Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but u r the first person I've ever heard say Van Halen is the greatest band ever, aside from Bill and Ted anyways.

Van Halen's good based on the fact that they have Eddie Van Halen for a guitarist. Enough said about that. I personally like Hagar's voice over Roth's, some people don't. Whatever.

But for "Most Successful Band"... in terms of what? Most money made? That definitely goes to KISS, they're one of the top groups for album sales of all time, plus the billions they've made in merchandising. So I'd definitely give it to them.

mister_satan666 Wrote: Iron Maiden is the best band

Somebody has the right idea.

Anyway, I personally liked Hagar a thousand times more than Roth. Not only because Roth sounds like a clone of the average 80's tenor, but because he defines what a shitty human being actually is. Arrogant, abusive, inconsiderate, and mentally blind(the guy still thinks he's the shit). He's an aged sack of bad choices. Hagar may not have had the range, but at least he had a signature voice.

For all those interested, the best Instrumental ever(IMO), is a song by In Flames called "Dialogue with the Stars". I BEG you guys to check it out.

hell ofcourse in flames would have a great instrumental, thats all they have going for themselves, their vocals suck

TemperaryUserName Wrote: For all those interested, the best Instrumental ever(IMO), is a song by In Flames called "Dialogue with the Stars". I BEG you guys to check it out.

Yes. "Dialogue with the Stars" kicks ASS. "Man-Made God" by In Flames is a great instrumental too.

As for Van Halen being the "best" band ever because of their success, that's bullshit. The Backstreet Boys have a huge amount of success; does that mean their music is good? If you want to go by talent, yea, Eddie Van Halen is a great guitarist, but have you heard the music of EVERY great guitarist? And by "great" I suggest nothing of their level of fame, just talent. There are thousands of great guitarists who could probably hand Van Halen his ass on a platter.

mister_satan666 Wrote: Iron Maiden is the best band Van Halen is ok..lots of worse bands out there slipnock, limp bizkit, linkin park,adema,hanson, everclear those are the worst

Oh no u don't Linkin Park is one of the best bands out there adema is ok and limp bizkit just lost it. man linkin park rocks now evenescence SUCKS BALLS

BroomSword Wrote: NickelBack is the wostest band. Proof NickelBack = Penis

LOL when I've been hearing "Someday" on the radio I actually think it IS "This is How You Remind Me." Yea, Nickelback sucks more than Van Halen.

xcarnagex Wrote: TemperaryUserName Wrote: For all those interested, the best Instrumental ever(IMO), is a song by In Flames called "Dialogue with the Stars". I BEG you guys to check it out. Yes. "Dialogue with the Stars" kicks ASS. "Man-Made God" by In Flames is a great instrumental too. As for Van Halen being the "best" band ever because of their success, that's bullshit. The Backstreet Boys have a huge amount of success; does that mean their music is good? If you want to go by talent, yea, Eddie Van Halen is a great guitarist, but have you heard the music of EVERY great guitarist? And by "great" I suggest nothing of their level of fame, just talent. There are thousands of great guitarists who could probably hand Van Halen his ass on a platter.

Some of the best music I've heard is by let's say: Rough Cutt, Cats In Boots, Hurricane, or even Faster PussyCat? *Still think I base "great" on fame?

My first reply spelled everything out, but people are still continuing to post replies thinking somehow that "well he's not going to get me to shut up about my opinion". Well here's my advice don't keep this going. It's pretty much over now, because I know what everyone thinks on this site about Van Halen, I've been here long enough and know your tastes and styles, me being the only big fan here who has replied to this thread. That being said, there is no more to be said.

-Max

NeedlesKane Wrote: Some of the best music I've heard is by let's say: Rough Cutt, Cats In Boots, Hurricane, or even Faster PussyCat? *Still think I base "great" on fame?

I was referring to this statement you made:

NeedlesKane Wrote: Van Halen is the most successful Rock band ever, and there's nothing you can do to change it. They're simply the best, and all because your favorite band isn't doesn't mean you have to hate them.

As ShadowSong said, "successful" by what standards? I'm a guitarist, and I've been trying to start a band for years with no real success at all. But if I started a band and made it big, but in doing so I had to comprimise and write music I don't like, or change the message of my lyrics, I would consider myself ten times the failure that I am now for having NO band. As I've said, I've only heard a couple Van Halen songs, so I'm in no position to say they have no passion for their music, or that their lyrics don't come from the heart. But the thing is, you followed "most successful" with "the best." BOTH of those statements are purely opinion, and certainly neither logically follows from the other. You listen to some lesser-known bands and say they're great, fine. But don't throw around words like "best" like it's a fact, when it's just your opinion.

You guys are putting way to much into this, stop pretending like it's important.

Oh, it isn't. Us rock fans just tend to get pissed when someone starts unjustifiably bashing a good band.

Shadaloo Wrote: Oh, it isn't. Us rock fans just tend to get pissed when someone starts unjustifiably bashing a good band.

Thanks Shadaloo, couldn't have said it better. By the way xcarnage I quoted "The Greatest/Best band ever", from about hmmm Every friggin person that's been to one of their concerts! Just close the thread there's no point in continuing it won't finish.