Hyuga Wrote: No, it's not. The purpose of a debate is to change somebody's view on something, or at least have them understand your point of view. If I get everybody to have the same opinion as I do (again, the ultimate goal of debate), then I don't have to spend energy arguing. Not fruitless at all for me.

My point is its difficult to claim an absolute in politics since there rarely are any. So the only benefit ONE person can get from changing or modifying a perspective is the satisfaction of out witting another or have a new understanding of a certain topic.

But if you consider that a great accomplishment then good for you, I don't. And not everyone is like me.

Now is you'll excuse me, I'm getting a headache discussing this with you. No offense of course.

Exactly. I'm not going to argue on behalf of other people. I debate for me.


Try putting your feet in hot water. Blood will rush away from your head.

LoganMK Wrote: So the only benefit ONE person can get from changing or modifying a perspective is the satisfaction of out witting another or have a new understanding of a certain topic.

BroomSword Wrote: Help the IQ, stop the "I'm voting for" threads.

Come on Broom, you post stupid crap constantly. At least be consistent...

No one cares that you don't care who they're voting for either, so ugh.

Hyuga Wrote:Try putting your feet in hot water. Blood will rush away from your head.

Hmm, you didn't quite capture the funny there but keep trying. You're clever, you'll get there eventually.

I was making a suggestion about your headache, not a comment about your ego. Putting your feet in hot water usually helps with headaches if they're just starting. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

LoganMK Wrote: Hmm, you didn't quite capture the funny there but keep trying. You're clever, you'll get there eventually.

LoganMK Wrote: Hyuga Wrote:Try putting your feet in hot water. Blood will rush away from your head. Hmm, you didn't quite capture the funny there but keep trying. You're clever, you'll get there eventually.

Hyuga wasn't making a joke there buddy!

Hyuga Wrote: I was making a suggestion about your headache, not a comment about your ego. Putting your feet in hot water usually helps with headaches if they're just starting. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

My apologies

For those of us who are old enough to vote, we do care. Further more, this is a general discussion forum and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you don't like threads pertaining to voting, then simply refrain from reading them.

foahchon Wrote: BroomSword Wrote: Help the IQ, stop the "I'm voting for" threads. Come on Broom, you post stupid crap constantly. At least be consistent... No one cares that you don't care who they're voting for either, so ugh.

The fuck are you talking about?

When I post "stupid stuff" I'm kidding around. I rarely ever make threads, and when I do, I generally spark discussion about an issue. Most of the board could give a shit less if MKNAME556612214 voted for Bush.

BroomSword Wrote: The fuck are you talking about? When I post "stupid stuff" I'm kidding around. I rarely ever make threads, and when I do, I generally spark discussion about an issue. Most of the board could give a shit less if MKNAME556612214 voted for Bush.

I'm not so sure about that, judging from the amount of replies those threads are getting most of the board obviously does care. Although, I do see where you are coming from.

BroomSword Wrote: The fuck are you talking about? When I post "stupid stuff" I'm kidding around.

Well, the fact is, you almost always kidd around and generally don't contribute anything intelligent.

Besides that, what exactly is the problem that you have with people discussing who they're voting for? Someone obviously cares, judging from the amount of replies the "voting threads" usually get.

Sorry to inform you, but just because you don't like threads, doesn't mean people should stop making them. I'm not a huge fan of music, but I don't bitch and say "this isn't a music forum!" because it's general, if it ain't covered in the other threads (and it's not against the rulez), then post it here!!!

BroomSword Wrote: foahchon Wrote: BroomSword Wrote: Help the IQ, stop the "I'm voting for" threads. Come on Broom, you post stupid crap constantly. At least be consistent... No one cares that you don't care who they're voting for either, so ugh. The fuck are you talking about? When I post "stupid stuff" I'm kidding around. I rarely ever make threads, and when I do, I generally spark discussion about an issue. Most of the board could give a shit less if MKNAME556612214 voted for Bush.

This thread is getting nasty. Time to leave.

born-again-vampire Wrote: Sorry to inform you, but just because you don't like threads, doesn't mean people should stop making them. I'm not a huge fan of music, but I don't bitch and say "this isn't a music forum!" because it's general, if it ain't covered in the other threads (and it's not against the rulez), then post it here!!! BroomSword Wrote: foahchon Wrote: BroomSword Wrote: Help the IQ, stop the "I'm voting for" threads. Come on Broom, you post stupid crap constantly. At least be consistent... No one cares that you don't care who they're voting for either, so ugh. The fuck are you talking about? When I post "stupid stuff" I'm kidding around. I rarely ever make threads, and when I do, I generally spark discussion about an issue. Most of the board could give a shit less if MKNAME556612214 voted for Bush.

Do I post music threads?
I'm sick and tired of this site looking like one big balled up idiot.

I hear what you're saying Broom, i was thinking this the other day, but i didn't want to say anything for fear of the dreaded "if you don't like it, don't read the thread" reply, and the mindless justification/arguments that would ensue. It actually would have been better to throw this opinion out in those threads, which would have inevitably been closed for going off topic, but whatever..

I have to go start some threads about why i'm going to re-elect the New Zealand prime minister, and ask you all who you are going to vote for.

One of the more clever things said all day, kj!
Someone understands!

krackerjack Wrote: ...but i didn't want to say anything for fear of the dreaded "if you don't like it, don't read the thread" reply, and the mindless justification/arguments that would ensue...

Why does it need justification in the first place?

Because you have to put the idiots in their place who act high and mighty and say that shit, when you know full well that they don't like what you say. Its hypocritical. Thats why it needs justification.
foahchon said: Why does it need justification in the first place?

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Who are the idiots who act high and mighty? What shit?

I was replying to the post above mine. Yours. Think. Think Harder

This is completely unneccesary. None of you have any right to decide what should or shouldn't be posted on this forum, nor should you create threads to discourage users from posting their thoughts. If you don't care about others' opinions, don't read their threads. A simple solution that is so easily overlooked by the majority can solve most problems. I refuse to let an ordinary user seemingly dictate the rest of the forum with such a thread, as it ruins everything the "General" discussion stands for.

Thread closed.