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04/06/2012 12:24 AM (UTC)
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Spaceman Wrote:
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Whether it's Stupid, Trashy, etc. doesn't really matter. Because in the end of the day:

Freedom of Speech > You


It kinda does matter tho in terms of how you want others to perceive you. Your free to say whatever you want but people will judge you a lot on the language you use. That's just kinda how our society works.

Not sure if the arguement ur goin with here really fits with what i said...confused


FUCK what people think about me or how they perceive me. This is exactly why people end up all depressed and shit, because they're so self-conscious when people tell them they're "Too Fat" or "Too Skinny" or a "disrespectful person". If people didn't give 2 fucks about how other people "perceive" them, Maybe this fucking world, would be a fucking better place.

Also i'm not saying that you should cuss everywhere you go, because there's obviously places where it's not okay to say them, but to limit my Freedom because certain people don't like it or because people will judge me? They can suck my penis.
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04/06/2012 12:31 AM (UTC)
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Edit: Whoops my mistake. -_-
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04/06/2012 01:29 AM (UTC)
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The greatest men in history were those who said "Fuck You" to social standards and expectations.
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04/06/2012 02:03 AM (UTC)
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I'm not sure why the Freedom of Speech rule is coming into play here. No one ever said we're trying to censor you by forcing you to stop swearing.

My point is trying to figure out if the word "fuck" is an overused word. Such as in this case right here: You fawking noob

Censorship is annoying, so is overusing something that gets tiresome to the ears.
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04/06/2012 03:20 AM (UTC)
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I never said you, or anyone for that matter, were trying to censor me/us. I just said that it doesn't matter that it's overused, trashy, vulgar, etc. because in the end of the day no one is able to do anything about it. Thus the Freedom of Speech rule coming into play.
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04/06/2012 03:54 AM (UTC)
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Krayzie_Killin_Joker Wrote:
I never said you, or anyone for that matter, were trying to censor me/us. I just said that it doesn't matter that it's overused, trashy, vulgar, etc. because in the end of the day no one is able to do anything about it. Thus the Freedom of Speech rule coming into play.


I was just saying "you" in general.

And technically I CAN do something about hushing people with their over-usage of vulgarly when it's not needed. I don't need to sit in my stop-motion class building my set hearing someone use the word "fuck" over nine times in one sentence. That's just downright annoying, and the class isn't that talkative any way.

But this freedom of speech thing, no offense, but that has to be one of the dumbest things to whip out in defense. "Oh I fucking got the fucking right to say whatever the fuck I want to. It's called the fucking freedom of speech rule that this fucking country has. Either you can fucking like it or fucking hate it."

Really? So I should be able to call out trashy words and be as vulgar as I can be... Despite that people would find that immorally wrong and completely hateful, still, I can whip that little saying out and no one can do anything about it... sleep

Yeah, I really hope you understand why freedom of speech actually came into this country, way, way back ago. Saying "fuck" isn't something that's necessarily something that freedom of speech is meant to be used for.
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04/06/2012 04:16 AM (UTC)
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Few words possess the power and versatility of "Fuck". Its easily one of my favorite words. I try to use it where its appropriate, and not in a public setting. Using it too often can make you seem less intelligent, but using it at the right time can really convey your statement.
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04/06/2012 04:48 AM (UTC)
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This thread is so epicly fucking ironic.


No really though, I do think that over using it can (in most instances) make you look a little stupid.

I curse A LOT when I play Gears of War. I just thought I should state this just in case Espio or Killswitch jump in and say "Hey, but remember that time when you were using fuck every other word?"

X and maybe a D

In all reality though, when I do curse a lot (Gears of War) I do try to mix em up a bit. More than just "fuck" ya know?
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04/06/2012 04:55 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
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I never said you, or anyone for that matter, were trying to censor me/us. I just said that it doesn't matter that it's overused, trashy, vulgar, etc. because in the end of the day no one is able to do anything about it. Thus the Freedom of Speech rule coming into play.


I was just saying "you" in general.

And technically I CAN do something about hushing people with their over-usage of vulgarly when it's not needed. I don't need to sit in my stop-motion class building my set hearing someone use the word "fuck" over nine times in one sentence. That's just downright annoying, and the class isn't that talkative any way.

But this freedom of speech thing, no offense, but that has to be one of the dumbest things to whip out in defense. "Oh I fucking got the fucking right to say whatever the fuck I want to. It's called the fucking freedom of speech rule that this fucking country has. Either you can fucking like it or fucking hate it."

Really? So I should be able to call out trashy words and be as vulgar as I can be... Despite that people would find that immorally wrong and completely hateful, still, I can whip that little saying out and no one can do anything about it... sleep

Yeah, I really hope you understand why freedom of speech actually came into this country, way, way back ago. Saying "fuck" isn't something that's necessarily something that freedom of speech is meant to be used for.


First: What part of "END OF THE DAY" do you not understand? Sure you can tell your classmates/anyone to shut up, I never said you can't do that, But is that really gonna stop the person from using the word for the rest of their life? Most likely not.

Second: I never said you (general) should go guns blazing and just cuss every other word whenever you want to, that's your choice to do so. There are obviously places where it's not tolerated/permitted such as: Elementary School, Job Interviews, etc. (Like I stated above.).

Third: I never said this country invited Freedom of Speech specifically for vulgarity.

Fourth: I'm sorry for not realizing that "you" was for people in general.

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04/06/2012 04:56 AM (UTC)
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I make sailors cry when I play Gears of War 3 and I hop on my mic.
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04/06/2012 05:04 AM (UTC)
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[Killswitch] Wrote:
I make sailors cry when I play Gears of War 3 and I hop on my mic.


Epic win is Epic. Lmao
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04/06/2012 05:06 AM (UTC)
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Krayzie_Killin_Joker Wrote:
[Killswitch] Wrote:
I make sailors cry when I play Gears of War 3 and I hop on my mic.


Epic win is Epic. Lmao


EPIC EPIC EPIC EPIC
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04/06/2012 05:08 AM (UTC)
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jack4813 Wrote:
Krayzie_Killin_Joker Wrote:
[Killswitch] Wrote:
I make sailors cry when I play Gears of War 3 and I hop on my mic.


Epic win is Epic. Lmao


EPIC EPIC EPIC EPIC


Epically Epic.
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04/06/2012 05:44 AM (UTC)
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Krayzie_Killin_Joker Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
Krayzie_Killin_Joker Wrote:
I never said you, or anyone for that matter, were trying to censor me/us. I just said that it doesn't matter that it's overused, trashy, vulgar, etc. because in the end of the day no one is able to do anything about it. Thus the Freedom of Speech rule coming into play.


I was just saying "you" in general.

And technically I CAN do something about hushing people with their over-usage of vulgarly when it's not needed. I don't need to sit in my stop-motion class building my set hearing someone use the word "fuck" over nine times in one sentence. That's just downright annoying, and the class isn't that talkative any way.

But this freedom of speech thing, no offense, but that has to be one of the dumbest things to whip out in defense. "Oh I fucking got the fucking right to say whatever the fuck I want to. It's called the fucking freedom of speech rule that this fucking country has. Either you can fucking like it or fucking hate it."

Really? So I should be able to call out trashy words and be as vulgar as I can be... Despite that people would find that immorally wrong and completely hateful, still, I can whip that little saying out and no one can do anything about it... sleep

Yeah, I really hope you understand why freedom of speech actually came into this country, way, way back ago. Saying "fuck" isn't something that's necessarily something that freedom of speech is meant to be used for.


First: What part of "END OF THE DAY" do you not understand? Sure you can tell your classmates/anyone to shut up, I never said you can't do that, But is that really gonna stop the person from using the word for the rest of their life? Most likely not.

Second: I never said you (general) should go guns blazing and just cuss every other word whenever you want to, that's your choice to do so. There are obviously places where it's not tolerated/permitted such as: Elementary School, Job Interviews, etc. (Like I stated above.).

Third: I never said this country invited Freedom of Speech specifically for vulgarity.

Fourth: I'm sorry for not realizing that "you" was for people in general.



When people stop throwing up the "freedom of speech" thing like it's a joke is when I'll understand it. Do I have the ability to permanently end one's over using of swear words? Absolutely not. But if it's a distraction that I'm not willing to tolerate, I'll put my foot down if no one else is going to do so. I never even wrote down that you wrote how freedom of speech was meant for vulgarity, I was hoping that you understood what the whole thing was about.

The way you keep making it look like, in my perspective, is that everyone is allowed to say whatever they want, wherever they want, and no measly little "please stop" is going to get me to understand that overusing a goddamn swear word is annoying towards others.

The thing is, this isn't even what I was trying to get out of the people who reads this thread. I was trying to see if they think hearing the word over and over and over again means that THAT specific word gets abused. I'm glad you understand that I was not even directing at you when I stated my post right after you posted about the whole freedom of speech thing. And I even showed an example of what the heck I was talking about... You missed it!

Since I doubt I'll be on this site until Monday, this is my last post til then. So, if you want to continue arguing, either send me an PM, or think I'll get back to you within minutes after your latest post. Thank you.
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04/06/2012 10:34 AM (UTC)
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Context makes a word vulgar. Fuck is normally an expletive, and when it used as such then why should we be offended by it? If that were the case, then we should be equally as offended when someone says "like" or "um". Sometimes saying fuck actually helps the flow of a sentence when spoken verbally.

Be offended when someone puts meaning behind it. Not in casual speech. If someone honestly stopped me in the middle of a casual conversation to get on my case about saying any "swear" word, I would tell them to shut the hell up and continue with what I was saying.

The video of the WoW kid that was posted is a moot point. On the internet, most people are fuck factories. Very seldom do you come across people who literally say fuck as much as that kid, and he was a spoiled child regardless.

Be it the word fuck, or kangaroo, or the consumption of drugs, or eating, or gasoline or anything, there is one simple rule to life.


Use it, don't abuse it.

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04/06/2012 10:55 PM (UTC)
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Ya'll should calm the fuck down and watch more George Carlin. You might actually learn something.
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04/07/2012 10:35 PM (UTC)
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Mojo6 Wrote:
Ya'll should calm the fuck down and watch more George Carlin. You might actually learn something.


Learn what? That he's one of the smartest comedians this country ever saw? His "fuck" use was never overused. It felt... right whenever he was saying it because he's not like using it like a freshmen in high school. When he said "mother fucker" it was just... right.
While most people spread the acronym myths "Filed Under/Found Using Carnal Knowledge", few people know why it's used as substitute for sex/violence.

"Fuck" actually means "violent shaking". In ancient times, before Jehovah[God] disabled magic, when you're mad at someone you'd grab n shake them, "Fuck" was a curse word meant to shake your soul.



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