Liu Kang vs Smoke (Fake)
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posted03/21/2008 08:29 PM (UTC)by
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Cyber_EV1L
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06/17/2007 03:50 AM (UTC)
It's my 2nd and that is not an excusetongue.Tell me what you think.Do I need mroe improvements?I had submitted it in the Fan Sub about 2-3 days ago ,but I guess it was not accepted.I know that I need to add shadows ,but I have no idea how...other than that tell me what I need to improve on.
Here it is:
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XTREEMIST
03/04/2008 02:20 AM (UTC)
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I'm no expert ont fakes, but even I can say that looks god-awful.

Why the hell is Liu Kang green? Did he turn into the Asian Incredible Hulk or what? What is that black crap circulating around him and what is that in his hands? Why did you totally screw up his dragon fireball?

I'm not sure why fire would cause Smoke to split in half... you even managed to f*** up his sprite edit, even though it only required a simple copy and paste and a little bit of blood editing.

The only thing I like is the background and that's the MK Team's work, so they get a 10/10. You get a 1/10.

I suggest you don't use sprites from an SNES/Gensis rom and don't use MS Paint (or whatever you used). Rip them form M.A.M.E. Or if you're feeling a bit lazy get the ones from the MKWarehouse. Read the stickied topic on art programs, I suggest getting photoshop and/or paintshoppro.
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-Jago-
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03/04/2008 02:40 AM (UTC)
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I think it's supposed to be zombie Liu Kang judging from the wounds all over his body, but the colors are too sharp and contrasted and it could be shaded better.
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Sub-Frost055
03/04/2008 02:44 AM (UTC)
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XTREEMIST Wrote:
I'm no expert ont fakes, but even I can say that looks god-awful.

Why the hell is Liu Kang green? Did he turn into the Asian Incredible Hulk or what? What is that black crap circulating around him and what is that in his hands? Why did you totally screw up his dragon fireball?

I'm not sure why fire would cause Smoke to split in half... you even managed to f*** up his sprite edit, even though it only required a simple copy and paste and a little bit of blood editing.

The only thing I like is the background and that's the MK Team's work, so they get a 10/10. You get a 1/10.

I suggest you don't use sprites from an SNES/Gensis rom and don't use MS Paint (or whatever you used). Rip them form M.A.M.E. Or if you're feeling a bit lazy get the ones from the MKWarehouse. Read the stickied topic on art programs, I suggest getting photoshop and/or paintshoppro.


Okay, first of all, don't sound so hateful when giving someone crit.

First off, the reason why Liu is green is becuse he's probably refering to undead Liu. I'm guessing the black stuff around him is smoke. And he probably tried editing the fireball.

Why are you not sure on why fire would cause Smoke to splt in half? It's a fatalitiy... duh

I'm sure he did use sprites from Warehouse and not from wherever you're saying he got it from.

So on my words of adivce:

You're still trying, and I give you a lot of credit in doing that. I can't make a fake like that. At least its something. I'm sure if you asked someone around here that can edit sprites can help you make a zombified version of Liu. Help you out in blood effects and making someone be split into two.

I'll give you a 3 / 5 becuase you did try your hardest and make something decent.

CHEERS for MUFFINS!grin
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UltimateRyu
03/04/2008 03:27 AM (UTC)
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This forum is such a joke now. The fakes and critiques are trash
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Sub-Frost055
03/04/2008 03:31 AM (UTC)
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UltimateRyu Wrote:
This forum is such a joke now. The fakes and critiques are trash


You know, it's one thing that your pics are crappy, but the fact that you think everything else but yourself is crap is just plan retarded.

You have no respect for anything, and yet, lets hear your crit. I like to see what smartass comment you have for something that's actually worth looking at than all the copy and pasted pics you make.

When you're art is decent to look at, I'll stop acting like an ass about every conceeded comment you make toawards other's artworks, but other than that, you don't need to be a jerk about everything that doesn't look right to you just because it's a first timer artist. I'm sure you were like this once.

You're just a jerk.
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XTREEMIST
03/04/2008 05:17 AM (UTC)
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"Why are you not sure on why fire would cause Smoke to splt in half? It's a fatalitiy... duh"

I didn't know fire would do that to a human body. It'd make more sense if a sharp projectile was shot up it'd split his body in half like that. Theres not even an explosion to indicate why it split... and if the excuse was an explosion caused it WHERE IS IT IN THE FAKE? Fire balls tend to burn things, not cut them in half like a big axe.

I'd say duh back to you... but that's a silly word for kids.
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fedegita
03/04/2008 09:14 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
You're just a jerk.


Hey being the token MKO loser is enough to turn anyone into a jerk


As for the fake your technique needs some work. It's admirable that you attempted sprite editing, but you need to watch out for colours when you swap pallets. As you can see Liu Kang looks more like an alien than a zombie.

See how smoke's skin and gore turned grey too when you switched colours? Next time isolate the colour you wish to change from everyone else (I'm guessing you used a scorpion sprite, subzero is much easier cos his clothes are blue)

Use lifebars and shadows next time to make it look more complete
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UltimateRyu
03/04/2008 01:19 PM (UTC)
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Clowns are funny
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Wat.
03/04/2008 04:08 PM (UTC)
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The fake and this thread is made of epic fail.
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FDMK
03/04/2008 08:40 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
You're just a jerk.

CHEERS for SKULLS!grin
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Iori9
03/04/2008 09:53 PM (UTC)
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Cyber_EV1L Wrote:
It's my 2nd and that is not an excusetongue.Tell me what you think.Do I need mroe improvements?I had submitted it in the Fan Sub about 2-3 days ago ,but I guess it was not accepted.I know that I need to add shadows ,but I have no idea how...other than that tell me what I need to improve on.
Here it is:


just looks like a color swap with a few extra things, nothing special.
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Cyber_EV1L
03/04/2008 10:12 PM (UTC)
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Thank you -Jago- ,Sub-Frost,and Fedegita for actually telling me on how to improve.MKR any suggestions on what I should do or try doing?

Xtreemist...this is MK and I suppose Jax turning into a giant and stomping the opponent is very real and anybody can do it.There is no need to bash the fake just be reasonable,how can I improve it?I don't see this any different from any of your fakes.I'm just starting out at making this stuff I don't want to make a 2 page flame war/argument about it.And no I did not rip the sprites...

UR if you are not going to give any feedback just stop posting.

I will try to add some stuff in future fakes just don't expect a masterpiece.
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XTREEMIST
03/04/2008 11:49 PM (UTC)
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Cyber_EV1L Wrote:
I don't see this any different from any of your fakes.


You're fucking joking right?
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Wat.
03/05/2008 02:34 AM (UTC)
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Cyber_EV1L Wrote:
MKR any suggestions on what I should do or try doing?


Since you asked nicely, I will oblige.

Outside of the basic premise (fireball, cut in half, etc) I really don't know what you're trying to do here. Liu Kang is Hulkin' out, which makes no sense. If you were trying to make him glow/power up, you should have taken a low opacity brush and built up a glow around the border of his body (if you want an example, ask).

The "edits" to the effects are too... non-detailed. You used single colors that completely clash with the exterior of the effects, thus creating something that makes me want to gauge out my eyes with rusty nails. Try to make things flow when making effects.

The ninja just looks bad, the pallette swap is horrid..

In the future try to make things flow and try to make something that doesn't scream "crap."

XTREEMIST wrote many silly things.


LOL @ being a hardass when your own skills are somewhat on par with the person of whom you're critiquing. Take it down a notch on the wording... you can't pull what you're trying to throw around there.
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SubMan799
03/05/2008 02:41 AM (UTC)
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Xtremist, it's MK, who cares if it doesn't make sense. A centaur turns into a Minotaur and fights a yellow ninja whose pissed at everything. wtf?

Stop ripping on UltimateRyu, it's stupid

UR, stop being stupid

Fake seems to be a pallete that was poorly done. I kinda get why part of Smoke is darker than the other half, but am not totally sure. The fireball looks bad though, very bad. I don't really like the fake, but this is just your second one. Keep practicing on sprite edits, and eventually you'll get it

*reads the second and third line*

Contradiction and Hypocritical! Also spelling and placement of hypocritical might be off! egasp!
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UlcaTron
03/05/2008 03:33 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
You're just a jerk.


Oh noez! Cyber bulliez =O!!
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Zentile
03/05/2008 01:54 PM (UTC)
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It's really all very simple. The execution is just plain terrible. The colors... gah. Really, can't you look at your fake and see what's wrong for yourself? It's all pretty obvious.
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illu§ion
03/07/2008 10:50 PM (UTC)
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I think the image is garbage. You need to start small before you can move on to actual editing. When I say small, I am not referring to copy and paste, but simply start with manipulating images such as what can go to what. After, you can start being more technical such as using the paintbrush and other effects. You can learn how to do that kind of stuff by simply going to Photoshop tutorials websites. Apply those tutorials to your fake pics 'cause that's what I use to do and it helps a lot.
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03/14/2008 02:53 PM (UTC)
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XTREEMIST Wrote:
I'm no expert ont fakes, but even I can say that looks god-awful.

Why the hell is Liu Kang green? Did he turn into the Asian Incredible Hulk or what? What is that black crap circulating around him and what is that in his hands? Why did you totally screw up his dragon fireball?

I'm not sure why fire would cause Smoke to split in half... you even managed to f*** up his sprite edit, even though it only required a simple copy and paste and a little bit of blood editing.

The only thing I like is the background and that's the MK Team's work, so they get a 10/10. You get a 1/10.

I suggest you don't use sprites from an SNES/Gensis rom and don't use MS Paint (or whatever you used). Rip them form M.A.M.E. Or if you're feeling a bit lazy get the ones from the MKWarehouse. Read the stickied topic on art programs, I suggest getting photoshop and/or paintshoppro.


Don't you EVER say "don't use MS Paint"...EVER. I won't even give the reason why because I want to smack you for saying it.
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XTREEMIST
03/14/2008 05:36 PM (UTC)
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Don't use MS Paint.

Now, I expect some one to jump through my montir or you come-a-knockin' on my door. tongue
Damn you're scary.
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03/14/2008 10:08 PM (UTC)
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first post in like i don't know how long! yay!

anyways I'm not saying I'm the next [insert name of artist who uses ms paint] or K1llkano, but i use paint a lot and it's a lot simpler for a beginner. until cyberevil gets better, paint is perfect to cater to his current range of abilities. then he should move on to using photoshop and stuff, because frankly it confuzzles the hell out of me to this day. I still use paint, although i've since retreated into quiet retirement. but i'm just like led zeppelin, you never know when i might make my comeback...anyways for those people who think that ms paint sucks, i want you to take a quick glance at any piece of work the k1llkano has ever constructed, and then come back here and respond.
Paint doesn't suck unless you have no idea wtf you're doing. I exclusively use MS Paint, as PS, and even Gimp confuzzle the hell outta me.

Your iron blades are nothing compared to my mighty rock tied to a stick!

I have no comments for Cyber, as his fake looks like it was posted as a joke, imo. Reminds me of kids, and coloring books.



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03/15/2008 02:58 AM (UTC)
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oh yeah, i was thinking of you, i just forgot your name...at first i thought it was ninja mime, but then i realized it was someone else...then i thought i was thinking of goraka, but then i was wrong again..
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03/21/2008 02:06 PM (UTC)
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XTREEMIST Wrote:
Don't use MS Paint.

Now, I expect some one to jump through my montir or you come-a-knockin' on my door. tongue
Damn you're scary.


Nice smart reply. I guess I could give you one right back but it's not that big of a deal. I'm too old for that. Just to let you know, there are people who are better in MS Paint than people in Photoshop, you just have to have patience and know what the hell you are doing that Ka-Tra said.
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