You too?! When I work on some of my mk fan fics, I have reptile just run off and find his own way, not really siding with any major characters from any of the games, glad to find someone who thinks the way I do

they did not say nothing about liu kang and kung lao so whats the deal and how do you get emotions?????

Now that the game's finally here, and we have info on the overall storyline, I have to say... I'm a little disappointed.

What we discussed in this thread were just some of the broad possibilities, and the 'moth to the flame' scenario that just throws everyone in the mix all-on-all seems kinda disappointing.

I don't know, maybe the game will unfold, and reveal more elaborate secrets. Otherwise, right now, it just doesn't seem to live up to the majesty of the final game of the current era.

I thought I'd come back and post in this thread, just because it's interesting to really look back on where the thought processes were then, and where things have ended up.
It makes for an interesting retrospective, I guess.


[This thread should probably be in fan-fic, now that this forum isn't for speculation, and general fan-fic discussion.]

man u must have too juch time to make a post lie that but thats so pretty cool!

is this in the real game or just your opion

No, this is entirely unofficial, unrelated fandom.
When Armageddon was first announced, and the forum went live, it was a bit of a hive for fan-fic and speculation.

_Crow_, being the superstar he is, has moved this thread to the appropriate forum now. (Even though he's a chief component of the conspiracy that's witholding dragon points from me...)

All just a bit of fun.



Cheers.

i really hate the dark crap. o look raiden is angry now he won't take crap from anyone. if the elder gods took a active role in the realms well being then onaga would never had been revived, they knew shujinko was being fooled and they could have stoped it any time but they let shujinko be a fool, here is my theory, the eldergods themsevles have come under the one beings influance and shujinko was their champion untill he got the kamidogu, they made a deal with onaga that if he helped shujinko he would get to live againand rule the realms as a god. so when shujinko found out that he was duped they made scorpion the champion so they can kill onaga and dubble cross him so they can have the kamidogu and created the dark raiden to stop shujinko from preventing complete destruction while the real raiden is still gathering himself. thats why they wanted shinnok out of the picture so they could have all the power since he wanted all of it for his own. they ignorred the deadly aliance because they killed the only two people that could stop them liu kang and shao kahn.and with the other earthrealm fighters out of the works allthey needed was to have onaga take shinnoks amulet from quan chi. and with raiden blowing himself up he killed quan chi and shang tsung that leaves shujinko, scorpion and onaga, with shujinko dead and onaga slautered by the hellspawn all they need is to kill scorpion and imprision his soul so he cant return. so if you think about it my theory puts together the events of mortal kombat gold, deadly aliance and deception in a giant twisted strand of deception by the ones who are supost to stop the one being the saying absoulute power currupts absoulutely is seen and there are very limited people who are as powerful as the eldergods.when the one being returns he will have the face of ed boon. that is what he ment by cleaning the slate, he is the one being and no one can stop him. my entire explainaition makes the loose ends wrap into a plan that is undeniable. if i'm wrong may raiden with the power of the eldergods strike me dead

I wouldn't say there's anything fundamentally wrong with that scenario, but it doesn't really sit very well with me. I certainly don't think it's any brighter a scenario than other "dark crap," which has really become an atmospheric and thematic staple of the MK series.

Connecting the dots via the Elder Gods probably isn't a terrible way to round out the series, but we're talking about finality in terms of these characters and situations. The MK series will continue on the next gen consoles, and from what we've been told, introduce a range of new elements.

Assuming the MK universe remains intact (or rebooted) for that purpose, I think it's a lot cleaner to resolve the story without the invested involvement of the Elder Gods.
They've always maintained a certain distance, or even disinterest, and this facilitates the events of MK to happen. Otherwise, total control is exactly what you'd have.

I used Rayden as the enforcer of zero tolerance because he's the God invested in events on Earthrealm, and my way of trying to mix it up, and keep it fresh, was to have the events of the MK series to finally lead him to a supreme solution.
The order that was implied by a set of arcane 'rules' has failed, and I think having seen that failure first hand, Rayden would be within his right to become disillusioned, and to put his differences with the Elder Gods aside to resolve a more permanent solution.

Looking back at the overall themes of Armageddon, I actually prefer the way I've tied the last lot of MK games together, to feed that continuity into a sense of evolution. It's the events of those games, and history beyond, that have facilitated the formation of four distinct factions.
The clash of those four groups is essentially what tears everything apart.

I prefer that subtle sense of on-going events, rather than another MK story that revolves around drastic retcons, and manipulations that have been tacked on to events past.

But like I said, there isn't anything fundamentally wrong with those ideas.
Even though I think at the time of MKA's announcement everyone kind of got carried away with the importance of a One Being, and I prefer to discount that, I do like the idea of introducing Boon in that capacity.

Breaking the fourth wall within the MK story seems wrong, but it's kinda fun.

i was talking about raiden when i said dark crap, my point was that if the elder gods wanted to stop what was transpirring they had more than enough power to do so and who would question them, there eldergods for crying out loud they choose not to stop shujinko that tells me either they don't care or they have something to gain by allowing him to complete his quest. if they brought there own downfall if my theory is correct then they all are like shinnok, corrupted and evil and raiden would be in his right to overthrow them and appoint a new counsle of elder gods. lets say the dark story is canon for the sake of arguing because of two people the other being zub-zero's brother before he became a wraith and lets count the black dragons and the red dragons thats 9. because of nine people one of these was fooled since he has a 10 year old boy he gives up on humanity. tell me that makes sence what about liu kang, kung lao, jax, kai, sonya, johnny cage, the great kung lao, kenshi, the younger sub-zero, cyrax, nightwolf, stryker, even mokap, 13 to 9 the people of earthrealm that have been in mortal kombat have defended earth without raidens request or demand. who can we blame for raidens change, who can we blame for onaga's reseruction, who can we blame for liu kangs death, who can we blame for not dealing with shinnok correctly, who can we blame for letting shao kahn invade earth when sindel was reborn, who created mortal kombat in the first place, all of these go to the elder gods. they did a piss poor job of protecting the universe and the mortals are paying for there lack of action. lets face the facts the eldergods have abandoned reason for maddness, rightousness for power, wisedom for arragance. they want the power for there own greedy wants and they brang the destruction of all the universe to get more we would be better off with raiden rulling the universe, or scorpion, or shujinko, anyone is better than them atleast shujinko fixxed his error, and killed onaga that and the fact he was tricked his entire existance don't you think he deserves redemption. lets do a comparison, anakin skywalker willing went to the dark side and killed innocent people for sidious knowingly because he wanted to save padme. shujinko started his quest unknowingly he was serving a huge darkness his entire quest thinking he the eldergods champion. when darth vader killed the emperor his sinns were forgivin. he fixxed his mistake, shujinko did the same thing even when he knew he had nothing leaved to gain by killing onaga, vader gained his sons life by giving his own, shujinko risked his life to gather warriors some raiden knowsto aid him in breaking into onagas hideout and with the power onaga gave him he killed him. smashing the kamidogu to pieces so they can't be used by evil. he deserves some reward for doing the job of the eldergods and there champion for them and he gets killed by a dark thundergod goth. excuse me but raiden was not a vengeful god last time i looked this leaves the next thing i will say if this isn't raiden than who the hell is this.

I want some of what you're smoking man.. Not only did you throw in Star Wars to a MK thread, you give MK AND SW a ring of Christianity... Vader and Shujinko repent... only Rayden still smiteth Shujinko. That's some deep, deep stuff man.

I'm not sure if I'd really like to see that kind of overall arc of manipulation, but fair enough. I'd be content with nonchalant Elder Gods, and Rayden going down a path of intent and purpose, rather than more convoluted 'twists,' but that's just me and what I posted in this thread.

I prefer the idea of the lines of story moving forward, rather than coiling around itself further. Which is why I was content with pushing some stories to the side initially, in the interest of the four-sided overall confrontation.

I'd say obviously endings would wrap things up individually, but as the final product has shown us, maybe thorough endings aren't as obvious as you'd think.

lol thanks, i didn't mean for the christianity to get in there but alot of star wars and some mortal kombat are mixxed with it. armmageddon is supost to be when the world is destroied, and in mknot only earth but all the universe is endangered of endingi remember alittle from judgement day because i was ghostbusters so much '....and behold there was a great earthquake, and the sum became as black as sac choth, and the moon became as blood. the seas boiled and the skys fell' it was also written that the dead will rise from the grave, now in mk the dead don't stay deceased for long, but did anyone ever think we would see stryker again, or rain, jarrek, mavado, kai even shinnok, i thought he was deadanyway if you look at my guess, the one beings influence gose to even the elder gods. raiden was starting to be influenced bet he saw what he was doing and stoped himself before killing shujinko, but the harm the one being did to his soul was achieved. this would explane raiden and shujinko running on the same side. the eldergods summoned all evil to them but raiden and fujin revolted and gathered all the mortals on the side of good including shujinko and liu kang to make one last standto prevent the destruction of existance.