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CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida (Reuters) - Seven months after NASA's rover Curiosity landed on Mars to assess if the planet most like Earth had the ingredients for life, scientists have their answer: Yes.
Analysis of a powder drilled from an ancient and once water-soaked rock at the rover's Gale Crater landing site show clays, sulfates and other minerals that are all key to life, the scientists told a news conference at NASA's headquarters on Tuesday.
The water that once flowed through the area, known as Yellowknife Bay, was likely drinkable, said Curiosity's lead scientist John Grotzinger, who is with the California Institute of Technology.
The analysis stopped short of a confirmation of organics, which are necessary for Earth-like life. But with 17 more months left in the rover's primary mission, scientists said they expect to hone in on that question.
The scientists, who spoke at the U.S. space agency's headquarters in Washington, also talked on a conference call with reporters based elsewhere.
While the $2.5 billion Curiosity mission is not a life-detection exploration, it is intended to find places where organics, if they exist, could have been preserved.
The rover touched down inside Gale Crater on August 6 to begin the two-year mission.
(Editing by Tom Brown and Christopher Wilson)
CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida (Reuters) - Seven months after NASA's rover Curiosity landed on Mars to assess if the planet most like Earth had the ingredients for life, scientists have their answer: Yes.
Analysis of a powder drilled from an ancient and once water-soaked rock at the rover's Gale Crater landing site show clays, sulfates and other minerals that are all key to life, the scientists told a news conference at NASA's headquarters on Tuesday.
The water that once flowed through the area, known as Yellowknife Bay, was likely drinkable, said Curiosity's lead scientist John Grotzinger, who is with the California Institute of Technology.
The analysis stopped short of a confirmation of organics, which are necessary for Earth-like life. But with 17 more months left in the rover's primary mission, scientists said they expect to hone in on that question.
The scientists, who spoke at the U.S. space agency's headquarters in Washington, also talked on a conference call with reporters based elsewhere.
While the $2.5 billion Curiosity mission is not a life-detection exploration, it is intended to find places where organics, if they exist, could have been preserved.
The rover touched down inside Gale Crater on August 6 to begin the two-year mission.
(Editing by Tom Brown and Christopher Wilson)


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all we need now is prothean ruins and mass relays
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all we need now is prothean ruins and mass relays
I make sure that the Crucible goes into the right hands, human's hands. Then we have open talks with the Council Species with the Crucible.
Of course if we do find the data in making A.I., we would make one and call her E.D.I.
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I make sure that the Crucible goes into the right hands, human's hands. Then we have open talks with the Council Species with the Crucible.
Of course if we do find the data in making A.I., we would make one and call her E.D.I.
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all we need now is prothean ruins and mass relays
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all we need now is prothean ruins and mass relays
I make sure that the Crucible goes into the right hands, human's hands. Then we have open talks with the Council Species with the Crucible.
Of course if we do find the data in making A.I., we would make one and call her E.D.I.
wile we are at it... id go nuts if we found a live prothean in a stasis pod :)


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TheGame100gunzAndClips Wrote:
wile we are at it... id go nuts if we found a live prothean in a stasis pod :)
DeathScepter Wrote:
I make sure that the Crucible goes into the right hands, human's hands. Then we have open talks with the Council Species with the Crucible.
Of course if we do find the data in making A.I., we would make one and call her E.D.I.
TheGame100gunzAndClips Wrote:
all we need now is prothean ruins and mass relays
DeathScepter Wrote:
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all we need now is prothean ruins and mass relays
I make sure that the Crucible goes into the right hands, human's hands. Then we have open talks with the Council Species with the Crucible.
Of course if we do find the data in making A.I., we would make one and call her E.D.I.
wile we are at it... id go nuts if we found a live prothean in a stasis pod :)
Study his genes, If he is willing to work with humans to get us ready to deal with other races, then we will help rebuild his species.
Think of a Joint Human/Prothean Empire or Federation.


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i do think liara is a lesbian
i do think liara is a lesbian
yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
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i do think liara is a lesbian
i do think liara is a lesbian
in the new dlc you can romance javik as fem shep seen here
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yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
i do think liara is a lesbian
i do think liara is a lesbian
yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
actually asari arent just lesbians. there culture is known to be involved with both sexes and other species


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TheGame100gunzAndClips Wrote:
actually asari arent just lesbians. there culture is known to be involved with both sexes and other species
DeathScepter Wrote:
yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
i do think liara is a lesbian
i do think liara is a lesbian
yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
actually asari arent just lesbians. there culture is known to be involved with both sexes and other species
Well it is the truth; Asari are monogender that breds through pathogenesis and biotics. Biologically they are females. So Ninja mime is telling the Truth from a certain point of view. If Shepard is a female and romance Liara, Then Liara is a lesbian.
In Asari Culture, they don't consider themselves Male or Female in the traditional ways that we think of Males and Females. For example, Liara's father and Aria are more masculine oriented Asaris but they are still biological females.
i do have some speculation on the Masculine and feminine with Asari culture.
If we find the achives on Mars, I am tempted to made an organization that would be interested in gathering technology and developing them for the defense of Humanity.
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DeathScepter Wrote:
Well it is the truth; Asari are monogender that breds through pathogenesis and biotics. Biologically they are females. So Ninja mime is telling the Truth from a certain point of view. If Shepard is a female and romance Liara, Then Liara is a lesbian.
In Asari Culture, they don't consider themselves Male or Female in the traditional ways that we think of Males and Females. For example, Liara's father and Aria are more masculine oriented Asaris but they are still biological females.
i do have some speculation on the Masculine and feminine with Asari culture.
If we find the achives on Mars, I am tempted to made an organization that would be interested in gathering technology and developing them for the defense of Humanity.
TheGame100gunzAndClips Wrote:
actually asari arent just lesbians. there culture is known to be involved with both sexes and other species
DeathScepter Wrote:
yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
i do think liara is a lesbian
i do think liara is a lesbian
yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
actually asari arent just lesbians. there culture is known to be involved with both sexes and other species
Well it is the truth; Asari are monogender that breds through pathogenesis and biotics. Biologically they are females. So Ninja mime is telling the Truth from a certain point of view. If Shepard is a female and romance Liara, Then Liara is a lesbian.
In Asari Culture, they don't consider themselves Male or Female in the traditional ways that we think of Males and Females. For example, Liara's father and Aria are more masculine oriented Asaris but they are still biological females.
i do have some speculation on the Masculine and feminine with Asari culture.
If we find the achives on Mars, I am tempted to made an organization that would be interested in gathering technology and developing them for the defense of Humanity.
hey as long as we dont end up indoctrinated with a voice saying i am the vanguard of your destruction than bring on the ruins and beacons :)


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TheGame100gunzAndClips Wrote:
hey as long as we dont end up indoctrinated with a voice saying i am the vanguard of your destruction than bring on the ruins and beacons :)
DeathScepter Wrote:
Well it is the truth; Asari are monogender that breds through pathogenesis and biotics. Biologically they are females. So Ninja mime is telling the Truth from a certain point of view. If Shepard is a female and romance Liara, Then Liara is a lesbian.
In Asari Culture, they don't consider themselves Male or Female in the traditional ways that we think of Males and Females. For example, Liara's father and Aria are more masculine oriented Asaris but they are still biological females.
i do have some speculation on the Masculine and feminine with Asari culture.
If we find the achives on Mars, I am tempted to made an organization that would be interested in gathering technology and developing them for the defense of Humanity.
TheGame100gunzAndClips Wrote:
actually asari arent just lesbians. there culture is known to be involved with both sexes and other species
DeathScepter Wrote:
yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
i do think liara is a lesbian
i do think liara is a lesbian
yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
actually asari arent just lesbians. there culture is known to be involved with both sexes and other species
Well it is the truth; Asari are monogender that breds through pathogenesis and biotics. Biologically they are females. So Ninja mime is telling the Truth from a certain point of view. If Shepard is a female and romance Liara, Then Liara is a lesbian.
In Asari Culture, they don't consider themselves Male or Female in the traditional ways that we think of Males and Females. For example, Liara's father and Aria are more masculine oriented Asaris but they are still biological females.
i do have some speculation on the Masculine and feminine with Asari culture.
If we find the achives on Mars, I am tempted to made an organization that would be interested in gathering technology and developing them for the defense of Humanity.
hey as long as we dont end up indoctrinated with a voice saying i am the vanguard of your destruction than bring on the ruins and beacons :)
Do you want to make an organization dedicated to stopping the Reapers and understand Indoctrination? Given if there were Reapers in this universe, why the not study Reaper Tech, inorder to stop them


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DeathScepter Wrote:
Do you want to make an organization dedicated to stopping the Reapers and understand Indoctrination? Given if there were Reapers in this universe, why the not study Reaper Tech, inorder to stop them
Do you want to make an organization dedicated to stopping the Reapers and understand Indoctrination? Given if there were Reapers in this universe, why the not study Reaper Tech, inorder to stop them
But you run the risk of getting indoctrinated by the reapers if you do that. This is especially true if you happen to be Martin Sheen.
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DeathScepter Wrote:
Do you want to make an organization dedicated to stopping the Reapers and understand Indoctrination? Given if there were Reapers in this universe, why the not study Reaper Tech, inorder to stop them
TheGame100gunzAndClips Wrote:
hey as long as we dont end up indoctrinated with a voice saying i am the vanguard of your destruction than bring on the ruins and beacons :)
DeathScepter Wrote:
Well it is the truth; Asari are monogender that breds through pathogenesis and biotics. Biologically they are females. So Ninja mime is telling the Truth from a certain point of view. If Shepard is a female and romance Liara, Then Liara is a lesbian.
In Asari Culture, they don't consider themselves Male or Female in the traditional ways that we think of Males and Females. For example, Liara's father and Aria are more masculine oriented Asaris but they are still biological females.
i do have some speculation on the Masculine and feminine with Asari culture.
If we find the achives on Mars, I am tempted to made an organization that would be interested in gathering technology and developing them for the defense of Humanity.
TheGame100gunzAndClips Wrote:
actually asari arent just lesbians. there culture is known to be involved with both sexes and other species
DeathScepter Wrote:
yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
i do think liara is a lesbian
i do think liara is a lesbian
yes she is a lesbian. very much so.
actually asari arent just lesbians. there culture is known to be involved with both sexes and other species
Well it is the truth; Asari are monogender that breds through pathogenesis and biotics. Biologically they are females. So Ninja mime is telling the Truth from a certain point of view. If Shepard is a female and romance Liara, Then Liara is a lesbian.
In Asari Culture, they don't consider themselves Male or Female in the traditional ways that we think of Males and Females. For example, Liara's father and Aria are more masculine oriented Asaris but they are still biological females.
i do have some speculation on the Masculine and feminine with Asari culture.
If we find the achives on Mars, I am tempted to made an organization that would be interested in gathering technology and developing them for the defense of Humanity.
hey as long as we dont end up indoctrinated with a voice saying i am the vanguard of your destruction than bring on the ruins and beacons :)
Do you want to make an organization dedicated to stopping the Reapers and understand Indoctrination? Given if there were Reapers in this universe, why the not study Reaper Tech, inorder to stop them
fuck that shit id rather be banging some asari dancers and have a krogan as my personal body guard


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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
But you run the risk of getting indoctrinated by the reapers if you do that. This is especially true if you happen to be Martin Sheen.
DeathScepter Wrote:
Do you want to make an organization dedicated to stopping the Reapers and understand Indoctrination? Given if there were Reapers in this universe, why the not study Reaper Tech, inorder to stop them
Do you want to make an organization dedicated to stopping the Reapers and understand Indoctrination? Given if there were Reapers in this universe, why the not study Reaper Tech, inorder to stop them
But you run the risk of getting indoctrinated by the reapers if you do that. This is especially true if you happen to be Martin Sheen.
There is always risk in studying the enemy. Protecting Humanity, you must study all thing to make Humanity a superpower. Even if the other alien races are honest with their intentions, Humanity needs to be strong. I would be damn if we get up like the Volus.
And to TheGame, if you join me, I will pay well so you can bang as many asari dancer and hire many krogan bodyguards given if you work for me.
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Mars Announcement Raises Question: What Is Life?
NASA officials announced March 12 that ancient Mars could have supported primitive life. But this begs the question: What exactly constitutes life?
Merriam-Webster.com defines life as "an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli and reproduction." But there's no single satisfactory definition of life.
"I think it is a mistake to try to define life, because we have only one example of life, familiar life on Earth, and we have reason to believe that this example may be unrepresentative of life in general," Carol Cleland, a philosopher of science at the University of Colorado, Boulder, told LiveScience in an email.
Defining life
Aristotle made the first attempt at a definition, describing life as something that grows, maintains itself and reproduces. But this definition would exclude mules, which are sterile, while including things like fire.
Calling life something that has a metabolism, the ability to take in energy to grow or move and excrete waste, is no good either; cars do this, for example.
In 1944, the physicist Erwin Schrödinger gave life a definition based on the second law of thermodynamics, which states that the entropy, or disorder, of a closed system increases over time. Schrödinger defined life as something that decreases or maintains its entropy. Yet this definition fails because it includes crystals, which resist entropy by forming highly structured lattices.
Trying to define life by its qualities is the wrong approach, Cleland said. As an example, she cites scientists' early attempts to define water in terms of properties like being wet, transparent and a good solvent. "We didn't 'define' water as H2O, but rather discovered, in the context of molecular theory, that it is a chemical substance composed mostly of H2O molecules," Cleland said.
Life on Earth is typically divided into two main groups: the cellular life forms, which include archaea, bacteria and eukarya (all the plants and animals), and non-cellular life forms, like viruses. Whether viruses, which can replicate only inside the cells of a host organism, count as "life" is debated.
Life in the universe
Finding an airtight definition for life may not be so important, astrobiologist Chris McKay of NASA's Ames Research Center in California wrote in an email to LiveScience. It's "much better to have an idea of what life is built of," McKay said. "Life is built of complex, organic molecules."
Characterizing life is vital for identifying it elsewhere in the universe, a possibility now beyond the realm of science fiction. McKay said that if life exists somewhere else, it would be a material system evolving through reproduction, mutation and natural selection. [9 Exoplanets That Could Host Alien Life]
Beyond Earth, one of the first places humans have sought to find life is Mars. The Viking Mission in the 1970s looked for evidence of life in the Martian soil. One experiment appeared to find evidence of metabolic reactions, but these were dismissed as coming from a non-living source (though some still debate those results).
With the announcement that NASA's Curiosity rover has found evidence that life could have once existed on Mars, Curiosity has answered the question it set out to study in November 2011. The finding comes just seven months after the rover landed on the Red Planet on Aug. 5, 2012.
Given that Mars could have supported life, McKay said, "Now we need to look for it."
http://news.yahoo.com/mars-announcement-raises-life-172242042.html
NASA officials announced March 12 that ancient Mars could have supported primitive life. But this begs the question: What exactly constitutes life?
Merriam-Webster.com defines life as "an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli and reproduction." But there's no single satisfactory definition of life.
"I think it is a mistake to try to define life, because we have only one example of life, familiar life on Earth, and we have reason to believe that this example may be unrepresentative of life in general," Carol Cleland, a philosopher of science at the University of Colorado, Boulder, told LiveScience in an email.
Defining life
Aristotle made the first attempt at a definition, describing life as something that grows, maintains itself and reproduces. But this definition would exclude mules, which are sterile, while including things like fire.
Calling life something that has a metabolism, the ability to take in energy to grow or move and excrete waste, is no good either; cars do this, for example.
In 1944, the physicist Erwin Schrödinger gave life a definition based on the second law of thermodynamics, which states that the entropy, or disorder, of a closed system increases over time. Schrödinger defined life as something that decreases or maintains its entropy. Yet this definition fails because it includes crystals, which resist entropy by forming highly structured lattices.
Trying to define life by its qualities is the wrong approach, Cleland said. As an example, she cites scientists' early attempts to define water in terms of properties like being wet, transparent and a good solvent. "We didn't 'define' water as H2O, but rather discovered, in the context of molecular theory, that it is a chemical substance composed mostly of H2O molecules," Cleland said.
Life on Earth is typically divided into two main groups: the cellular life forms, which include archaea, bacteria and eukarya (all the plants and animals), and non-cellular life forms, like viruses. Whether viruses, which can replicate only inside the cells of a host organism, count as "life" is debated.
Life in the universe
Finding an airtight definition for life may not be so important, astrobiologist Chris McKay of NASA's Ames Research Center in California wrote in an email to LiveScience. It's "much better to have an idea of what life is built of," McKay said. "Life is built of complex, organic molecules."
Characterizing life is vital for identifying it elsewhere in the universe, a possibility now beyond the realm of science fiction. McKay said that if life exists somewhere else, it would be a material system evolving through reproduction, mutation and natural selection. [9 Exoplanets That Could Host Alien Life]
Beyond Earth, one of the first places humans have sought to find life is Mars. The Viking Mission in the 1970s looked for evidence of life in the Martian soil. One experiment appeared to find evidence of metabolic reactions, but these were dismissed as coming from a non-living source (though some still debate those results).
With the announcement that NASA's Curiosity rover has found evidence that life could have once existed on Mars, Curiosity has answered the question it set out to study in November 2011. The finding comes just seven months after the rover landed on the Red Planet on Aug. 5, 2012.
Given that Mars could have supported life, McKay said, "Now we need to look for it."
http://news.yahoo.com/mars-announcement-raises-life-172242042.html


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There's a whole field within philosophy about the question. The field is referred to as Philosophy of Mind (The study of free will is Philosophy of Action; the study of knowledge is epistemology; the study of reality is metaphysics, but then the New Age movement jacked the term "metaphysics"). Philosophy of Mind probably the subject I have the most training in right next to Philosophy of Religion.
But no scientist will ever be able to tell you what a mind is because the only mind we experience empirically is our own. We encounter all other minds through inference. It's not uncommon for young children to ask, "how do I know there are other minds?"
That's exactly what Martin Sheen would say. I'm onto you.
But no scientist will ever be able to tell you what a mind is because the only mind we experience empirically is our own. We encounter all other minds through inference. It's not uncommon for young children to ask, "how do I know there are other minds?"
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There is always risk in studying the enemy. Protecting Humanity, you must study all thing to make Humanity a superpower. Even if the other alien races are honest with their intentions, Humanity needs to be strong. I would be damn if we get up like the Volus.
There is always risk in studying the enemy. Protecting Humanity, you must study all thing to make Humanity a superpower. Even if the other alien races are honest with their intentions, Humanity needs to be strong. I would be damn if we get up like the Volus.
That's exactly what Martin Sheen would say. I'm onto you.


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There's a whole field within philosophy about the question. The field is referred to as Philosophy of Mind (The study of free will is Philosophy of Action; the study of knowledge is epistemology; the study of reality is metaphysics, but then the New Age movement jacked the term "metaphysics"). Philosophy of Mind probably the subject I have the most training in right next to Philosophy of Religion.
But no scientist will ever be able to tell you what a mind is because the only mind we experience empirically is our own. We encounter all other minds through inference. It's not uncommon for young children to ask, "how do I know there are other minds?"
That's exactly what Martin Sheen would say. I'm onto you.
There's a whole field within philosophy about the question. The field is referred to as Philosophy of Mind (The study of free will is Philosophy of Action; the study of knowledge is epistemology; the study of reality is metaphysics, but then the New Age movement jacked the term "metaphysics"). Philosophy of Mind probably the subject I have the most training in right next to Philosophy of Religion.
But no scientist will ever be able to tell you what a mind is because the only mind we experience empirically is our own. We encounter all other minds through inference. It's not uncommon for young children to ask, "how do I know there are other minds?"
DeathScepter Wrote:
There is always risk in studying the enemy. Protecting Humanity, you must study all thing to make Humanity a superpower. Even if the other alien races are honest with their intentions, Humanity needs to be strong. I would be damn if we get up like the Volus.
There is always risk in studying the enemy. Protecting Humanity, you must study all thing to make Humanity a superpower. Even if the other alien races are honest with their intentions, Humanity needs to be strong. I would be damn if we get up like the Volus.
That's exactly what Martin Sheen would say. I'm onto you.
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Serious Note: I do think Mars having the right stuff for Life is amazing
Side Note: I am not Martian Sheen and No I have stop having oily shadow dreams with Reapers. There is a way to stop indoctrination by realizing within the oily shadow dreams that you are indoctrinated and beat the Reapers within your dreams. And helping others that you encounter in the Dreams that they are indoctrinated too and talk to them about stopping Reapers.
Side Note: I am not Martian Sheen and No I have stop having oily shadow dreams with Reapers. There is a way to stop indoctrination by realizing within the oily shadow dreams that you are indoctrinated and beat the Reapers within your dreams. And helping others that you encounter in the Dreams that they are indoctrinated too and talk to them about stopping Reapers.


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Toxik Wrote:
We need a new planet, the way things are going on Earth.
Btw, I think I saw a UFO a couple of months ago.
We need a new planet, the way things are going on Earth.
Btw, I think I saw a UFO a couple of months ago.
i do think we need a good alien invasion to unite us. then we take over the galaxy


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Toxik Wrote:
As crazy as that sounds, maybe that's the only way humanity will unify.
DeathScepter Wrote:
i do think we need a good alien invasion to unite us. then we take over the galaxy
i do think we need a good alien invasion to unite us. then we take over the galaxy
As crazy as that sounds, maybe that's the only way humanity will unify.
do you want to join my organization? it excell at crazy and science.
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