Reiko Vs Kai
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09/02/2003 10:34 AM (UTC)by
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MarktheFox
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06/20/2003 01:46 PM (UTC)
I'm urm, sorry, you, uh did this?
Wow, you've improved, lol.
However, here's a few things:

- The text for the names of the characters, is very basic, and annoying. Looks like an appropriate font, but its all one colour.
- Same for the timer.
- I think on Reiko's edit, the red is a little dark.
- Not keen on the fight text, regular would do.

Good things:

+ Everything is there, pretty much, lifebars, shadows.
+ Background is pretty decent, seems a little bright, but good.
+ The edits are nice. Not eye-popping perhaps, but you've definately improved alot.

Definately an improvement, nice work smile.
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peterbi
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09/01/2003 08:06 PM (UTC)
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the character bar heads are too big, other than that its ok
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Zentile
09/01/2003 08:25 PM (UTC)
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Lifebars are terrible. Terrible. Terrible, Terrible.
Then, the sprites are pretty blocky and simple. The lines on Jax, I mean Kai dont have any shading or anything. They're just lines.
The bg is quite bad. practically no editing. That MK logo looks like it's just floating there. I take it it's suppose to be attached to that ...thing?
The Pillars are not too good aswell, they need some editing. Along with everything else.
The only good thing about this fake is that big energy thing on the bg, which was probably easy to do with the program you have, and the shadows are nice too.
The sprite edits are ok.
2/5
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Sub-Zero_7th
09/01/2003 08:50 PM (UTC)
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Well do you know what my first problem with this is?

It's the fact that this is a fake pic and the title of this thread indicates it as a Fan art!!!

My second problem has to do with the sprites. I think that IMO, the reddish (or whatever color it is) part of Reiko's costume looks a bit on the dark side.

As for Jax...I mean...Kai..well..it's sort of as if Jax has gone Shaolin. tongue

The lifebars....are not that great....

And well...there really isn't much going on in this Fake Pic so at the end of the day...this pic gets a 1 out of 5 from me..
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Zentile
09/01/2003 08:57 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Well do you know what my first problem with this is?

It's the fact that this is a fake pic and the title of this thread indicates it as a Fan art!!!

You're kidding, right sub?
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balkcsiaboot
09/01/2003 09:10 PM (UTC)
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The only thing that some-what impresses me is Reiko's face. But it's still very obvious the face is from cage. Reiko's costume is horrible. It's just a maroon colored ninja suit. That's not how Reiko's costume looks like. You didn't even add the details to it to make it seem more like Reiko's. He doesn't even have the spikes on his costume.

Kai is just sad. You could have at least edited his face to make it look less like Jax. The cloth shit on you made is disgusting looking. It's way too thick, he isn't a sumo wrestler for crying out loud. You forgot the straps around Kai's legs too. Now, for the most lazy part of your picture. Kai's stripes. What the fuck did you do, use the paint brush and just draw sloppy assed lines? You didn't even bother to get rid of Jax's metal wristbands or whatever you call it. You're really lazy.

I think the stage is gay looking. It makes no sense. The health bars look fucked up, and the icons for the characters are too big and the font sucks - all of it. Well, at least you added shadows.
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The_Red_Dragon
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09/01/2003 11:45 PM (UTC)
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I personally like the sprite edits and think they are a step in the right direction for you. My only suggestion would be to occasionally try to mix body parts to create your own fighting stances. Oh, and the maroon’s are a bit on the dark side for both Reiko and Kai.

I’m glad to see you making your own backgrounds, and while I do like the concept for it, there are just a few minor details I’d like to point out. First, the floor appears to drop down at a severe angel. My guess is that you extended it backwards but only the darker portion of it, thus creating the illusion of three dimensions to an object with on one. But that’s just me. The pillars look flat, plain and simple. I’d edit them to give the appearance of depth. Last, I think you would be best off removing that wall section. I look a bit out of place because it’s just sitting there with no real use. I’m assuming you’re using merely as a way of holding up the stained glass window? If you’re intent on keeping the window, try extending the wall out of just use some sort of fencing to bring the whole thing together. It might look good to make that wall extend all the way across the area and then pasting on sections (not whole windows) of stained glass windows from the Temple background.

Over all, I like it. You’ve improved dramatically and I look forward to seeing your future fakes.
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~Crow~
09/02/2003 12:46 AM (UTC)
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Well, this is your best yet. You're going in the right direction, and by no means do you look like a lasy copy/paster, you always seem to do alot of editing. This is your first attempt at MK4 sprites, correct? Anyway, I'll get the the sprites in a moment, BG first. I tried to access the BMP version of this from your sharemation link, but the page is unavailable, make sure you have 'share' on. Anyway, I'll try to set the image quality of the jpg aside. Normally, those character pics would be to large, and cramp up the background, but you seem to have made a larger BG than normal. This isn't 395, 254... the regular size for a fake so it makes it a bit different. I do like what you did with the space though, the BG has enough elements in it to occupy the space. I'd still like the char pics smaller if possible though. Nothing wrong with the name texts, seems to be a good size. The timer should NOT read 99 though. Shadows are VERY nice this time, a huge improvement over the blocky ones you made in the past, very excellent indeed there. But I don't particularily like the "FIGHT" text, its just a bit odd looking, it really would be better to use a normal MK text.

The BG itself isn't too bad. But where do the top of the pillars connect? Its impossible to know, but to me the arena doesn't look like it has a roof so the pillars are unneccesary, something else should be put into their place. A fence perhaps, though its a bit overused. Anyway, I do like the fact you flipped the Shadow Priests, nice touch, better than having them both in the same position. The large 'orb' isn't so bad I suppose, its pretty decent.

Ok, well the sprite edit were a nice idea, and you didn't do to bad for your first try at MK4 sprites. Reiko's head is pretty good, though a small hair edit is necessary because its obvious that is Cage's hair. Also, as The_Red_Dragon mentioned, it would be wise to try and create your own poses. Its not too difficult really. Reiko DOES have spikes on his wrist, but I don't see them here. Other than the missing spikes, the gloves look fairly nice. The red is to dark as must all have mentioned, and the ninja suit isn't exactly like Reiko's costume. Okay, Kai needs a little work. The 'cap' you gave him does look fine, that's probably the closest you came to matching a specific part of him. Kai's 'stripes' have no color depth at all, and are to white to begin with. But, I do think I see his spiked wristbands, great job on that small detail. The face could use more work, because its still obviously Jax. Kai has a smoother complexion, Jax has a more rough look. I can see the sideburns you tried to add, seems like you spent a good deal of time on him. Also, the stripes on Kai's sides are at an angle, the ones you have made look more like rectangles to me. As for the cloth, you had the right idea, but it came out wrong. The cloth looks more 'sumo-like' as blacksaibot said, but you did have the right color for it. And the position seems correct as well, but his shoulder strap is a bit to wide, and unless you look closely, that loose cloth looks like its going between his legs, much like a sumo outfit does. You need to make it a little more 'loose' looking I think. It doesn't appeared to be centered, as it should be, it looks more off to the left side, in turn giving it the sumo effect.

Anyhow, this is probably your best work. I do remember your first submission, a simple copy/paste with Goro and some ninjas. You've come a long way faster than most have, you do have some talent. Keep heading in the right direction.
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Zentile
09/02/2003 10:06 AM (UTC)
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I didn't say it was Sumo like, BlackSaibot did.
Thanks for the credit, anyway.
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~Crow~
09/02/2003 10:34 AM (UTC)
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Edited.
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