Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
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Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/08/2003 04:04 PM EST
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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/08/2003 08:28 PM EST
Blech... You should learn about basic lighting before trying something as complex as this. And, for the sake of my eyes, don't ever use gradients like that again.
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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/08/2003 11:20 PM EST

Hyuga Wrote:
Blech... You should learn about basic lighting before trying something as complex as this. And, for the sake of my eyes, don't ever use gradients like that again.


Its better then anything I can do. Its pretty nice but Scorpion is colored wrong... you cant see through my eyes or how I place things so thats my fault and not yours. Its a nice approach and Sub-Zero is colored quite nicely. Nice stuff.
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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/09/2003 12:02 AM EST
Well, I think you should spend a bit more time on this personally. I don't really like the way Scorpion is colored, that effect around him isn't so good really. Also, I'm not wild about what you did to his eyes, doesn't seem very Scorpion-like to me. I do like his mask for some strange reason, though I still think the texture is too bright, but the idea was nice. It reminds me of molten lava a bit, and I suppose that fits Scorpion quite well. I do think Scorpion could use a bit more black though, to much of the yellowish color for me. You did the muscles on his arm alright, preserved the majority of the details, but the skin tone could be somehwat lighter.

As for Sub-Zero, you did a fairly decent job with him. The eye effect is a bit more reasonable with him, but I really can't see that anger and hatred in either of their eyes as I could in the original drawing. Muscles were done nicely, but as I said with Scorpion, the skin tone could be a bit lighter. The ice effect isn't so bad actually, the ice is a bit dark in some places but its still okay. But his outfit isn't colored so well, some of the blue is too light for Sub-Zero. And the cloth that hangs down from his waist could use for colors, as it looks 'blocky' to me.

Now, for probably the biggest problem I see, its the way you colored the characters' legs and Sub-Zero's neck. The lighting effect is just random, and the muscles look like sections to me, they don't flow together very well as one. Sort of looks like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle to me. That lighting effect in every 'section' is not need, and it makes the leg look very anglely (I think I made a word). Anyway, this has its good points, but I still think it could use some work.
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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/09/2003 06:07 AM EST
Exactly, the muscles look extremely sectioned.
While it looks pretty flashy from a distance, it has a fair few problems.
Those gradients on the legs are not fitting at all really, especially on Scorpion's.
As mentioned, Scorpion is not the best item in the picture, with this colouring anyway.
I do however like the ice and flame effects. Although they aren't really necessary to the pic.
I think the background could be left out as well, or replaced with a dark background (for this version anyway).
Nice try though smile.
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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/09/2003 11:29 AM EST
You said this was your first attempt and in that regard it's pretty good. So here's some advice.

Don't try and take an easy way out. Filters and gradients are quick and easy but the output is less than steller. You can do broad sections for base tones but most of the pic is going to be hand done.

Look at some of the resource pages posted at the top of this forum. There are some really good tutorials to be found there. I'd say check one out then try again on the same picture.

Take it easy
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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/09/2003 11:51 AM EST
i have to say you tryed to put way to much into this, and it didnt turn out that well, i like the masks and special effects on subzeroes arm and his breath, but scorpion is on fire... i dont really like the way that was put in its to blotchy ,aslo scorpions hood should probobly be black not yellow...this looks odd. I like the way scorpions spear looks tho thats pretty good. I dont think you shold have put a backround in with the "free lines" for subs breath and such. not bad tho keep working at it.
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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/09/2003 03:57 PM EST
its good you did your best smile
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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/09/2003 05:52 PM EST
I kind of liked it. Especially the emphasis of the heavy lines. A lot of colorists try to shade them out nowadays. good job for a first shot! :)

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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/09/2003 08:15 PM EST
Sub-Zero looks nice, especially in the blue parts of the costume. Scorpion's legs and mask do not look good at all. The arms look great for both, and the flame and cold effect are very nice. By the way, the background does not help at all, at least in my opinion it's too sharp


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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/12/2003 04:43 PM EST
It's done quite well for a first, but the ~Crow~ already pointed out all of the same problems I had with it. Mainly the use of gradients, and the way you colored Sub-Zero's legs. I also think Scorpion is too yellow as I think the ~Crow~ stated also. But I'd say it's pretty decent for a first. All in all good job.
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RE: Fan Art: Final Bout: Scorpion vs. Sub colored
09/14/2003 09:29 PM EST
The actual image is very nice. The mask designs are pretty damn good. The problem here is with coloring. As Hyuga nicely stated, the gradients have to go. They detract from the picture's look a lot. Defining the light source better would make the picture better as well. It's better to stay away from that kind of coloring style until you've had enough practice.


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