, if they have a social life, will have a huge sense of humour.(and when I mean social life I don't mean online Dungeon and Dragon games or Final Fantasy Online or whatever it's called.) So u gain an important feature while fat, a sense of humour, the majority of girls dig guys with a sense a humour so now slim down a bit and u'll have them falling for u every time u talk to them.

Don't get me wrong, I love video games but I don't spend my WHOLE day playing them and I don't have dreams about saving a princess from a dragon and eventually making out with a pixalated girl.

chan_ming Wrote: In case people have not noticed, I'm a woman, and I consider that to be an offensive sexist comment.

Yes, I have noticed you're a woman, and I agree that what psyclobex said was sexist and offensive. But if a girl said something about all men being shallow, stupid pigs or something, it wouldn't bother me because I know I'm not a shallow, stupid pig, but I know that many men are. But the point I was trying to make is, when we look at something that someone said or did that was obviously wrong, we can either talk about how horrible an offense it was, or we can think about why it was said or done. In the long run, the latter accomplishes a lot more.

xcarnagex Wrote: But if a girl said something about all men being shallow, stupid pigs or something, it wouldn't bother me because I know I'm not a shallow, stupid pig, but I know that many men are.

I said all I needed in my posts before this one, and I think I made my point clear. Everyone's got their opinions on it, but I say we just drop it.

Well in high school I had the opposite problem I was short... like five foot in the ninth grade... I'm like five' five or six now and I'm 20... but here's the thing... most people are shallow... I've gone out with on really fat chick and a model(after high school) and really both were very similar in personality... one girl said she wouldn't date me because I was short... shallow... anyway guys and girls on both sides are shallow for the most part... and all the girls I've dated (except the current) were bi-polar psycho bitches... period... but the point is believe in yourself and ask yourself... are you being shallow as the girls who won't date you? What is their physical appearance and are you not giving others a chance and being a hypocrite? Anyway, later

chan_ming Wrote: xcarnagex Wrote: But if a girl said something about all men being shallow, stupid pigs or something, it wouldn't bother me because I know I'm not a shallow, stupid pig, but I know that many men are. I said all I needed in my posts before this one, and I think I made my point clear. Everyone's got their opinions on it, but I say we just drop it.

Agreed. We all know there are guys who are shallow pigs but not the entire male population is, same goes with the females but eventually they'll get their dues later on in life(they're gonna get screwed,and not necessarily in a good way, in other words.) Stop these sex wars and concetrate more on helping Thamuz's problem.

being overweight myself i would feel much more comfortable with a lad thats overweight. some girls dont find it a problem.
however when the roles are reversed it becomes a different story.

jade2004 Wrote: being overweight myself i would feel much more comfortable with a lad thats overweight. some girls dont find it a problem. however when the roles are reversed it becomes a different story.

Whatever floats ur boat. If ur comfortable with the way u look then u should be happy if not then slim down a bit.

SubScorpTile Wrote: Go to subway.

Dude- Lay off. Every time I see a post of yours, it's negative. Learn to help people and please refrain from making stupid comments that don't help at all.

Frikandel Wrote: I dissagree with you on that. I'm not looking for just a piece of ass, and if a girl is over weight doesn't make that much of a differance to me. I try to look at her face and try to capture feelings at that moment. Sure it's nice to have the perfect body, but mine isn't perfect either. Not every guy is an asshole, but it's really hard to convince a girl of that

im just sayin ALOT of guys are interested in just gettin a girl in bed. im not sayin all, im just sayin alot. but im sure ur one of the nice ones though

psyclobex Wrote: Ok im gay just because i told it like it is.Geez dont take it personal i wasnt talking to you directly god.Im just sick of liars at least some woman should have the curtesy to tell you the truth instead of saying its on the inside that counts please.The point im making i just wish more people where honest.Its a shallow world out there both m and f its kinda of sad but where all guilty on of it rejection is which leads a persons soul into insanity.

its kinda hard when you say not to take it personal when it was directed to all women as you stated, i am part of that ALL you were referring to right? but anyways, sorry about the gay comment, wat i meant to say was you may of had some girl problems that made you feel the way you do, its cool, im not mad, my reaction was kinda like "wo, did that guy just say that"

†deadlysilence† Wrote: Frikandel Wrote: I dissagree with you on that. I'm not looking for just a piece of ass, and if a girl is over weight doesn't make that much of a differance to me. I try to look at her face and try to capture feelings at that moment. Sure it's nice to have the perfect body, but mine isn't perfect either. Not every guy is an asshole, but it's really hard to convince a girl of that im just sayin ALOT of guys are interested in just gettin a girl in bed. im not sayin all, im just sayin alot. but im sure ur one of the nice ones though psyclobex Wrote: Ok im gay just because i told it like it is.Geez dont take it personal i wasnt talking to you directly god.Im just sick of liars at least some woman should have the curtesy to tell you the truth instead of saying its on the inside that counts please.The point im making i just wish more people where honest.Its a shallow world out there both m and f its kinda of sad but where all guilty on of it rejection is which leads a persons soul into insanity. its kinda hard when you say not to take it personal when it was directed to all women as you stated, i am part of that ALL you were referring to right? but anyways, sorry about the gay comment, wat i meant to say was you may of had some girl problems that made you feel the way you do, its cool, im not mad, my reaction was kinda like "wo, did that guy just say that"

See, DeadySilence and I are females, so naturally, we took offense in that quote directed towards all females and got a bit on the offensive side.

Thanx a lot I need help with my marajuana problem too....the munchies. Well, im about 15 years and weight 330. A lot of the time I eat cause of the munchies.

i dont get girls cuz they say that im stupid

Thamuz Wrote: Thanx a lot I need help with my marajuana problem too....the munchies. Well, im about 15 years and weight 330. A lot of the time I eat cause of the munchies.

Try eating those new Special K bars. That's what I eat for breakfast and whenever I have the munchies. They're fat free so they should help u a lot.

hmm...ill try that

Thamuz Wrote: hmm...ill try that

U do that. Here, I'll give u some tips:

-Try avoiding sweets at all times.

-If ur adicted to soda then go for diet soda and then finally end up with water.

-2 Litres of water daily can help u burn fat.

-Buy a step meter and try to walk 5000 steps a day then move on to 10,000.

-Spend at least 1 hour at the gym.

-Since u weigh 330 than try to go down to 300. And then take it by 30 pounds(270,240,219 etc etc)

-Record ur progress and weigh urself weekly.

-Don't let the taunts get to u. Chances are that ppl who make fun of u are ugly or have low-esteem themslves. Just imagine having a beauty queen by in ur arms while they have a stinky frog.

-U need to focus more on cardio excercises.

-Also don't push urself beyond ur own limit, not only will u burn urself out but u will lose the will to continue.

-Try going to the gym every 2 days.

-Taking multi-vitamins helps. This way u can avoid burgers and McDonaldsand still get the protein.

-Protein shakes also help.

-Not to mention Subway. My personal fav: Sweet Onion Chicken Teriyaki, it only has like 500 carbs(that's a fraction of half a pound.)

-U don't need to go all healthy but try avoiding red meat.

-After u reach ur ideal weight(I'd say 180,160)then u should start building muscles.


These tips are proven to work by leading nutrionists and pharmacists in North America. I followed them and it got me where I am: a kick-ass six pack. Don't get me wrong I still eat fast food but only once or twice a month. I reached my goal in less than an year, if u put ur mind to it u can reach it too bro. But this requires hard-work and sacrifice. I'm sorry that that's all the help I can give u but that should be enough to egg u on.



P.S.When feeling like quitting just imagine urself getting laid by a Halle Berry or a Torrie Wilson and that should give u a huge adrenaline rush for u to continue.