My Photoshop MK Designs
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posted10/25/2012 02:55 PM (UTC)by
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Icebaby
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Beginning to really use Photoshop with my art now. Been toying around with a lot of stuff with it lately, decided to make a MK pic.

I drew it by pencil, colored it in photoshop all during a conversation with the boyfriend.

It was a very long conversation. I don't really want to submit this the old fashion way, just give your two cents and thanks for looking!


About the art:

i really like drawing these characters because they all can be created very differently. I decided to give them their own look, but still having their similar style. They all have different colors to them, Mileena is pink and black, Kitana is indigo and silver, Jade is jade and gold, Tanya is yellow and maroon. So yeah.

Please don't complain about the watermark. There will be more pictures uploaded.
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Unknown265
10/23/2012 02:44 AM (UTC)
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OMG the watermark ruins everything!!!!!! /Commonly-Found Internet Person

Nice artwork. I like the intricate detail that Mileena and Kitana look quite similar to each other in outfit and hair.
My only two gripes: Kitana's neck might be a bit too small for how long it is, and I'm not sure if the corn row hairstyle fits Jade, but that's more personal opinion than anything.
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Icebaby
10/23/2012 03:47 AM (UTC)
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Thank you for the critique, much appreciate it. As of right now, I'm intending on redoing these guys and giving them all a different style, but still staying with what I did with them by giving them all similar appearances. However, I'll still keep in mind what you wrote and be aware of the mistakes I did in the future drawing.

And with that, I'm posting another one!



This time it's the Lin Kuei clan... Yes, I know that Smoke looks really odd, I messed up on him and not liking it. With that said, I'll go into details.

I've always wanted Sub-Zero to look more of a badass as he did in Deadly Alliance, although I'm saddened because that look never really returned. So I wanted to avenge the look by giving him a badass appeal. So I did, in a way... to me. I gave him armor rather than covering him all in cloth. I think it suits him... You guys... would like to know.

Since a lot of people LOVES to call Frost a "Sub-Zero clone" I decided to make her look a little similar to him, but still giving her own unique look. I wanted to do something with that hair but I decided not too. Maybe along the future I might do something about it.

And with Smoke, I wanted him to look different from the other two, but still look like the Lin Kuei mainly on the fact that he controls smoke rather than ice. I didn't want to add any smoke effects because I would like to save that when I do a solo shot of him without people/objects getting in the way. So, for right now, Smoke is smokeless.

Enjoy!
These are all excellent pieces. I'm especiall6y loving the punk style you gave them. I don't think Smoke looks weird at all. The messy hair styles & poses make them look sweaty n alert yet relaxed/tired, like they were just fighting... or at a concert/rave. Love Jade's cornrows. Kitana's frills look a slight bit French maidy.



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VenoMark
10/24/2012 12:24 AM (UTC)
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There is one glaring issue that has tainted this sub-forum over the last half-decade (give or take): the worthless criticism provided by users. These users are either desperate to be accepted by whichever mindless culture will have them, or simply artistically blind. No one takes the time out of their day to offer the advice a promising artist needs to advance in their chosen medium. If you don't have the talent to produce artwork that is clearly first-rate, then I'd suggest checking yourself before spewing forth your hollow commentary. If anything, your useless praise hinders an artist's ability to improve when palpable mistakes have been made. That said, I will offer instruction that only a well-regarded, versatile artist can.

Anatomically speaking, the execution is passable at best. There is no definition in the facial region, and their hands look like they belong to Gumby. Making use of source material (photographs of the male and female bust, for example) is essential in developing the skill it takes to produce an attractive mug.

Hair is also tricky to perfect without a lot of practice, but surprisingly simple once you do get the hang of it. I'd suggest referencing a few comic book tutorials that specialize in this element.

The fact that most of these characters are leaning to the left so profoundly is a blatantly obvious misstep that should have been corrected prior to advancing to the next character. This could've been corrected by simply selecting each character and rotating each one accordingly so that they don't look as though they're too drunk to straighten their posture.

Honestly, whatever modifications were made in Photoshop are indistinguishable. It appears as though the whole of each image was hurriedly sketched in anticipation of exploiting certain Photoshop tools. I assume that the indistinct shading applied to each character was implemented in your preferred graphic design software. I suggest make your shading more pronounced, especially when it comes to curvatures. Otherwise, as in this case, everything retains a look of flatness.

I understand that compliments are appreciated and sometimes necessary to build an artist's ego, but I can guarantee you that honesty is appreciated a lot more. You can be honest and flattering at the same time. You, icebaby, clearly possess the potential to improve, but it's a matter of whether or not you're open-minded enough to accept the criticism of an established artist that proves whether or not you're capable of improving on a wider scale. That is all.
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Icebaby
10/24/2012 03:44 AM (UTC)
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Tetra_Vega Wrote:
These are all excellent pieces. I'm especiall6y loving the punk style you gave them. I don't think Smoke looks weird at all. The messy hair styles & poses make them look sweaty n alert yet relaxed/tired, like they were just fighting... or at a concert/rave. Love Jade's cornrows. Kitana's frills look a slight bit French maidy.



Ka-Tra


Ahh yes, the punk-like style is always a favorite of mine to capture, especially when it comes in re-designing costumes for MK characters.

I really wanted to give Jade a personal look that will make her stand out because of the color of her skin. You know how it's always debatable whether or not she's black and such, I decided, "what the hell, I'll make her black," and gave her kind of a sterotypical hairstyle. But not on purpose though. Just to make her stand out more.

With Kitana, I just never saw anything that read "princess" and attempted to do something with that. As I stated that I will be redoing the fantastic four, I just gave it a go and see what I could do with a simple princess look. "Details" is my middle name, somewhat, that's what's missing in these pictures.

However, I do thank you for the feedback. Much appreciated!


VenoMark Wrote:
There is one glaring issue that has tainted this sub-forum over the last half-decade (give or take): the worthless criticism provided by users. These users are either desperate to be accepted by whichever mindless culture will have them, or simply artistically blind. No one takes the time out of their day to offer the advice a promising artist needs to advance in their chosen medium. If you don't have the talent to produce artwork that is clearly first-rate, then I'd suggest checking yourself before spewing forth your hollow commentary. If anything, your useless praise hinders an artist's ability to improve when palpable mistakes have been made. That said, I will offer instruction that only a well-regarded, versatile artist can.


I beg the differ. Any feedback is welcome in my books, whether or not they are to help me improve on my art. If those feel like commenting on my art without any help on improving, I'll read it and thank them for at least looking at my work. Those who want to take it up a notch by helping me improve, telling me things and such, I'll read it and thank them too. I don't mind what is said, as long as it's respectable and not insulting or just blatantly stupid, I'll accept and move on.

VenoMark Wrote:
Anatomically speaking, the execution is passable at best. There is no definition in the facial region, and their hands look like they belong to Gumby. Making use of source material (photographs of the male and female bust, for example) is essential in developing the skill it takes to produce an attractive mug.


This is cartooning at the best for me. Also, these pictures weren't really meant to capture facial features, it was more so on the designs of the costumes I have each characters in. I am majoring in animation both 3D and traditional, using those skills to become a character concept artist for either movies or video games. This is what I mainly draw almost every day. However, when I feel like adding more details to faces and such, I'll do a solo picture of them, showing every inch of detail possible.

I have different styles of art, when it comes to cartooning, I put less details, but focus on the appearance of characters in how they dress. When I want to go more of a realism look, you'll know and see the difference.Attached are links to show you what I mean when I say I put in details:


Concept 1
Concept 2

VenoMark Wrote:
Hair is also tricky to perfect without a lot of practice, but surprisingly simple once you do get the hang of it. I'd suggest referencing a few comic book tutorials that specialize in this element.


As stated before, with cartooning, i put less details in things. I create well-designed looks in hair:
Concept 1

VenoMark Wrote:
The fact that most of these characters are leaning to the left so profoundly is a blatantly obvious misstep that should have been corrected prior to advancing to the next character. This could've been corrected by simply selecting each character and rotating each one accordingly so that they don't look as though they're too drunk to straighten their posture.


Unfortunately, I didn't create these characters individually, so i couldn't fix their stances. The Edenian picture, I can actually say, I added the picture in crooked in my scanner, and I never really was bothered by the way that they all slanted to the left. I thought it was an interesting touch so I left it like that.

VenoMark Wrote:
Honestly, whatever modifications were made in Photoshop are indistinguishable. It appears as though the whole of each image was hurriedly sketched in anticipation of exploiting certain Photoshop tools. I assume that the indistinct shading applied to each character was implemented in your preferred graphic design software. I suggest make your shading more pronounced, especially when it comes to curvatures. Otherwise, as in this case, everything retains a look of flatness.


That's in your perspective, but I don't intend on showing off work that's "hurried" I've always taken my time. And even though I stated that the first picture was done during a phone call conversation, it's not like I didn't take my time. I never hurried a picture once in my life and I don't intend on doing so either. However, I must say, once again, my style of cartooning isn't supposed to depict realistic, and these are just mere costume concepts, nothing more but costume concepts.

And the only tools I used were the paintbrush and the fill bucket. That's basically it.


VenoMark Wrote:
I understand that compliments are appreciated and sometimes necessary to build an artist's ego, but I can guarantee you that honesty is appreciated a lot more. You can be honest and flattering at the same time. You, icebaby, clearly possess the potential to improve, but it's a matter of whether or not you're open-minded enough to accept the criticism of an established artist that proves whether or not you're capable of improving on a wider scale. That is all.


I'm always open for anyone's suggestions, however, I must also defend my work if I see something questionable through someone's critique. I thank you though for taking the time and patience to write all of that.
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VenoMark
10/24/2012 04:16 AM (UTC)
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I appreciate that you take my criticism seriously, I will say that. I don't mean to come off as a complete douchebag, but people are going to interpret what I say however they see fit.

Unless someone specifies that viewers should look at your artwork in a certain light, such as the "fashion design" approach I apparently should've taken with these, then I'm probably going to make an effort to critique the images as a whole as opposed to certain aspects. I wouldn't be at fault if I took the latter approach if a specific methodology isn't indicated.

That said, I'm not too terribly impressed with the designs in the first image. The second, on the other hand, I would say that it seems as though you went through a more meticulous effort to differentiate the members of the Lin Kuei from the other Ninja subgroups.

As for the concepts for which you've supplied links, I can now differentiate between your "fashion designs" and your approach to realism. Without going into too much detail, I would say that the concepts are a lot more of what I'd expect to see from an experienced artist.

Now that I've been acquainted with both of your artistic methods, I'll try to handle future critiques a bit more appropriately.
I was merely commenting, not critiquing. While I do critique sometimes, I wasn't in the mood to say you're doing shit wrong, when I'm an imperfect artist myself. Sometimes it's hard to tell if something is a "mistake" or just part of the style.

Like how Jade's fingers are merged like mits. The other girls are wearing gloves, Jade ain't. Or that her staff isn't straight. I don't think cornrows are stereotypical, I've seen plenty of white folks with cornrows & dreads. Jade looks like that chick who resembles Riley from Boondocks. Mileena looks so plain/bland. Kitana looks sad. All the breasts are misshapen...

I don't care that they're leaning.
I have a similar problem when I draw characters, they're all standing stiff straight on, with their arms at their sides. I'm not to good with action poses cause I'm not sure about angle/proportions or wrinkle patterns.



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