Cant see the pictures could you post a link.

Yeah, man. We can't see anything.

I just put a direct link to my profile...sorry!! The images just weren't working for me. UGH!

Having seen it, I can see your point, but I can also see hers.

I myself use the word 'bitch' ambiguously, so I completely understand your not being misogynistic. However, I am also aware of the word's commonly intended usage. Therefore, I do my best not to generalize the word, and restrict it merely to interjections and metaphors.

I actually used the word in a joke today on my Facebook page.


Btw, fuck what anyone says, this joke is funny!

No, no you didn't. This is the sort of reactionary nonsense that plagues this world and drives me up the wall, across the ceiling, down the other wall, and back to the exact point I started at but now dizzy.

I, at times, have been more of a feminist than women I've known. In fact in High School, once got in trouble for suggesting that a girl could and should do yard work- the "Man's Domain." She was complaining that her brother had downright refused to plow her elderly grandfather's garden, which had in turn caused her to miss some concert or somthing -I don't recall. Anywho, I asked her the obvious question "Why didn't you do it ?" Now, I kid you not her response was "I'm a girl! I'm not going to do that!" So, I spent the next 15 minutes explaining to her exactly why she COULD and SHOULD do it, and then she started to cry and I was sent to the office for harassing her...

That being said, I'm going to say something-

Men are going to tell jokes about women, Women are going to tell jokes about men, whites are going to tell jokes about blacks, blacks are going to tell jokes about whites, Mexicans, Catholics, Jews, Arabs, gays, straights, and every other conceivable group that you can imagine will tell jokes about those who are not their own.

Nut up, ovary up, ken doll up, and move on!

"ranuh" is either a militant feminist or is on the rag. People do not have the right to not be offended, and she (pardon the pun) is being a complete bitch about it.

I'm tired of this "OMG I'm offended" crap. GENERATION BUTTHURT.

The things is though, all of this 'equality for all' stuff she's been going on about is pretty recent, at least within the last year. We went to HS together and she was never like this (graduated 4 years ago).

It's totally fine that she stands up for women's rights and equality and rape culture and all of that but when I saw her response to why she thought my post was rude and offensive, I was literally shaking when trying to respond to her because I was SO upset that she would have the odassity to try and say that I would downplay women. I would never as they've been an intergal part of my childhood and entire life. From both sides i have 2 grandmothers, 5 aunts, 6 female cousins and of course my own mother. I was completely enraged that I would be accused of something like that.

There's a time and place to defend women's rights and all of that, and then there's taking a joke too far.

I personally thought your picture was funny. I don't see anything wrong with your picture, you were just being funny. Your friend, however, is overreacting.

But could someone PLEASE tell me what the fuck is up with all those hashtags? I do NOT understand the point of them whatsoever.

Hashtags are meant to give your pictures more exposure, because they'll be categorized by whatever you tag.

As for the topic, you didn't do anything wrong, man. Clearly that bitch has a hard-on for starting shit. She should've just moved on. Screaming about being offended is like willingly walking into a torture chamber and staying there until you tell everyone how much it sucks. You don't have to look at it, you don't have to say anything about it, and you certainly don't have to carry on for a double digit number of comments.

This is why the outbreak of fake feminism is laughable.

I feel like this ranuh person just trolls tags like #stopbeingapussy to try to start arguments about feminism...

Also, yay for shoving opinions down throats.

*Yay fr shoving opinions down throts, Jiro. Spell it right.

On topic, this ranuh person is just somebody looking to get attention by any means possible, whether it be positive or negative. Their awful excuses play right into "I'm a bitch", so she decides that she'll jus try to make an upset over something stupid. The hashtags are bein misread by the idjit, mah frend. Sumtins got2 giv in dat dumassss. #bitch #stupid #gameovaries #doublebitch #feminismbecamestupidwithher #dumbass #hashtag #kamehameha #FreeBirdSkynyrd.

I'm never really sure I'm in a position to judge if something is offensive.

I'm white
Male
Straight
Non-religious.

Having these traits means you don't get offended at things very often, but reading those posts it just seems she wanted to be offended.

There's a quote by a comedian that I've always liked in situations like this:

Exactly. See my above post where I mention you don't have the right to not be offended.

Also, Stephen Fry <3

SEX!!! You're back! I know that's an obvious statement, but nice to see you back.

As far as the thread title goes, the only people who ever complain about things being taken "too far" usually victimize themselves. Majority of the time its either women or black people.

So you're saying if someone had a practical joke played on them that had ending up in the hospital and they complained the joker was "taking it too far" are they victimizing themselves?

That's an action taken upon someone that physically injured them, not mere words that just get overly-sensitive people butthurt. This is a prime example of the "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me" adage.

That's understandable however I'm neither a victim, overly sensitive, or butthurt. I was just asking if her being offended was in fact my being insensitive or could she have been possibly projecting her feelings about those words I used onto me

If she didn't bother asking for clarification, and just jumped to the conclusion of you offending her, then that's on her.

I, unfortunately, had the same instance happen to me with a friend and fellow MKO user a couple of years back who somehow misinterpreted my blatantly facetious jokes as insults, despite the fact I CLEARLY showed I was joking. We are no longer friends because of it, mainly because of her literal insults towards me over it and her unwillingness to accept the humor, simply because she couldn't interpret a light-hearted jest, and never bothered to have it explained to her.

I didn't see the picture, but I thought the comment- "I wish my guy friends would stop being such bitches" was funny, even as a woman. I didn't think of "bitch" in the context of a female only, but I can see your friend's point.

Do I think people nowadays are overly sensitive to offense? Yes. If something offends you, then change the channel. That being said, there are people out there who get attention by being intentionally offensive.

IMO, we don't have carte blanche to say whatever we want and be surprised when people react negatively to what we say. For instance, there are some things that just aren't funny- like when people joke about child molestation. Really, really, not funny and anybody that thinks it is is sick in the head. If I encounter a program that makes light of such a serious issue, than I just don't watch it. I don't whine about it.

However, I do think people do sometimes say offensive things out of ignorance, obliviousness, or without fully understanding how their words can impact other people. It's easy to make jokes about people in wheelchairs when you've never been in one, easy to joke about another race you've never been, etc. Instead of people going off on each other and getting angry, they should inform someone of why a joke might be misunderstood or hurtful. I'm not saying do that every time someone makes a comment or joke, but sometimes people need to know when they hurt other people's feelings (sometimes, they really don't know).

It's hard to argue that we don't live in a sexist patriarchal society when the worst insult that you can tell a man is that he's a girl. "Stop being a bitch, man up, and stop being a pussy" are all insults that stem from the idea that females are the weaker sex.

That woman went about trying to inform you of this in the wrong way. You shouldn't attack people for their ignorance. You should just try to start an open conversation and inform them of their misunderstandings.

But I can completely also understand where she's coming. She has to live her life every single day as a woman, being demeaned, objectified, insulted, underpaid, etc. Every once in a while, a blowout is expected.

However, if she seriously just scouts tags to yell at people, then she lame and even if her intentions are good, her actions are unjustified.

Next time you try to insult somebody, think about why it is an insult, and if your answer is that you are systematically creating a prejudice against an entire group of people, you should realize that the entire group of people might understandably get upset that you think that it is an insult to compare somebody to them.

A valid point.

Regardless, it's quite ironic of someone to try and squash negative stereotypes by actually reinforcing them.

At the risk of making myself look like the biggest asshole in the world and starting a huge argument where everyone turns against me...I think a serious discussion could be had about the idea that her and people like her can't necessarily help it or don't realize they're reinforcing the stereotype because stereotypes always have some root, however small, in truth.

I realize this is a massive generalization and doesn't apply to every single person, but women kind of are known for being more illogical and emotion-driven than men. They're also considered more sensitive, more caring/nurturing, and on a purely physical level, are built to develop leaner, weaker muscle mass.

That's kind of where the idea that "women are the weaker sex" comes from, or where insults about being a "pussy" or "girly" come from. Feminine traits and masculine traits are what they are, and a person who seeks to be masculine isn't going to be want to be told they're feminine. But by the same token, someone who prides theirself on their femininity is going to be insulted by being told they have masculine traits as well. And it's true that some of those traits are nurture rather than nature, there's societal pressures and "traditional gender roles" and whatnot...but some of them ARE nature, some of these are physical characteristics, or behaviors we're programmed to have because women are the ones who bear the children, and it's just not productive to deny scientific facts.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to come off as a misogynist or something, if a woman can do the same job a man can do as well as the man can, there's no logical reason why she should be paid less for it or anything like that, that's legitimately unfair. I just think there's a tendency in our society at the moment to act like "equality" means "the same". We're not the same. We're physically, mentally, and emotionally built differently. Which means we have different strengths and different weaknesses. We should be able to recognize/admit that. The "equality" should refer to our VALUE, our net worth and capabilities as a person.

For example, I don't think the military should lower physical requirements if female soldiers can't fulfill them, it's kinda dumb in a field where most of the job is combat or lugging around heavy stuff, to cultivate a weaker force just so you don't have to endure bitching or lawsuits from people who want you to be politically correct. And I say that as a male who, himself, could never fulfill the physical requirements to be in the armed forces. I am a 29 year old man with the build of a 14 year old girl. It's embarrassing, and it SHOULD be, because hey, don't get me wrong, this bodytype would look GREAT on a girl, I know many envious of my metabolism...but it doesn't on me.