UFO Landing Over the Dome of the Rock
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posted02/15/2011 06:40 PM (UTC)by
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Rhuth
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The increase in UFO sightings over the past decade have been, to say the least, freaking radical. In this past year alone we've had major instances such as the UFO sighting in China, which incidentally caused the shutting down of nearby airports, and the most recent sighting over the Dome of the Rock. I am personally fascinated by all of this and would love to milk this out in discussion. Before we delve into this, however, I would like to clarify a few things:

1. A UFO is not necessarily this contraption as it is simply an unidentified flying object. Flying saucers merely fall into that category.

2. This should not turn into a religious debate. If your opinions on these sightings correlate with your religion, then by all means share them, but do not bash other people's supporting views and flaunt your religion in their face.

3. Debating is encouraged. Arguing is not.

4. Although discussion about previous sightings are welcome, most of what I want discussed is more focused on the latest sighting over the Dome of the Rock. I don't want to hear about what past sightings you have evidence for being a hoax.

That said, I'll supply some information regarding the latest sighting, I'll ask my questions, and then we'll take it from there. The latest UFO sighting took place in Jerusalem around 1:00 AM on January 28, 2011. A glowing orb was seen descending just above the holy Islamic site, the Dome of the Rock for roughly twenty seconds and then sky rocketing upward out of view. The scene was recorded from four different perspectives and uploaded to the internet, causing a storm so far.

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Videos 1, 2, and 3 in sync
Video 4

Do you think this is a hoax?
If you think this is real, what is the cause of this UFO?
Have you yourself ever seen a UFO?
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StatueofLiberty
02/05/2011 01:29 AM (UTC)
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I wonder if anyone thought it was God? I mean, it did happen in Jerusalem directly above a Islamic temple.
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Rhuth
02/05/2011 01:33 AM (UTC)
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StatueofLiberty Wrote:
I wonder if anyone thought it was God? I mean, it did happen in Jerusalem directly above a Islamic temple.


Oh man, they definitely do. It was either God, an angel, or a demon in many people's minds. I'm very particularly interested in what the Muslim community must think of this. From what I've read from YouTube comments, many Muslims are saying that this is Allah/Elohim or an angel. The Dome of the Rock was the sight where Muhammad made the ascension into heaven by the guidance of an angel, according to their faith.

If we have any Muslims here on MKO, I'd most definitely like to know what you think. I have my own views, and I'll share them later, but first I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts.
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02/05/2011 02:09 AM (UTC)
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I'm pretty sure that China one was proved to be some kinda space junk type thing. Like a piece broken off of a missile or satellite or something, i can't really remember.

Normally I don't believe anything when it comes to UFO's, but the multiple videos for the dome of rock one seemed interesting, but i sill don't believe in UFO's or aliens. There's probably life SOMEWHERE in the universe, but i don't think we'll ever come in contact with them. The universe is just too big.

But still, that forth video was pretty cool how it let out a flash and then just took off. I'd like to know what the people at the dome of rock heard or saw, but It'd probably just be religious mumbo-jumbo.

I find it annoying that the "UFO's" never really do anything. They just fly around and then take off. I'm interested to find out the reason behind the dome of rock sighting though, like if its a hoax or not. The first video looked fake, but the footage from different vantage points made it seem more valid.

and lol @ "we got ones like that in missippi ya'll" or whatever she says from the first one. Ten bucks says shes been probed
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SubMan799
02/05/2011 02:47 AM (UTC)
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Very interesting, but I'm positive its a hoax. They always are
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QueenSindel(TheBitch)
02/05/2011 02:50 PM (UTC)
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Amazing thread.

I am a New Ager and have pretty much been so all my life, so I know all this stuff like the back of my hand.

I DO believe that these are visits from extraterrestrials. People who say they are all a hoax say that without even putting 2 seconds of research into these things.

We do not have the technology to simulate typical UFO characteristics, such as being soundless (aircrafts), moving in irregular patterns (like going backwards directly), and all the crazy effects they sometimes perform such as splitting up into several pieces, moving faster than light, disappearing abruptly, and diving in and out of the oceans among other things.

Not only are we incapable of these things, but space objects like comets, meteors, and whatnot do not behave in any of these ways either. They cannot even hover.

Hate hate hate when people dump on something before doing a little research.

I'm a firm believer in modern day psychics and those who's work I follow all seem certain that UFO activity will continue to increase. There is also a link between them and the year 2012.

Many think 2012 is a "doomsyear" but really its the year we will go through a mental change due to the flood of sightings and encounters that are said to occur in that year. This awareness of people from other worlds will essentially change the way we look at ourselves, our planet, and our universe. And that change is said to be a positive one.

It is said that this phenomenon won't become a big deal to the general public until next year, although obviously many are starting to take notice now.

Think about it... science and education are expanding across the globe and yet UFO activity is increasing. So it can't be superstition if we're getting smarter and it can't be some human-made conspiracy if we lack the science to explain it.

Anyway these are just my personal beliefs so I don't want anyone to bash the hell out of me for what I've posted.

If you got any questions about the New Age beliefs on this, please don't hesitate to ask me.

Btw, fascinating videos of the UFO, Rhuth.
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02/05/2011 04:41 PM (UTC)
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Rhuth Wrote:
The increase in UFO sightings over the past decade have been, to say the least, freaking radical. In this past year alone we've had major instances such as the UFO sighting in China, which incidentally caused the shutting down of nearby airports, and the most recent sighting over the Dome of the Rock

Why would Dwayne Johnson have a dome in Jerusalem?
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02/05/2011 04:48 PM (UTC)
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Shyriu Wrote:
Rhuth Wrote:
The increase in UFO sightings over the past decade have been, to say the least, freaking radical. In this past year alone we've had major instances such as the UFO sighting in China, which incidentally caused the shutting down of nearby airports, and the most recent sighting over the Dome of the Rock

Why would Dwayne Johnson have a dome in Jerusalem?


Hilarious...(.........)
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02/05/2011 05:09 PM (UTC)
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Spaceman Wrote:
I find it annoying that the "UFO's" never really do anything. They just fly around and then take off.


Crop circles? Abductions? Electromagnetic disturbances? Sometimes UFOs even interact with humans directly. There's some cases where people flash their flashlights at them a number of times and the UFO flashes a light back at them the same amount of times.

There's countless documented reports you can read about.
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SubMan799
02/05/2011 05:58 PM (UTC)
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ya alien abductions is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. Hell, anything involving aliens visiting Earth is nonsense imo. Its the same thing with the paranormal, until we get solid evidence I will remain a skeptic

Anyways, here's an article from AOL that I found interesting:

So what's the problem, you might ask? Here are at least three different videos presented by different people from different angles. Isn't this excellent proof of something extraordinary being documented?

There are some who don't agree. And it seems that the third video -- the close-up one -- is coming under the most skeptical attacks. One analysis suggests that the audio track was, in fact, edited from several different tracks and laid over the video to make it seem as if there were people there.

In addition, there is criticism that this same video isn't even a video -- that it's actually a still photo onto which the UFO was digitally placed. The same critique as above points out that if you look carefully at the so-called video, you'll notice right away that, other than the UFO in question, there is no movement of anything else, i.e. traffic, people, even the twinkling of street lights.

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QueenSindel(TheBitch)
02/05/2011 06:20 PM (UTC)
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Skeptics say the say thing about every UFO video or picture.

Ask the witnesses who were there. They'll tell you if it was a digital effects trick or not.
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02/06/2011 01:04 AM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:>Ask the witnesses who were there. They'll tell you if it was a digital effects trick or not.


...because they're full of shit.

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02/06/2011 02:46 AM (UTC)
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Hhmmm... Interesting.

Btw, have you guys seen the show Ancient Aliens on the History channel. I bet those people would agree that they are Aliens.
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02/06/2011 04:11 AM (UTC)
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Rhuth Wrote:
Debating is encouraged. Arguing is not.

For clarification, arguing is defending or contending a claim. A debate is a contest between two more parties with a potential winner/loser. I think you mean to say "flaming."

I know I sound snotty, and I don't mean to be a semantics nazi, but the word 'argument' has been unfairly treated in recent decades. Arguments, when done intelligently, are our friends.
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02/06/2011 04:30 AM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
Skeptics say the say thing about every UFO video or picture.

Ask the witnesses who were there. They'll tell you if it was a digital effects trick or not.


Either those people are full of shit or they fell for an illusion. Until there is solid proof of aliens piloting UFOs I'm calling bullshit. You gotta base opinions around facts, not the other way around
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02/06/2011 04:44 AM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:

Either those people are full of shit or they fell for an illusion.

Eh, that's a bit circular. I don't particularly buy into the idea of alien life visiting Earth, but you can't say all testimony doesn't count the minute it goes against the status quo. The more grand the claim, the more testimony you need, but you can't use the lack of facts as a get-out-of-jail free card. Testimony isn't proof, but it is evidence. No amount of testimony will ever prove aliens/UFOs/whatever, but you can have enough testimony to the point where disbelieving becomes irrational.
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02/06/2011 05:19 AM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
SubMan799 Wrote:

Either those people are full of shit or they fell for an illusion.

Eh, that's a bit circular. I don't particularly buy into the idea of alien life visiting Earth, but you can't say all testimony doesn't count the minute it goes against the status quo. The more grand the claim, the more testimony you need, but you can't use the lack of facts as a get-out-of-jail free card. Testimony isn't proof, but it is evidence. No amount of testimony will ever prove aliens/UFOs/whatever, but you can have enough testimony to the point where disbelieving becomes irrational.


On the subject of aliens, conspiracies, the paranormal and other outrageous claims, you can never reach that level of testimonies. Until solid evidence is brought forth these theories will remain just that, theories.

If we find proof that aliens have been visiting our planet then our perception of the world will completely change. If we find out that 9/11 was an inside job, the whole world would rage. If we find out ghosts are real then all religion will be altered. The point is, these claims aren't just casual things that can be thrown around. These are life changing claims which is why we need evidence before we accept them as reality.
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02/06/2011 06:03 AM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
On the subject of aliens, conspiracies, the paranormal and other outrageous claims, you can never reach that level of testimonies. Until solid evidence is brought forth these theories will remain just that, theories.

Of course they'll still be theories, but you'd be irrational not to believe them. Testimony is evidence. There's no way around that. But remember: the grander the claim, the more testimony it needs. If you're saying "we'd never reach that point," you're probably right. You can't deny there is a reachable point, though. That's just intellectual stubbornness.

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If we find proof that aliens have been visiting our planet then our perception of the world will completely change. If we find out that 9/11 was an inside job, the whole world would rage. If we find out ghosts are real then all religion will be altered. The point is, these claims aren't just casual things that can be thrown around. These are life changing claims which is why we need evidence before we accept them as reality.

Not necessarily. When you concede testimony, that's all your conceding. Whatever conclusions derived from that testimony are still a point of contention.

If 90 percent of the world population claims to have been abducted by green men, that's all you have to concede: that they were abducted. Whether they were aliens from outer space or military personal wearing nylon suits has yet to be scene. If 90 percent of the world claims to have seen transparent manifestations with human likeness, that's all you're bound into conceding: that they saw human-like manifestations. There's no need to immediately appeal to a super-natural explanation. But to say 90% of the world is either lying or hallucinating is completely out of court. Even if you're right, your still irrational for holding that position.
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02/06/2011 01:40 PM (UTC)
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that stuff is weird..but i dont think its a hoax but watch it will be
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02/06/2011 06:56 PM (UTC)
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OMG those videos are insane!

I hope they are real.
It's scary as hell if it is but I've always said I wanna see some kind of proof of aliens existing before I die.

The thing that freaks me out most is the lights in the sky after the orb goes up.
Like it's the bottom of a ship and they have sent out an orb to take a picture then recalled it.

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02/07/2011 12:23 AM (UTC)
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THREE different angles played all at once of The Dome

Ancient Warnings go deeper than the china incident

Shits no hoax, 3 different angnles? and check out the rid light in the sky that move around afterwards.

ABout the ancient warnings, theres many many ancient carvings all over the world about thos spirals and to run from them. And all of these involve Goats running from the spirals.

Im pretty big into all of this, hours a day but I keep an open mind. Make what you will of it but never dismiss it as anything without at least trying to be unbiased to decensitization.

The main guy I follow on youtube is "smokinjoetrainer". he covers a variety of areas but hes very well connected with news sources and seems to have all the articles, videos etc just as fast as anybody. Hes made a career of it.
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02/07/2011 09:27 PM (UTC)
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Extraterrestrials are not to be feared.

If their goal was to harm us or wipe us out, they could have done that eons ago.

They are not only more advanced than us technologically, but spiritually as well, simply because their civilizations have been around for thousands and thousands of years. Given that amount of time, we'll master space travel as well. Hence, they are humans just like we are.

Many hieroglyphics show humans having communication with these beings and some even worshipped them. So they are not all "warnings." Some depict these beings as teachers and helpers, others depict them as gods.
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02/07/2011 10:12 PM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
Extraterrestrials are not to be feared.

If their goal was to harm us or wipe us out, they could have done that eons ago.

They are not only more advanced than us technologically, but spiritually as well, simply because their civilizations have been around for thousands and thousands of years. Given that amount of time, we'll master space travel as well. Hence, they are humans just like we are.

Many hieroglyphics show humans having communication with these beings and some even worshipped them. So they are not all "warnings." Some depict these beings as teachers and helpers, others depict them as gods.


.........right

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SubMan799 Wrote:
On the subject of aliens, conspiracies, the paranormal and other outrageous claims, you can never reach that level of testimonies. Until solid evidence is brought forth these theories will remain just that, theories.

Of course they'll still be theories, but you'd be irrational not to believe them. Testimony is evidence. There's no way around that. But remember: the grander the claim, the more testimony it needs. If you're saying "we'd never reach that point," you're probably right. You can't deny there is a reachable point, though. That's just intellectual stubbornness.

SubMan799 Wrote:
If we find proof that aliens have been visiting our planet then our perception of the world will completely change. If we find out that 9/11 was an inside job, the whole world would rage. If we find out ghosts are real then all religion will be altered. The point is, these claims aren't just casual things that can be thrown around. These are life changing claims which is why we need evidence before we accept them as reality.

Not necessarily. When you concede testimony, that's all your conceding. Whatever conclusions derived from that testimony are still a point of contention.

If 90 percent of the world population claims to have been abducted by green men, that's all you have to concede: that they were abducted. Whether they were aliens from outer space or military personal wearing nylon suits has yet to be scene. If 90 percent of the world claims to have seen transparent manifestations with human likeness, that's all you're bound into conceding: that they saw human-like manifestations. There's no need to immediately appeal to a super-natural explanation. But to say 90% of the world is either lying or hallucinating is completely out of court. Even if you're right, your still irrational for holding that position.


oh, so your point is "If enough people agree on it, its only rational to agree with it." Right, I thought you meant that we might actually reach a point where aliens visiting the planet is something most of the world agrees on.
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02/07/2011 10:38 PM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
They are not only more advanced than us technologically, but spiritually as well, simply because their civilizations have been around for thousands and thousands of years.

Not saying I believe in extraterrestrial visitors, but it's equally possible that these aliens are actually a very young society that was given technology by an older society.

And even if it is an old society, what if they're all Nietzschians, a race that doesn't believe in good or evil, but only power. Perhaps the only reason they've lived so long is because they have a scary tight social contract. They haven't done away with evil institutions like oppression and slavery, they just perfected them (slavery may have lasted eons in Ancient Egypt if the Pharaoh had a death ray). If this is the case, the only thing they'd want is resources or entertainment.

I guess what I'm getting at is this: if aliens land and I see even ONE tentacle, I am going to run like a motherfucker.
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oh, so your point is "If enough people agree on it, its only rational to agree with it." Right, I thought you meant that we might actually reach a point where aliens visiting the planet is something most of the world agrees on.

Well, close. If enough people claim they saw a dinosaur in San Francisco, you actually don't have to concede the existence of dinosaurs; you just have to concede they SAW a dinosaur. Whether there's actually a dinosaur or not is still open issue.
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