Your Art Experience: How Much and How Long?
RaMeir Wrote:
Hey congratulations. Is it professional or student work. Either way that's a great portfolio builder. Good luck!
Thanks! Well, it is both, really.
First a little background:
The North Sea Jazz Festival has a tradition of having an artistic poster that can be bought at the festival.
Former posters were done like great artists like Karel Appel and big design studios like Studio Dumbar. This year they decided to make it a competition for students of the Royal Academy of Arts, The Hague.
The jury was made out of: The director of the Royal Academy, some teachers that are artists/designers/typographists themselves, and some P.R. people from the NSJ Festival.
My poster was choosen as winner and will therefor be reproduced in a rather large quantity. =)
Since it's something that was done via the Academy, and it was something that all the student had to attend to, I guess one could see it as student work.
But besides the great honor to be choosen as the designer of the new NSJ Festival poster (a job that a lot of artists/ design studios would want) it also made me free tickets to the festival (which are quite expensive) plus a bonus of 500 euros. So I guess that makes it so that I can count it as one of my professional jobs aswell.
-Acj
P.S. Ofcourse, I have a homepage aswell (one that changes completely every month or so). It has some student work and some random stuff that I did. You can also find the North Sea Jazz Festival poster there. To go to my homepage, click here.
Hey congratulations. Is it professional or student work. Either way that's a great portfolio builder. Good luck!
Thanks! Well, it is both, really.
First a little background:
The North Sea Jazz Festival has a tradition of having an artistic poster that can be bought at the festival.
Former posters were done like great artists like Karel Appel and big design studios like Studio Dumbar. This year they decided to make it a competition for students of the Royal Academy of Arts, The Hague.
The jury was made out of: The director of the Royal Academy, some teachers that are artists/designers/typographists themselves, and some P.R. people from the NSJ Festival.
My poster was choosen as winner and will therefor be reproduced in a rather large quantity. =)
Since it's something that was done via the Academy, and it was something that all the student had to attend to, I guess one could see it as student work.
But besides the great honor to be choosen as the designer of the new NSJ Festival poster (a job that a lot of artists/ design studios would want) it also made me free tickets to the festival (which are quite expensive) plus a bonus of 500 euros. So I guess that makes it so that I can count it as one of my professional jobs aswell.
-Acj
P.S. Ofcourse, I have a homepage aswell (one that changes completely every month or so). It has some student work and some random stuff that I did. You can also find the North Sea Jazz Festival poster there. To go to my homepage, click here.
The_Red_Dragon •04/26/2003 05:48 AM (UTC) •
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-Peace out, cubscout.
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Im not usually one to post on message boards, but this sounded interesting to me. Anyway, I have been drawing all my life (nearly 19 years). I think my earliest drawing, at least that I can remember, was of a space shuttle and its launching pad. Since then, I have gone from self-taught, to informal lessons, to a bit of a hiatus, now to academic art classes. For a while, my passion was drawing characters from the Mortal Kombat games. In fact, I had drawn MK4 images so much, there was nothing left for me to possibly draw (since nothing else really interested me) after the series lost is popularity. this is when my hiatus began. But now, I am going to school to earn a Bachelors in Fine Arts followed by a degree in psychology with the ultimate goal of a Masters in Art Therapy.
Peace out, cubscout.
By the way, for anyone curious about some of the drawings Ive done, check this site out. http://www.tygerlander.com/art/thundergod124/index.shtml Keep in mind that these are OLD drawings.
Peace out, cubscout.
By the way, for anyone curious about some of the drawings Ive done, check this site out. http://www.tygerlander.com/art/thundergod124/index.shtml Keep in mind that these are OLD drawings.
RamonSpoon- I agree with ya about close-minded patrons not appreciating style. But there are some counterarguments-
I don't consider myself an actual artist, nor plan to become one, but I have met dozens others both online and in drawling classes who are projecting down that path. In fact, a few of them already are well-established and have quite a reputation (ie. Crizl/Devil Kat, Ron Chan, and PMBQ from TZ, this one kid named 'Doug' from ARTS106).
A repeating obstacle an artist faces in their career is getting enough money to put food on the table. These artists I know constantly tell of how they've had to deal with assholes not paying for commisions, and companies turning down their work as too ranchy or distorted and whatnot. But, from my experiences, these people are exteremely talented. Sad thing is, even though style can get one noticed and give the art dictinctive air, it can also be limiting in habits and turn off some patrons/potential commissioners.
The other problem is that when one is commssioning art- those people whom one is drawling for are now clients, not just partons. One has to accommodate their requests, or ya simply don't get the pay you ask for and deserve.
Hell, even Crizl has a part-time job at a Starbucks and she still struggles a bit financially. It ain't easy conforming out there (which is also partly why I myself do NOT want to become an artist).
But that's not to say styles aren't appreciated at all. The issue surfaces when the styles restrict habits, and what was unique could become counterproductive.
Blah, typing too much. Great to read of everyone's backgrounds here. Makes the art forum more communal.
I don't consider myself an actual artist, nor plan to become one, but I have met dozens others both online and in drawling classes who are projecting down that path. In fact, a few of them already are well-established and have quite a reputation (ie. Crizl/Devil Kat, Ron Chan, and PMBQ from TZ, this one kid named 'Doug' from ARTS106).
A repeating obstacle an artist faces in their career is getting enough money to put food on the table. These artists I know constantly tell of how they've had to deal with assholes not paying for commisions, and companies turning down their work as too ranchy or distorted and whatnot. But, from my experiences, these people are exteremely talented. Sad thing is, even though style can get one noticed and give the art dictinctive air, it can also be limiting in habits and turn off some patrons/potential commissioners.
The other problem is that when one is commssioning art- those people whom one is drawling for are now clients, not just partons. One has to accommodate their requests, or ya simply don't get the pay you ask for and deserve.
Hell, even Crizl has a part-time job at a Starbucks and she still struggles a bit financially. It ain't easy conforming out there (which is also partly why I myself do NOT want to become an artist).
But that's not to say styles aren't appreciated at all. The issue surfaces when the styles restrict habits, and what was unique could become counterproductive.
Blah, typing too much. Great to read of everyone's backgrounds here. Makes the art forum more communal.
Heh. Too bad many traditional atrists would still be stuck :p
Oh, and I was very impressed at your accomplishments after reading, Acj. I know t'would be off-topic, but I myself would like to hear more of that year in Biomed study- since I'm aiming at a Biochem major myself ;)
Oh, and I was very impressed at your accomplishments after reading, Acj. I know t'would be off-topic, but I myself would like to hear more of that year in Biomed study- since I'm aiming at a Biochem major myself ;)
TLaG- Wrote:
Heh. Too bad many traditional atrists would still be stuck :p
What I really meant to say is that, as a "traditional artist" one could choose to use his/her talents and skills for graphic design.
I'm in no way saying that every artist should (or even could) make this choice, but it's a fact that I do make money with graphic design and not with "traditional art" (yet).
And I'm not alone in this, a lot of great artists here in the Netherlands like Karel Appel, Corneille, etc. use their art for graphic design and make a lot of money doing so.
Oh, and I was very impressed at your accomplishments after reading, Acj. I know t'would be off-topic, but I myself would like to hear more of that year in Biomed study- since I'm aiming at a Biochem major myself ;)
Thanks, anda... just drop me an e-mail so we can chat about art and science. ;)
-Acj
Heh. Too bad many traditional atrists would still be stuck :p
What I really meant to say is that, as a "traditional artist" one could choose to use his/her talents and skills for graphic design.
I'm in no way saying that every artist should (or even could) make this choice, but it's a fact that I do make money with graphic design and not with "traditional art" (yet).
And I'm not alone in this, a lot of great artists here in the Netherlands like Karel Appel, Corneille, etc. use their art for graphic design and make a lot of money doing so.
Oh, and I was very impressed at your accomplishments after reading, Acj. I know t'would be off-topic, but I myself would like to hear more of that year in Biomed study- since I'm aiming at a Biochem major myself ;)
Thanks, anda... just drop me an e-mail so we can chat about art and science. ;)
-Acj
I see where you are coming from now. Yes, in fact many artists I have met are pondering dipping into graphic design. I just surmised you only meant digital design, my bad.
In fact, a few designers I know are purely digital, and don't practice hand-medium extensively. They don't have to go hand-in-hand, but so much the better I guess. More outlets begats more revenue.
Hell, my high school Studio Art teacher was also a track coach and rented out appartements. He even put aside a whole class to inform us of the fiscal gains to be had in leasing out rooms :p
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"Thanks, anda... just drop me an e-mail so we can chat about art and science. ;)"
Will do 8)
In fact, a few designers I know are purely digital, and don't practice hand-medium extensively. They don't have to go hand-in-hand, but so much the better I guess. More outlets begats more revenue.
Hell, my high school Studio Art teacher was also a track coach and rented out appartements. He even put aside a whole class to inform us of the fiscal gains to be had in leasing out rooms :p
--
"Thanks, anda... just drop me an e-mail so we can chat about art and science. ;)"
Will do 8)
NovaStarr •05/01/2003 08:04 PM (UTC) •
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TemperaryUserName Wrote: ...the best solution is set an example.
Show some tolerance. Be a fucking leader.
1337...there is no 1337 none of us can be 1337 because we are all the same, we are all human. The sooner we realize that, the better off we'll be.
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Anybody else. I know there are more than this many people wandering around the forum
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