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06/15/2004 03:17 AM (UTC)
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I will have to go with Buffy. Even though i liked Faith's personality better. Buffy The Vampire Slayer was an awesome show. I own Season 1-4.
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06/15/2004 03:36 AM (UTC)
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Faith owns all
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06/15/2004 07:23 AM (UTC)
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Kerry King....OOPS! Wrong "Slayer!" Damn those stupid tribal tattoos of his!

I say Faith.


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06/15/2004 07:24 AM (UTC)
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buterbals113085 Wrote:
I will have to go with Buffy. Even though i liked Faith's personality better. Buffy The Vampire Slayer was an awesome show. I own Season 1-4.


grin It WAS a great show. I own Seasons 1-5!
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06/15/2004 07:25 AM (UTC)
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LOL Glad to see yet another recognize that! grin
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06/15/2004 08:15 AM (UTC)
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Saying Faith won the fight in "This Years Girl" is very misleading. Faith lost on purpose, switched bodies, then knocked Buffy out(who was now in Faith's body). That isn't much of a win. Especially if you claim Buffy's win doesn't count because she used a weapon.


Experience and intelligence matter because often in fights the winner doesn't come down to who is strongest in a fist fight, but by using tools and their surroundings to their advantage. Buffy has shown far more resourcefulness than Faith and has much, much more experience in big fights against top tier beings like Glory and Adam. Buffy also shows a much bigger understanding of slayer power and battle tactics. She is also much more disciplined and trained. Buffy has been a slayer for 8 years and has beaten back some of the nastiest and most powerful beings ever, but Faith was called years later and was in a coma and in prison for much of that time.





Who would win in a fight between the scooby gang and Angel Investigatins though?
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06/15/2004 08:20 AM (UTC)
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Saying Faith won the fight in "This Years Girl" is very misleading. Faith lost on purpose, switched bodies, then knocked Buffy out(who was now in Faith's body). That isn't much of a win. Especially if you claim Buffy's win doesn't count because she used a weapon.


Experience and intelligence matter because often in fights the winner doesn't come down to who is strongest in a fist fight, but by using tools and their surroundings to their advantage. Buffy has shown far more resourcefulness than Faith and has much, much more experience in big fights against top tier beings like Glory and Adam. Buffy also shows a much bigger understanding of slayer power and battle tactics. She is also much more disciplined and trained. Buffy has been a slayer for 8 years and has beaten back some of the nastiest and most powerful beings ever, but Faith was called years later and was in a coma and in prison for much of that time.





Who would win in a fight between the scooby gang and Angel Investigatins though?


Well when I think about it in those terms...Then yeah I guess your right.

The Scoobies, most definitely! No doubt at all. wink
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06/15/2004 08:36 AM (UTC)
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I like the scoobies a lot more, but Angel generally has better fighters. Xander may be a good friend and be able to do research, but he couldn't do much against someone like Wes or Gunn.

Of course a big factor is what era we're talking about. Angel's crew lost Wes but has Spike & Illyria and Buffy got powerful allies like a bunch of new slayers and the mighty...Andrew.
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06/15/2004 08:52 AM (UTC)
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Anyanka Wrote:
I like the scoobies a lot more, but Angel generally has better fighters. Xander may be a good friend and be able to do research, but he couldn't do much against someone like Wes or Gunn.

Of course a big factor is what era we're talking about. Angel's crew lost Wes but has Spike & Illyria and Buffy got powerful allies like a bunch of new slayers and the mighty...Andrew.


LOL @ Andrew. Yeah, but don't forget the scoobies have thier ace in the hole, with the all powerful WILLOW! Though it's unlikely she could take on Illyria, she could definitely make short work of the others, regardless of fighting ablility.

P.S. Towards the end, I think that Xander's fighting ablility had improved quite a bit since the early years.
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06/15/2004 09:06 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, even with one eye he could still hold his own against some baddies.


Andrew is just awesome.
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06/15/2004 09:11 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, even with one eye he could still hold his own against some baddies.


Andrew is just awesome.


LOL, well if the Angel crew still had Cordy, Xander wouldn't be a problem at all, as Cordy could cut him down fast with a few well placed insults! wink

I think if you use the final cast members of each show...perhaps Angel would win because I think when all was said and done that fight would end up coming down to Willow and Illyria...and much as I love Will, Illyria would slaughter her.
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06/15/2004 09:15 AM (UTC)
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The problem with Will is that she is so reluctant to use her power to it's fullest.


Giles vs. Wes would be cool.
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06/15/2004 09:19 AM (UTC)
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Very true, though I think that seeing the rest of her friends cut down in battle would serve to make that handicap go away, and she'd put up a good fight, but still lose to the ancient demon.


Re: Giles Vs. Wes

Well that depends on Which Wes we're talking about: Are we talking Watcher Wes? Or Badass Wes? Though I think in either incarnation, Giles would own Wes. If it were "badass" Wes it would be one hell of a fight though. That's just me though.
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06/15/2004 09:41 AM (UTC)
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It's funny to think of how far Wes has come. Who would have EVER thought the dorky Wes in season 3 of Buffy would end up being an scruffy looking, brooding, gun toting badass?
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06/15/2004 09:43 AM (UTC)
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LMAO, certainly not I.

Here's one for ya:

Cordelia Vs. Anya...Though I can probably guess who you'd choose. wink Keep in mind though That Cordy was coming along nicely as fighter under Angel's teaching.
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06/15/2004 11:39 AM (UTC)
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There's a whole pile of cool match-ups you could get from those shows. How about these:

- Adam vs Magma Demon
- Bad-Ass Wes vs Principal Wood
- Gunn vs Riley
- Angelus vs the Groosalugg
- Connor vs Spike
- Jasmine vs Glory
- Skip vs Faith
- Kennedy vs Harmony
- Willow vs Dracula
- The Preacher vs S&M Demon from Wolfram & Hart's suburban holding dimension
- Illyria vs Uber Buffy (when she got the power of all the previous Slayers)
- Andrew vs Xander, Giles, Cordelia, Anya, Oz, Holtz, Gwen, Darla and RoboBuffy.

Or just a battle royale with every character that's ever been on either show. There's a movie right there.
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06/15/2004 09:16 PM (UTC)
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Some pretty sweet match ups here, nice job!


As for who I think would win:

- Adam vs Magma Demon - I say Adam takes this one.

- Bad-Ass Wes vs Principal Wood - Wes would Destroy Wood

- Gunn vs Riley - Kiss Riley goodbye!

- Angelus vs the Groosalugg - Hmmmm, I'll go with Angelus here, rather easy fight for him I'd say.

- Connor vs Spike - Connor is pretty tough, but in the end Spike would destroy him

- Jasmine vs Glory - I say Glory got this one hands down

- Skip vs Faith - sad Much as it pains me to say this, I'm sorry but Faith would go down...hard.

- Kennedy vs Harmony - Kennedy as a Slayer or Normal? You know what never mind I'd say Kennedy in either scenario.

- Willow vs Dracula - This would be a tough call for me to make, but I think Dracula could take her.

- The Preacher vs S&M Demon from Wolfram & Hart's suburban holding dimension - I'd say the Preacher here.

- Illyria vs Uber Buffy (when she got the power of all the previous Slayers) - Uber Buff, no contest.

- Andrew vs Xander, Giles, Cordelia, Anya, Oz, Holtz, Gwen, Darla and RoboBuffy. - wow All at once?! Poor Andrew, hehe, but I think Cordelia alone would send him running home to mommy, by hurting his feelings with one of her razor barbed, "I'm a BIG Bitch when I have to be" special insults.


How about:

Cordelia Vs. Harmony

Slayer Kennedy Vs. Vamp Willow

Badass Wes Vs. Wood

Giles Vs. Gun

Fred Vs. Andrew

Lorne Vs. Kathy (Buffy Psycho Demon Roomie from hell!)

Spike Vs. Faith

Xander Vs. Cordy

Anyanka (Demon form, not human) Vs. Wolf Oz
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06/15/2004 10:47 PM (UTC)
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First off, every time Buffy fought Faith faith had her ass handed to her.

Character-wise, Buffy is dull and I always thought she has been, where Faith is a unique spitfire. She'd kill.


And to add to the interesting matchups...

Anyanka vs. Halfrek

The Mayor vs. The Master

Willow vs. Angelus

Gunn vs. Xander vs. Riley vs. Oz

Darla vs. Drusilla

Adam vs. RoboBuffy

Kennedy vs. Tara

Cordelia vs. Lorne

Connor vs. Dawn
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06/15/2004 10:51 PM (UTC)
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Cordelia Vs. Harmony - - - Cordy!!!

Slayer Kennedy Vs. Vamp Willow - - - Vamp Willow, mostly because she just rules.

Badass Wes Vs. Wood - - - Wes

Giles Vs. Gunn - - - Gunn

Fred Vs. Andrew - - - Fred

Lorne Vs. Kathy (Buffy Psycho Demon Roomie from hell!) - - - Tie - - - Kathy would attack him with Cher's "Believe," Lorne would sing along, and they'd both die.

Spike Vs. Faith - - - Faith, because Spike tends to have his ass kicked a lot.

Xander Vs. Cordy - - - Pre- or post-demon? Well...Cordy either way.

Anyanka (Demon form, not human) Vs. Wolf Oz - - - Anyanka, but only if Willow wished her to.
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06/15/2004 11:13 PM (UTC)
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you_suck Wrote:
Cordelia Vs. Harmony - - - Cordy!!!

Slayer Kennedy Vs. Vamp Willow - - - Vamp Willow, mostly because she just rules.

Badass Wes Vs. Wood - - - Wes

Giles Vs. Gunn - - - Gunn

Fred Vs. Andrew - - - Fred

Lorne Vs. Kathy (Buffy Psycho Demon Roomie from hell!) - - - Tie - - - Kathy would attack him with Cher's "Believe," Lorne would sing along, and they'd both die.

Spike Vs. Faith - - - Faith, because Spike tends to have his ass kicked a lot.

Xander Vs. Cordy - - - Pre- or post-demon? Well...Cordy either way.

Anyanka (Demon form, not human) Vs. Wolf Oz - - - Anyanka, but only if Willow wished her to.


ROFLMAO @ Lorne and Kathy fight....You are probably right about that one!

Now for My take on your matches:

Anyanka vs. Halfrek - I think Halle takes this one, only because she has stated that she uses her powers more diversly while Anyanka pretty much sticks to Pissed off Females crying to have their no good boyfriends intestines ripped out..*shrugs*


The Mayor vs. The Master - I assume you mean the indestructable Mayor right before the Asscention(Sp?) ? If that's the case, the Mayor. Only because he could do nothiing to hurt the good Mayor.


Willow vs. Angelus - Willow, if she's in full badass witch mode and not scared to use her powers...if it's normal reluctant Will, kiss her ass goodbye.


Gunn vs. Xander vs. Riley vs. Oz - I think this fight would end up coming down to Gunn and Riley, then Gunn would proceed to kick the ever living crap out of Riley, snap his neck and then just walk away shaking his head.


Darla vs. Drusilla - This, IMO, would be a pretty decent fight to watch. Drusilla may be a bit...ok VERY insane, but she proved that when it counts she can be just as deadly as any vampire by taking out Kendra (and rather easily I might add, How the hell would a trained VAMPIRE SLAYER, fall for that "look into my eyes" bit?!) That being said, I say Darla takes this one, because she is deliciously ruthless, and very cunning.


Adam vs. RoboBuffy - Adam, because even the real Buffy couldn't so much as dent him until she was super-Mojo'd to do so. And I believe the real Buffy even at normal power, is stronger than the RoboBuff.


Kennedy vs. Tara - Kennedy, because Tara's even more reluctant to use Magic than Willow... Of course after this fight Will would get all Veiny again and then Kennedy would be a memory.


Cordelia vs. Lorne - Cordy all the way!

Connor vs. Dawn - wow are you kidding? LOL Dawn would be spanked so hard...it's scary to even think about it...no contest: Connor. (Who would later be brutally killed by Buffy)
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06/15/2004 11:29 PM (UTC)
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Looks: faith... she makes me salivate...

Skills: Buffy... she would rescue me, and not accidently stake me!
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06/15/2004 11:34 PM (UTC)
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Looks: faith... she makes me salivate...



Me too! Eliza Dushku = HOT! grin
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06/16/2004 02:27 AM (UTC)
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I think buffy will get her butt whipped by faith. Faith is better than buffy.
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06/16/2004 04:37 AM (UTC)
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Buffy would kick Faith's ass. Buffy not only beat Faith, she also kicked the shit out of Angel. And aside from Spike she is one of the only to do that. Remember Buffy has had a unique life from any other slayer and that is how she has managed.
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06/16/2004 06:03 AM (UTC)
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Can anyone tell me how cordelia died, I missed that Angel episode and still havent been able to see it yet. Thanks!
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