The PNY Verto GeForce4 MX 4000 64MB DDR PCI Graphics Card is what I use to play my pc games,
you could also try eVGA e-GeForce MX 4000 128MB DDR PCI Graphics Card which is around $100. Both of these use PCI Interface slot type.

what are some games with great graphics that u can run on those cards, and still have good graphics

subzeroCF Wrote: i think i might need a new PCI video card for my computer for Half-Life 2 and Doom 3, whats the best card that's a PCI type

Good luck trying to run either of those games on a standard PCI based videocard...

Save yourself the disappointment and get a new motherboard with an AGP Pro slot, or later on if you can wait, the new PCI Express slots.

*Then* get yourself a nice videocard.

Avoid MX's like the plague as they do not have support for shaders which HL2 and Doom3 will need.

so whats the best PCI card that i can get for HL2 and Doom 3

I don't beleive you can run Doom 3 or Half life 2 on a standard PCI video card.farcry runs sluggish on my ATI Radion 9600 AGP and it's a damn good video card.PCI video cards have become obsolete,I wouldn't waste my money one one,just save your money for now to buy yourself a new PC(I would sudgest building your own but I would assume that you wouldn't know how since you somehow think you'de be able to run HalfLife 2 and Doom 3 on a PCI video card )find yourself a PC with an AMD Athlon 2800+ or higher and an ATI Radion 9800 XT at the very least.by the time you get the money for a new PC PCI express might be released and that'll actually beat the shit out of AGP wich I thought would be the standard for quite a while until I heard about PCI Express.

just don't waste your money.there should be plenty of time for halflife 2 to come out and Doom 3 and even if it takes a long time to get the money it's still better than buying a video card and the game doesn't run on it when it comes out.

Your gonna need a top of the line .. or pretty close to it agp video card to play either doom 3 or half life 2 bud... I don't see any pci cards playing either of those games. I have a GeForce FX 5200 and I'm gonna buy a new video card when those games are released just so I can play without having to worry about turning the graphics down the to crap just so I can play without lag. Like Jonin suggested... get yourself a new mobo... if you don't have an agp slot you probably don't have much of a gamein machine on your hands.

I'm going to have to school all of you aren't I?

Half-Life 2's graphics are scalable to an
800mhZ system
Direct X 7 or up graphics
128mb RAM

So yeah, if you don't want to pay out of your ass, you'll be fine, as long as your system has a decent processor. So yeah.

Doom 3 may not be made so scalable.

And FarCry sucks hairy balls.

Oh so schooled... I would really love to play half-life 2 with all the graphics turned down so that it looks like super mario bros on the nintendo. Come on... you gotta know that "minimum system req's" always suck donkey balls.

BroomSword Wrote: I'm going to have to school all of you aren't I? Half-Life 2's graphics are scalable to an 800mhZ system Direct X 7 or up graphics 128mb RAM So yeah, if you don't want to pay out of your ass, you'll be fine, as long as your system has a decent processor. So yeah. Doom 3 may not be made so scalable. And FarCry sucks hairy balls.

i can run Call of Duty fine with my PCI card now, my computer has 1.8 ghz so i think i should be fine for Half-Life 2

If you don't have an AGP slot there is something seriously wrong with your MB at 1.8ghz you should have one. I mean heck this machine is running at 1Ghz and it is Duron processor, it has AGP.

See AGP access the ram directly and thus speeds it up like all breakout. PCI has to go through the processor and is constricted by your processing speeds and frontside bus. When you have other things going on it actually hurts your pci vid card performance.

MB aren't that expensive and getting a decent vid card isn't that bad either.

-Shoe

The developers claim that Doom 3 can run "Full Impact" on 2.0 Ghz+ and on GeForce 4+. I have a GeForce4 MX440, does that suck? I know that I can't enable mirrors on Max Payne 2, lucky I learned how to build a computer in Workshop this year just in case I need a new graphics card
One more thing, If I wanted to put in a new Nvidia GeForce card, would I just take out my old one, and plug in the new one? Or would I have to configure some things?

You just take the old one out and put the new one in and ur computer should see that theres something new in it, then u just do what ur computer tells u to