Need help on belt design
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posted05/11/2014 01:44 PM (UTC)by
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hankypanky1
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08/12/2012 01:52 PM (UTC)
Was thinking of using this Google Chrome logo for belt? Thoughts...



Link to pic

Original Khrome without belt
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Jaded-Raven
05/09/2014 02:29 PM (UTC)
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I wish you would stop copying everything else around you and start trying to make up something original. Since Khrome isn't going to be anything else than a piece of fanart, you don't have to think about copyright infringement and the like, but I'd like to see some originality come from you for once.
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hankypanky1
05/09/2014 02:31 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I wish you would stop copying everything else around you and start trying to make up something original. Since Khrome isn't going to be anything else than a piece of fanart, you don't have to think about copyright infringement and the like, but I'd like to see some originality come from you for once.


Should he have human skin with Chrome armour, vest, and sash and shin guards and helmet? Or would that look weird with liquid metal arms??

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Jaded-Raven
05/09/2014 02:42 PM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I wish you would stop copying everything else around you and start trying to make up something original. Since Khrome isn't going to be anything else than a piece of fanart, you don't have to think about copyright infringement and the like, but I'd like to see some originality come from you for once.


Should he have human skin with Chrome armour, vest, and sash and shin guards and helmet? Or would that look weird with liquid metal arms??






I'll play nice... but that means you need to listen.
Making him all metal isn't a bad idea. Giving him human skin would just make him look more like that Terminator guy, imo. But the whole liquid metal... it's been done. It's not new or original. And making him another ninja-design just makes him even less original, but I know you've set your mind on that and I'm probably never going to convince you otherwise.

Just a question... You ask for all these things, you ask for our input, our feedback and opinions... But do you even consider anything we say at all? Because, so far, you've kept all your own ideas and not done anything suggested to you.
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hankypanky1
05/09/2014 03:19 PM (UTC)
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Noone really gave opinions to Khrome in the Khrome thread, it was mostly 'You need to start over' and 'Unoriginal'. It was RazorsEdge idea to make his hands like Sandman- Mace, Fist. EmperorKahn said to give him Chrome armour. And UltimateRyu said to make him have human skin because the other ninjas are like that. The Shredder idea came from Krinj when I showed them the 4th revision and they said "I Love THIS! I feel that the shredder look belongs with him better than SZ :) . So 5th revision was made with Sub-Zero's Deception as template.

Making him like the Terminator guy is closer to the original Khrome statue. I don't know if he should have chrome armour on Vest and sash, only use chrome armour on helmet, shin greavers. And maybe this pattern for vest+sash.



I don't want him to be like Silver Surfer as well.
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Chimera
05/09/2014 03:21 PM (UTC)
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Why is this even in the Fan Submission Forum? I don't see any fan art submitted.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:
hankypanky1 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I wish you would stop copying everything else around you and start trying to make up something original. Since Khrome isn't going to be anything else than a piece of fanart, you don't have to think about copyright infringement and the like, but I'd like to see some originality come from you for once.


Should he have human skin with Chrome armour, vest, and sash and shin guards and helmet? Or would that look weird with liquid metal arms??






I'll play nice... but that means you need to listen.
Making him all metal isn't a bad idea. Giving him human skin would just make him look more like that Terminator guy, imo. But the whole liquid metal... it's been done. It's not new or original. And making him another ninja-design just makes him even less original, but I know you've set your mind on that and I'm probably never going to convince you otherwise.

Just a question... You ask for all these things, you ask for our input, our feedback and opinions... But do you even consider anything we say at all? Because, so far, you've kept all your own ideas and not done anything suggested to you.


I agree. Any of the input we ever gave is usually disregarded. Meaning him asking what we think is useless.
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hankypanky1
05/09/2014 05:13 PM (UTC)
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Chimera Wrote:

>I agree. Any of the input we ever gave is usually disregarded. Meaning him asking what we think is useless.


I respect JadedRaven for extending a hand for being a bigger person. I'm not gonna argue with u or anyone because I'm going clubbing later. I would like anyone's input regarding vest, sash, the design of outfit, whether for it to be chrome armour or design in the runway (fashion) pic above.
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05/09/2014 05:49 PM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
Chimera Wrote:

>I agree. Any of the input we ever gave is usually disregarded. Meaning him asking what we think is useless.


I respect JadedRaven for extending a hand for being a bigger person. I'm not gonna argue with u or anyone because I'm going clubbing later. I would like anyone's input regarding vest, sash, the design of outfit, whether for it to be chrome armour or design in the runway (fashion) pic above.


And by being a bigger person, you mean feeding your wishes?

That's all you want. You want everyone else to make Khrome for you. You take other people's suggestions, you steal other people's ideas (including the Google Chrome logo), and you foolishly pay excessive money for artwork.

And you expect NRS to take you seriously?
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Chimera
05/10/2014 01:44 AM (UTC)
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I remember I sent a PM saying his hands change weapons, maces being one of them like Marvel's Mercury. But of course, he disregarded that. I see my input really is null.
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hankypanky1
05/10/2014 12:26 PM (UTC)
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I see you've not heard of something called a collaboration.
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Jaded-Raven
05/10/2014 02:43 PM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
I see you've not heard of something called a collaboration.


A collaboration requires for both parts to contribute something.
What have you contributed?
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hankypanky1
05/10/2014 04:24 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
hankypanky1 Wrote:
I see you've not heard of something called a collaboration.


A collaboration requires for both parts to contribute something.
What have you contributed?


Time and money. I'm getting it done.
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05/10/2014 05:39 PM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
hankypanky1 Wrote:
I see you've not heard of something called a collaboration.


A collaboration requires for both parts to contribute something.
What have you contributed?


Time and money. I'm getting it done.


So basically, you're just a financer?

Well that explains why you ask everyone else for suggestions. You have no creative proess; you just have money.

Well, that's nice, but NRS already has money. What they need is creativity. It seems you cannot offer that. Here's a suggestion, and an honest one.

Instead of snatching up the ideas of others, find someone with great creative skill and fund them. Help them to pursue their dreams and in turn you'll reach your own. It's a lot better than lobbying around message boards all day, I can tell you that.
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Jaded-Raven
05/10/2014 05:41 PM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
hankypanky1 Wrote:
I see you've not heard of something called a collaboration.


A collaboration requires for both parts to contribute something.
What have you contributed?


Time and money. I'm getting it done.


Then it's not a collaboration. It just makes you a client, paying someone to do all the work.

You really don't have any creative bones in your body, huh...
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So basically, you're just a financer?

Well that explains why you ask everyone else for suggestions. You have no creative proess; you just have money.

Well, that's nice, but NRS already has money. What they need is creativity. It seems you cannot offer that. Here's a suggestion, and an honest one.

Instead of snatching up the ideas of others, find someone with great creative skill and fund them. Help them to pursue their dreams and in turn you'll reach your own. It's a lot better than lobbying around message boards all day, I can tell you that.

This.
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hankypanky1
05/10/2014 06:41 PM (UTC)
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I wouldn't say financer or investor. I'd say more like compliance partner. It's like people give their suggestions and then I research it and know more about it and then make a decision based on it. I'm the one calling the shots. It's like my MK10 community wishlist thread. I take people's suggestions and then research it more. So yeah overseeing things.
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05/10/2014 08:45 PM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
I wouldn't say financer or investor. I'd say more like compliance partner. It's like people give their suggestions and then I research it and know more about it and then make a decision based on it. I'm the one calling the shots. It's like my MK10 community wishlist thread. I take people's suggestions and then research it more. So yeah overseeing things.


No, you're a financer.

Don't bullshit this. You're not calling anything; you're just asking people to literally give you their ideas. You're not doing any research; you're just browsing Google Images.

Actual research would require extensive time of analyzing existing fighting game franchises - including your own - and the mechanics of their characters to grasp the basis of norm quality for a fighting character, while ensuring the character you're creating does not overtly blend into or copy the crowd. You clearly haven't done any of this.

In terms of image, the most extensive research would be to analyze the mode of appearance within Mortal Kombat itself. Review the usual templates for characters and categorize them, typically by gender, place of origin, occupation, and combat style/ability, but you must also take all other data into account. Future changes in appearance mode are most critical, and they must be applied. Once you've analyzed the data, you create your character's appearance accordingly, to assure he/she fits the mode of the franchise's universe, while simultaneously having a unique appearance. You clearly have not done any of this.

Far more than browsing the internet is required when developing a character, especially a good one. You have to know your franchise as well as the franchises of your competitors. You have to know the essence of the game your character is slated to be in. You can't just go on a message board and snatch up ideas. The character must be polished.

You want to create a legitimate character? Put forth the effort.
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05/10/2014 09:17 PM (UTC)
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You people do realize that just because you offer some form of input, he is in no way obligated to implement your ideas? Every time I see this guy make a thread, it's the same four people victimizing themselves and demonizing him. Granted he asks for it at times, but it's always the same clusterfuck with a different outfit.

As for the subject matter, the general shape of the Chrome logo could lead to an interesting belt design, but make the design yours. Don't recycle a logo millions of people are familiar with. That's lazy. You can do better.
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05/10/2014 10:12 PM (UTC)
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dibula Wrote:
You people do realize that just because you offer some form of input, he is in no way obligated to implement your ideas? Every time I see this guy make a thread, it's the same four people victimizing themselves and demonizing him. Granted he asks for it at times, but it's always the same clusterfuck with a different outfit.



I've grown weary of sitting by and watching him run rampantly, both throughout threads and PM, without a bit of proper acknowledge and enforcements against his offenses.

It is as if he was granted permission to obstruct the moment he signed up. He wants his due, and he shall have it. I will confront his misdeeds and offenses when I see them, while still offering legitimate advice (much to my surprise). I typically leave this to PM, but sometimes attention is called sooner.

You may take my choice of action how you wish; feel free to express any disapproval, as I accept that my choice isn't exactly the wisest.
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hankypanky1
05/10/2014 10:43 PM (UTC)
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Anyone got anymore ideas on Khrome? I'm willing to hear yall out. Some other guy from another forum said to make his weapon like the guy from Prototype. Is a blade better than a mace?

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balkcsiaboot
05/10/2014 11:37 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
Instead of snatching up the ideas of others, find someone with great creative skill and fund them. Help them to pursue their dreams and in turn you'll reach your own. It's a lot better than lobbying around message boards all day, I can tell you that.


lol
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Jaded-Raven
05/10/2014 11:57 PM (UTC)
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Yes, keep stealing ideas from others. Then you'll be sure to get NRS' attention.
I still don't get why you keep asking for our input, and then totally disregards it.
But I've stopped caring. Better to just ignore you and hope you disappear...
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balkcsiaboot
05/11/2014 12:44 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
... But I've stopped caring. Better to just ignore you and hope you disappear...


Everyone keep saying that, but he manages to get your all's attention with every thread he makes over and over and over and over again.
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Jaded-Raven
05/11/2014 01:27 AM (UTC)
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blacksaibot Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
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But I've stopped caring. Better to just ignore you and hope you disappear...


Everyone keep saying that, but he manages to get your all's attention with every thread he makes over and over and over and over again.


Yeah, he does have the ability to push people's buttons with his annoying and arrogant personality which baits people into replying. I've grown weary of it though. He's not willing to change, no matter how much good and constructive criticism is sent his way and no matter how much crap and insult is thrown at him.

I'm tired of it though. I don't care anymore, about him or his Khrome.
And the less people respond to him, the less attention he gets, the faster his threads and posts will fade into oblivion. I can only control what I do, I can't tell what other people should do, but I encourage everyone to just ignore him.

This will be my last reply in any of hanky's threads. Want to address me, do it outside of these threads of his or send me a PM. ^^
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Chimera
05/11/2014 01:44 AM (UTC)
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This is gonna be another locked thread because
a) this does not belong in fan submission
b) no good contributions (again)

hankypanky1 Wrote:
I wouldn't say financer or investor. I'd say more like compliance partner. It's like people give their suggestions and then I research it and know more about it and then make a decision based on it. I'm the one calling the shots. It's like my MK10 community wishlist thread. I take people's suggestions and then research it more. So yeah overseeing things.


Right, like he researched Oculus Rift when he put it on his wishlist. And originally wanted the next Mortal Kombat to NOT have fatalities. I wonder what research means to him.

As I have told him before, because he likes bringing people down, people like to bring him down. If he was nicer, people would've been nicer
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hankypanky1
05/11/2014 03:07 AM (UTC)
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Well you're never going to please everyone so there's no point in trying. One person says 'he wants Khrome as a ninja' another person says he wants a non-ninja Khrome. Since this is my project I get the final say. If u don't like the direction it's going u are free to start your own project. Rather than just talk about it, go do it if u really cared. Don't just talk the talk, walk the walk because I'm walking with out without u.
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