Martian Manhunter gameplay discussion.
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posted08/01/2013 05:31 AM (UTC)by
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OK, so wow. This guy has more moves than James Brown.
A little too many specials for my liking. I generally prefer characters with few but universally useful specials (Green Arrow and Sinestro fit this category in this game).

Timing on his combos seem very weird/strict. The visual clues are not useful at all after things like bf2 and his teleport.

Anyone finding b2,333 to be a really weird string? I wanted to use this in some combos but seems the 333 part only comes out when it feels like it, and only if you do all the 3's so I could not consistently try link any specials afterwards.

I don't have any really useful combos to share yet. Was half asleep when I played with him last night and basically will take me quite a while just to get used to all his specials and normals. I also hate strings like f1,u2,1+3 (reason I don't use Black Adam ever).

His jump-ins all seem terrible. Even with trait the don't seem that great.

Overall I see a lot of complaining about MM in our future. People will cry "OP" for weeks. Seems like a very solid character and with all his options I see him near the top once guys figure him out. Can literally control the entire screen.
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07/31/2013 08:27 AM (UTC)
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J1 is pretty good.

Overall this character is very solid, but a VERY tough learning curve. You won't be able to pick him up and in a day or two you'll be good with him, no way.

I found some good bnbs

22 db1 mb, trait, b3, j3, j3 db3, 22 bf3 for around 44%. The b3 after the db1 is very strict timing, aswell as the j3 after the first j3 is hard aswell. I would recommend just doing j3 ~ db3, less damage but less chance of dropping the combo.

I found a pretty good corner combo, f123, f123, f2u1 db3, 3 bf3 for around 40%, if you have trait on it's around 43%.

You can also hit confirm into f123 mid screen, if it hits you can trait and 22 bf2 MB, b3, j3 db3, 22 bf3. This is all i've got so far, you can also use some mixups with b1 db1, and b2 db1. B2 333 is not recommend as it's negative on block.

Another thing is that his overhead teleport is -8 but is actually safe, it's very hard to punish.

About all that i've found so far, also db2, one of his zoning tools is very good MBed. You cannot be airborne at all or it will hit.
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07/31/2013 08:43 AM (UTC)
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redman Wrote:

22 db1 mb, trait, b3, j3, j3 db3, 22 bf3 for around 44%. The b3 after the db1 is very strict timing, aswell as the j3 after the first j3 is hard aswell. I would recommend just doing j3 ~ db3, less damage but less chance of dropping the combo.

I found a pretty good corner combo, f123, f123, f2u1 db3, 3 bf3 for around 40%, if you have trait on it's around 43%.


Are you sure the trait comes before the b3? I was trying to link b3 after some of his specials and timing seems quite strict.

So trait actually increases damage as well? Damn, could be a top 5 trait.
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07/31/2013 09:40 AM (UTC)
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Yes, you can do 22 db1 and as soon as you MB it put trait up, there's no startup frames.
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07/31/2013 10:46 AM (UTC)
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The main combo I've been using is: b3, j2,db3,b2,333. His combos seem kind of weak though. Only 26% damage on that combo under normal conditions and 29% with his character trait activated.
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07/31/2013 01:52 PM (UTC)
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I;m sure Minion is mastering himself as we type lol


I think he's pretty fun. Though true his combos seems a bit..wonky (even for me and I suck at fight games).
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07/31/2013 07:49 PM (UTC)
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A very versatile character I must say. He can zone, he can anti-zone, decent anti-air, good punishing qualities, & trait can give him good reach. However, he is a difficult character to use. Not to mention (since I only rely on mid-screen combinations) all of his most damaging combos rely on meter burning.
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07/31/2013 10:17 PM (UTC)
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As I posted on twitter my brother is in the hospital in a coma, he od'd on stuff. Everything has been messed up for me ever since. I wanted to do combo videos and what not. But Yesterday I had a chance to practice with him. And I have some really nice combos. I was able to do 67% with him with 1 bar. It very hard and wont be easy in full play. But it's there. He is overall the character to master. I have extensive knowledge built for him so far. When I'll be able to sit down and do my stuff is yet to be seen. This whole hospital thing has messed me up a lot. I got to say though, The wait was worth it and I love him in this game very much. Top 8. MM will be top 8.
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08/01/2013 04:30 AM (UTC)
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I really, really, really wish all of MM's projectile moves just tracked like Aquaman's From the Deep trident special unless I hit the extra input to put it somewhere else on the screen. Thats the world I want to live in.

How do you guys use your meter?? I don't know if I should be saving it for big damaging combo's off his enhanced low grab, or use it for block pressure off his enhanced close orb (+35 on block, full combo on hit), or if I should save it for his enhanced db2 move which seems to be his best zoning tool since it hits opponents no matter where they are on the screen and leads to a combo with his teleport. Kinda cool how versatile he can be with his meter though, like I guess it really depends on your opponent. I foresee his biggest weakness being that he can't do very good damage or set up anything with out burning meter. Or do you guys know any good non meter burn combo's/ set ups?
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08/01/2013 05:14 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
As I posted on twitter my brother is in the hospital in a coma, he od'd on stuff. Everything has been messed up for me ever since. I wanted to do combo videos and what not. But Yesterday I had a chance to practice with him. And I have some really nice combos. I was able to do 67% with him with 1 bar. It very hard and wont be easy in full play. But it's there. He is overall the character to master. I have extensive knowledge built for him so far. When I'll be able to sit down and do my stuff is yet to be seen. This whole hospital thing has messed me up a lot. I got to say though, The wait was worth it and I love him in this game very much. Top 8. MM will be top 8.


I apologize to hear that. My prayers go out to you & your brother
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08/01/2013 05:31 AM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
As I posted on twitter my brother is in the hospital in a coma, he od'd on stuff. Everything has been messed up for me ever since. I wanted to do combo videos and what not. But Yesterday I had a chance to practice with him. And I have some really nice combos. I was able to do 67% with him with 1 bar. It very hard and wont be easy in full play. But it's there. He is overall the character to master. I have extensive knowledge built for him so far. When I'll be able to sit down and do my stuff is yet to be seen. This whole hospital thing has messed me up a lot. I got to say though, The wait was worth it and I love him in this game very much. Top 8. MM will be top 8.


Sorry to hear, man. I hope it wasn't deliberate. I've been down that road. Best wishes!
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