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Contradictive Flaw
01/02/2004 02:58 AM EST
i don't know if anyone noticed this or not but there is something thats been buggin me about MK:A.

ok,in the beginning of the movie when earthrealm is invaded by shao kahn we see raiden fight shao kahn for a couple of minutes,then later in the movie we see raiden confronting the elder gods about him helping the earth's warriors and sacrificing his immortality to fight along side them.now,please correct me if i'm wrong but when he fought kahn didn't he already break the sacred rule of not interfering and if so why did he go through the trouble of turning to a mortal when it seems like the gods didn't care about him fighting kahn or his minions to begin with.confused
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RE: Contradictive Flaw
12/23/2003 10:27 AM EST
Yeah, "Please, Elders, take away my awesome powers so I can go and get killed for no reason". The movie's full of stupid shit, but this is a nice example.

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RE: Contradictive Flaw
12/23/2003 10:33 AM EST
Rayden needed to become mortal in order to (I assume) become strong and fight well. I mean, as a god, his powers were quickly leaving him.

Why do you think in Mk the first movie, he didn’t fallow Liu Kang and Johnny Cage into Outworld to save Sonya? I think its clear he cant really do anything there.

But yes, MKA was a bad movie, but still, I enjoy it.
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RE: Contradictive Flaw
12/23/2003 12:47 PM EST
i don't know if anyone noticed this or not but there is something thats been buggin me about MK:A.

ok,in the beginning of the movie when earthrealm is invaded by shao kahn we see raiden fight shao kahn for a couple of minutes,then later in the movie we see raiden confronting the elder gods about him helping the earth's warriors and sacrificing his immortality to fight along side them.now,please correct me if i'm wrong but when he fought kahn didn't he already break the sacred rule of not interfering and if so why did he go through the trouble of turning to a mortal when it seems like the gods didn't care about him fighting kahn or his minions to begin with.


You've made a good point there. It was a stupid thing in the movie that didn't seem to make sense. It was also another indication that the script was not proof-read. I think that's a good nitpick you should submit to the Nitpickers webiste.



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RE: Contradictive Flaw
12/26/2003 04:59 AM EST
I agree. Also, anyone remember Rayden/Raiden saying something about because the dragon tatoo flew off Cyrax that meant he was not part of the family. Then at the end the dragon flies off Kahn.

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RE: Contradictive Flaw
12/28/2003 08:50 PM EST
That whole thing with the flying tatoo's was idiotic
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RE: Contradictive Flaw
12/31/2003 06:37 AM EST
- Maybe since Raiden and Shao Kahn are brothers, then Raiden is allowed to fight him and him alone.

- I think the reason the dragon flew off of Shao Kahn is because Shinnok was no longer an Elder God, Shao Kahn didn't have the right to wear it anymore. Neither would Raiden, except the Elder Gods granted him the rights to keep it. See, this is what I think of as Shao Kahn LOSING his "permanent pass", not like the other guys who just has "temporary passes".

Anyway, I'm not defending the movie, I'm just pointint out that logically these 2 points are OK.

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RE: Contradictive Flaw
12/31/2003 03:25 PM EST

]0MBAT Wrote:
- Maybe since Raiden and Shao Kahn are brothers, then Raiden is allowed to fight him and him alone.

- I think the reason the dragon flew off of Shao Kahn is because Shinnok was no longer an Elder God, Shao Kahn didn't have the right to wear it anymore. Neither would Raiden, except the Elder Gods granted him the rights to keep it. See, this is what I think of as Shao Kahn LOSING his "permanent pass", not like the other guys who just has "temporary passes".

Anyway, I'm not defending the movie, I'm just pointint out that logically these 2 points are OK.



1.that would still contradict the rules set down by the elder gods.and remember,raiden was about to vanquish shao kahn's warriors even though they aren't of any relation to raiden.

2.speakin of shinnok,if he was an elder god and broke all the rules,wouldn't he be able to open the portals to earthrealm since the elder gods didn't forsake him for his treachery from the beginning.if so,then it was pointless to introduce sindel.

3.as for the tatoo,raiden said that it was a PERMANENT family crest that only direct relatives of shinnok can bear.now as for the other characters, they were not apart of that family so the tatoo disappeared when they died(also stated by raiden).
also,when raiden died,the crest did not fly off him nor did shinnok.

since i haven't watched the movie in awhile,all that i wrote is from memory so feel free to correct me.smile
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RE: Contradictive Flaw
12/31/2003 05:30 PM EST
The tatoo stuff was bad writing to try to force Raiden to admit he was family with Kahn. It was poorly done.

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RE: Contradictive Flaw
12/31/2003 11:21 PM EST

jagerx2k Wrote:
i don't know if anyone noticed this or not but there is something thats been buggin me about MK:A.

ok,in the beginning of the movie when earthrealm is invaded by shao kahn we see raiden fight shao kahn for a couple of minutes,then later in the movie we see raiden confronting the elder gods about him helping the earth's warriors and sacrificing his immortality to fight along side them.now,please correct me if i'm wrong but when he fought kahn didn't he already break the sacred rule of not interfering and if so why did he go through the trouble of turning to a mortal when it seems like the gods didn't care about him fighting kahn or his minions to begin with.


1) As soon as Kahn and Shinnok broke through Earthrealms barriers, the rules didn't apply any more. Nightwolf said it best, "The tournament had rules, this time anyhing goes." Raiden chose to fight knowing this.

2) From the begining of the movie, Raiden's "mortalty," his life, was on the line. In his human form he is suseptable to a fatal wounds, meaning he can die. He could have been kiled at the hands of Kahn in the begining, but he was stronger. The only thing that was on the line were his powers.

I loved this movie simply because it was MK, but hated it because when they made it, they didn't care one bit about the fans or MK it's self. the Shabby editing and story proves it.

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RE: Contradictive Flaw
01/01/2004 07:28 PM EST

asmodeus Wrote:
jagerx2k Wrote:
i don't know if anyone noticed this or not but there is something thats been buggin me about MK:A.

ok,in the beginning of the movie when earthrealm is invaded by shao kahn we see raiden fight shao kahn for a couple of minutes,then later in the movie we see raiden confronting the elder gods about him helping the earth's warriors and sacrificing his immortality to fight along side them.now,please correct me if i'm wrong but when he fought kahn didn't he already break the sacred rule of not interfering and if so why did he go through the trouble of turning to a mortal when it seems like the gods didn't care about him fighting kahn or his minions to begin with.

1) As soon as Kahn and Shinnok broke through Earthrealms barriers, the rules didn't apply any more. Nightwolf said it best, "The tournament had rules, this time anyhing goes." Raiden chose to fight knowing this.

2) From the begining of the movie, Raiden's "mortalty," his life, was on the line. In his human form he is suseptable to a fatal wounds, meaning he can die. He could have been kiled at the hands of Kahn in the begining, but he was stronger. The only thing that was on the line were his powers.

I loved this movie simply because it was MK, but hated it because when they made it, they didn't care one bit about the fans or MK it's self. the Shabby editing and story proves it.



so if he was slowly losing his powers in the beginning,why didn't he use his powers while he still had them instead of wiping away his powers completely.also,if he was suseptible to fatal wounds what was the point in turning into a complete mortal?it still seems so pointless.

now,if anything went in the tournament then that would make the trip raiden took to the elder gods completely unimportant and,once again,pointless.
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RE: Contradictive Flaw
01/01/2004 10:49 PM EST

jagerx2k Wrote:
so if he was slowly losing his powers in the beginning,why didn't he use his powers while he still had them instead of wiping away his powers completely.also,if he was suseptible to fatal wounds what was the point in turning into a complete mortal?it still seems so pointless.


I'm sorry but, are you slow or something? Raiden didn't wipe his powers away, he didn't choose to do that. He lost them during the merger of the realms, the same way Shao Kahn lost his. Remember Shinnok warning him that there would be "consequenses" for breaking the sacred rules. And he WAS using his powers when he had them. In the fight with Kahn, he created a portal and threatend to take Kahn's generals. He didn't kill Kahn because they were brothers and he could bring himself to do that.

jagerx2k Wrote:

now,if anything went in the tournament then that would make the trip raiden took to the elder gods completely unimportant and,once again,pointless.


The tournament had rules, anything went in the invasion! Raiden went to the elder gods to find out why they allowed Kahn to enter earthrealm. Why was that piontless and unimportant?

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RE: Contradictive Flaw
01/02/2004 02:58 AM EST
We shouldn't waste our energies on a movie this bad...
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