Are you currently friends? What is your relationship now?

thetruth4 Wrote: Hey guys, i know there are some mature users on MKO and i was just wanderin if you could help me out wif this chic iv liked for like 2 years. She knows i like her and she broke up with her bf recently and wev been decent friends for a while, its just i dont wanna ask her out cuz i got this impression she likes older guys (her last bf was 19) who are hardcore n shit who smoke weed, can buy alcohol and dont wanna do anything with their lives ect. We are both the same age at 17 and we can have lots of fun sometimes but sometimes she sortof gives me the vibe not to get to close, then others its a little more affectionate n close. Im gettin a bit stressed since i like her so much and my brain tells me shes not interested in me. Any advice would be fucking sweet dudes...

thetruth4 Wrote: She knows i like her and she broke up with her bf recently and wev been decent friends for a while, its just i dont wanna ask her out cuz i got this impression she likes older guys (her last bf was 19) who are hardcore n shit who smoke weed, can buy alcohol and dont wanna do anything with their lives ect.

Yeah, unfortunately the majority of young women (around these parts anyway) seem to have a taste for gutter trash too. When I see these young women everywhere carrying around these babies without a father to care for them, emotionally or financially, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Or those guys who like to pretend that they are, in fact, inner-city ignorant ghetto blacks. They don't have to pretend the ignorant part, inside a relatively well-off (relative to a ghetto) suburb or backstreet neighborhood. These guys have no job, no taste, and no brains. Their girlfriends does all the hard work of supporting them, and probably tying their shoes and spoon-feeding them too.

News flash though: all young women naturally go for guys older than they are.

thetruth4 Wrote: We are both the same age at 17 and we can have lots of fun sometimes but sometimes she sortof gives me the vibe no to get to close, then others its a little more affectionate n close. Im gettin a bit stressed since i like her so much and my brain tells me shes not interested in me. Any advice would be fucking sweet dudes...

Do the "do not get close" vibes only occur or intensify when you're getting really close, or does it just happen randomly? If the former, your chances probably aren't good. If the latter, it could just be your imagination.

Either way, there's only one way to know for sure in situations like these: spill the beans.

Dude, you're a little too bitter.

foahchon Wrote: thetruth4 Wrote: She knows i like her and she broke up with her bf recently and wev been decent friends for a while, its just i dont wanna ask her out cuz i got this impression she likes older guys (her last bf was 19) who are hardcore n shit who smoke weed, can buy alcohol and dont wanna do anything with their lives ect. Yeah, unfortunately the majority of young women (around these parts anyway) seem to have a taste for gutter trash too. When I see these young women everywhere carrying around these babies without a father to care for them, emotionally or financially, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Or those guys who like to pretend that they are, in fact, inner-city ignorant ghetto blacks. They don't have to pretend the ignorant part, inside a relatively well-off (relative to a ghetto) suburb or backstreet neighborhood. These guys have no job, no taste, and no brains. Their girlfriends does all the hard work of supporting them, and probably tying their shoes and spoon-feeding them too. News flash though: all young women naturally go for guys older than they are. thetruth4 Wrote: We are both the same age at 17 and we can have lots of fun sometimes but sometimes she sortof gives me the vibe no to get to close, then others its a little more affectionate n close. Im gettin a bit stressed since i like her so much and my brain tells me shes not interested in me. Any advice would be fucking sweet dudes... Do the "do not get close" vibes only occur or intensify when you're getting really close, or does it just happen randomly? If the former, your chances probably aren't good. If the latter, it could just be your imagination. Either way, there's only one way to know for sure in situations like these: spill the beans.

born-again-vampire Wrote: Dude, you're a little too bitter.

How is that? I only told the truth.

spill the beans.

Yea i guess thats what it really does come down too. We are still good friends, no bitchyness at all, its just i keep coming to the conclusion in my head that asking her out could ruin the relationship becuase she likes older (suposedly mature) guys.

sorry 4 the fuck up of the thread.

Well, the truth is a fecade, an illusion...it is your opinion. I'm not saying it's never the case, but such generalaties are false.

foahchon Wrote: born-again-vampire Wrote: Dude, you're a little too bitter. How is that? I only told the truth.

but again...are you two friends already?

born-again-vampire Wrote: Well, the truth is a fecade, an illusion...it is your opinion. I'm not saying it's never the case, but such generalaties are false.

Well, technically, the truth is absolute, perception of it is a facade.

That said, the only general statement I made was that all young women naturally go for older guys, and I have yet to find an exception to this rule. It's not to say a young woman can't possibly go for a guy the same age as she, or a guy who's younger, but if faced with the choice of someone older or someone younger, without any other details, she's gonna choose the older.

All the other statements I made were about groups of people that all fit what I said about them, no exceptions, no generalizations.

Girl problems. I had them. But I have a girlfriend now, so it's all good. All I did was act nice, do polite things, open doors for people, shit like that. Eventually she came to me, and now we're together.

All I can say other than that is good luck.

No need to be rude but if you haven't found an exception to that rule, you haven't been looking.

And truth as a concept is about as loose as evil.

foahchon Wrote: born-again-vampire Wrote: Well, the truth is a fecade, an illusion...it is your opinion. I'm not saying it's never the case, but such generalaties are false. Well, technically, the truth is absolute, perception of it is a facade. That said, the only general statement I made was that all young women naturally go for older guys, and I have yet to find an exception to this rule. It's not to say a young woman can't possibly go for a guy the same age as she, or a guy who's younger, but if faced with the choice of someone older or someone younger, without any other details, she's gonna choose the older. All the other statements I made were about groups of people that all fit what I said about them, no exceptions, no generalizations.

Thats all very sweet, but to get back on topic...

If I was you I would ask her out, If you never ask you will never know the answer. Whats the worst thing that can happen? That she sais no? Than you are right back where you are now.

And if she's a real good friend she wont think any less of you.

Go for it, before someone else does it.
Good luck!

born-again-vampire Wrote: No need to be rude but if you haven't found an exception to that rule, you haven't been looking.

I'm not being rude.

Anyway, I've been out in the field, and I have never seen a young woman with a guy more than a year or two her junior, but I always, always see young women with men several years their senior.

As for truth being as loose a-concept as evil, that's a real zinger. Maybe you should tell that to all the philosophers, scholars, scientists, and physicists (among others). Apparently they're all deluding themselves and each other by trying to find the truth, or at least an accurate understanding of it.

I agree with Frikandel!

Well from my experiences you should just ask her out she might say yes or no however!!! if you 2 are really good friends and you 2 get together and break up it could turn into a bad situation and lose not only your girl but also a friend. I should know I was in a similar situation as you.

anyways good luck and hope for the best.

Forget about her because the day you touch her,her ex-boyfriend will cut your throat.

smooth as always

Siduu101 Wrote: Forget about her because the day you touch her,her ex-boyfriend will cut your throat.

Don't listen to him Thruth, if you read his posts you wil know why

Yeam man...just go for it...

What do you have to lose????

Besides...like the old saying goes...."There are plenty of other fish in the sea."

Yes, I would also say go for it. Talk about it.

After all, every good relationship begins (or ends) with The Conversation.

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BTW, as for women invariably choosing older guys, while this is true in general, my first gf was two years older than me, and my third one was one year older than me. So... kind of destroys the paradigm. My current girlfriend is two years younger than me, however.

If someone thinks too much of age (woman or man), it's usually a sign of immaturity :).

VQ

go for it!!! but dont be talkin to her all nervous and junk. be calm and be collected. but if you think in your head that you and her are just better off as friends, then stay friends. but if you feel that you and her can take whatever you and her got to a next level, then go for it. but this is all on you.
and by the way, age aint nothin but a number, unless you're on an R. Kelly type status.

Female girl problem?? Hah shouldn't that just go without saying?

Unless it was a man-girl aka Miriam! Ewww *shudders at the image of that*

There are so many of these topics, that there could almost be a dedicated discussion board related to girl troubles.

But anyway back on topic.
Recently broke up with her bf? Like how long ago?
Let her get over that first, that is if you want the relationship to last. If she gets into something right awya then it's just the rebound thing.

Is there much flirting going on? Do you SMS? If so then that is the way to go about it. It's certainly the easiest way. But some may say it is a ball-less way of doign it....so what? It does the job, and it's easy.

Take ur time, don't rush it. But don't go too slow as to let her slip away totally.

I'm not really mature but I'm talking throuhg nexperience:L

I liked this girl who in fact went out with older guys (they all like to do that..)

I never told her I liked her,... And I moved here!!!
Then I found out she hated like 99% of her boyfriends.. and SHE told me we should have gone out (by e-mail) THat SUX!!!

Ask her out!!!! If u told her u like her and she did not freak out, she'll accept ad she will be happy to go out again!

Seriously, this is the problem with guy frineds:
It's like a hell job interview!!!: Ur much more qualified, but they ussualy go with a person much less qualified, and then call you to tell u how much the guy they chose SUX!!!

U gotta let her know u want to go out and make sure she knows u inside out.. then it will be a happy ending

VainQueur Wrote: BTW, as for women invariably choosing older guys, while this is true in general, my first gf was two years older than me, and my third one was one year older than me. So... kind of destroys the paradigm.

Well, not really. The condition is a young woman (early 20's or younger-young) with a guy more than a year or two her junior, meaning a guy a year or two younger than she. My first g/f was a year and a half older than me as well, so I know women go for guys around their age, but not too much younger.

I agree that it does relate to immaturity though, which is why it is so prthisthingisdisabledent among young women. Not saying all young women are immature, but all young people, both kinds, are to some degree in my opinion.

foahchon Wrote: thetruth4 Wrote: She knows i like her and she broke up with her bf recently and wev been decent friends for a while, its just i dont wanna ask her out cuz i got this impression she likes older guys (her last bf was 19) who are hardcore n shit who smoke weed, can buy alcohol and dont wanna do anything with their lives ect. Yeah, unfortunately the majority of young women (around these parts anyway) seem to have a taste for gutter trash too. When I see these young women everywhere carrying around these babies without a father to care for them, emotionally or financially, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Or those guys who like to pretend that they are, in fact, inner-city ignorant ghetto blacks. They don't have to pretend the ignorant part, inside a relatively well-off (relative to a ghetto) suburb or backstreet neighborhood. These guys have no job, no taste, and no brains. Their girlfriends does all the hard work of supporting them, and probably tying their shoes and spoon-feeding them too. News flash though: all young women naturally go for guys older than they are. thetruth4 Wrote: We are both the same age at 17 and we can have lots of fun sometimes but sometimes she sortof gives me the vibe no to get to close, then others its a little more affectionate n close. Im gettin a bit stressed since i like her so much and my brain tells me shes not interested in me. Any advice would be fucking sweet dudes... Do the "do not get close" vibes only occur or intensify when you're getting really close, or does it just happen randomly? If the former, your chances probably aren't good. If the latter, it could just be your imagination. Either way, there's only one way to know for sure in situations like these: spill the beans.

the mere fact you're generalizing make you ignorant yourself

Thread maker:
a girl will look for an older tougher guy because of some issue involving protection you don't want her to come to harm, yeah? so tell her how you feel, that you would would unleash an entire cetaclysm should anyone ever disrespect her and she will run to you, because the front that those wiggas put out is really exceeding a feeling of protection be it real or fake...