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Heinrich_Faust
04/18/2019 06:08 AM (UTC)
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Goro, the dude has his arms and him losing them is never mentioned.

Scorpion being unique to the other revenant's. In the game that's all he was and had no special bond with hellfire or any kind of dual personality. Once he was human he had no hellfire abilities.

The constant mistakes regarding the Osh-Tekk and their skin.

There are other issues but I can't be bothered to go back and read that pile.

1. WRONG, Goro is not in MKX story mode, nothing contradicts comics.

2. I'm not sure what are you trying to say here.

3. What was wrong with Osh-Tekk and their skin??

Still waiting for at least one contradiction in MKX.

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04/18/2019 10:12 AM (UTC)
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I think the comics is not canon cuz they messed up.

They're confirmed canon, no matter what you think.

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that MKX and this game contradict 90% of everything that happened in that comic.

This game - definitely. MKX? What was wrong with it regarding comics?

To mention just a few things.

Goro, the dude has his arms and him losing them is never mentioned.

Scorpion being unique to the other revenant's. In the game that's all he was and had no special bond with hellfire or any kind of dual personality. Once he was human he had no hellfire abilities.

The constant mistakes regarding the Osh-Tekk and their skin.

There are other issues but I can't be bothered to go back and read that pile.

Goro is a pre-order character and did not appeared in the MKX story mode.

What's your point? That doesn't make his appearance any less canonical.

Yes it does, Goro's appearance in MKX is non-canon.

That's not necessarily true.

This could be Goro BEFORE he got his arms cut off. People should be more careful when using the word "canon" and it's contrary.

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04/18/2019 12:01 PM (UTC)
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Goro, the dude has his arms and him losing them is never mentioned.

Scorpion being unique to the other revenant's. In the game that's all he was and had no special bond with hellfire or any kind of dual personality. Once he was human he had no hellfire abilities.

The constant mistakes regarding the Osh-Tekk and their skin.

There are other issues but I can't be bothered to go back and read that pile.

1. WRONG, Goro is not in MKX story mode, nothing contradicts comics.

2. I'm not sure what are you trying to say here.

3. What was wrong with Osh-Tekk and their skin??

Still waiting for at least one contradiction in MKX.

1. Prove me wrong. How does that in anyway make his appearance illegitimate. Tremor didn't show up either, dude is still canon. Rain and Skarlet weren't in the story mode of MK9. Are we just going to call them phantom non canon characters as well

2. I'm saying his lore doesn't line up. In the comic he isn't just a revenant. He's unique, he is imbued with the power of hellfire and he still has his hellfire abilities once he's made mortal again along with having a rage Scorpion persona because of it.

In MKX, once he's human he no longer has his hellfire abilities. He's as human as Sonya.

3. Osh-Tekk in the comic are blue skinned people, in the game continuity, it's body paint.

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lastfighter89
04/18/2019 12:10 PM (UTC)
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People focusing on minor details forgetting about Ermac constant face about with Mileena and Kotal ...

Yes there contradictions between the comics and the game but this doesn't make characters non-canon. The magic word is "retcon".

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04/18/2019 12:16 PM (UTC)
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People focusing on minor details forgetting about Ermac constant face about with Mileena and Kotal ...

Yes there contradictions between the comics and the game but this doesn't make characters non-canon. The magic word is "retcon".

When it's happening right alongside the development of the game story it's a inconsistency, and that which is established in the game trumps anything from other forms of media.

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04/18/2019 01:01 PM (UTC)Edited 04/18/2019 01:20 PM (UTC)
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Goro, the dude has his arms and him losing them is never mentioned.

Scorpion being unique to the other revenant's. In the game that's all he was and had no special bond with hellfire or any kind of dual personality. Once he was human he had no hellfire abilities.

The constant mistakes regarding the Osh-Tekk and their skin.

There are other issues but I can't be bothered to go back and read that pile.

1. WRONG, Goro is not in MKX story mode, nothing contradicts comics.

2. I'm not sure what are you trying to say here.

3. What was wrong with Osh-Tekk and their skin??

Still waiting for at least one contradiction in MKX.

1. Prove me wrong. How does that in anyway make his appearance illegitimate. Tremor didn't show up either, dude is still canon. Rain and Skarlet weren't in the story mode of MK9. Are we just going to call them phantom non canon characters as well

2. I'm saying his lore doesn't line up. In the comic he isn't just a revenant. He's unique, he is imbued with the power of hellfire and he still has his hellfire abilities once he's made mortal again along with having a rage Scorpion persona because of it.

In MKX, once he's human he no longer has his hellfire abilities. He's as human as Sonya.

3. Osh-Tekk in the comic are blue skinned people, in the game continuity, it's body paint.

1. I don't have to prove anything to you. HE IS NOT IN THE STORY, period. He can look whatever the developers like. Just as with Tremor. He looked like in the comics, yes, but he could have looked differently, nobody would give a single fuck about it. Dude, you're seriously mixed about bear LOOK and the factual EXISTENCE of certain characters. Rain and Skarlet were absent, yet it was never stated they don't exist or non-canon. Same with Goro. He was added with a different look, but he was absent from the story, so just any look would do.

2. Where did you get this from, "no hellfire abilities in MKX"??? Just because he avoided to use it doesn't mean he didn't have any!

3. Explain yourself where do you see they are blue and where not. We see only Kotal family in the comics, and then in MKX only outworlders under Kotal's command that just have traditional Osh-Tekk armor and tribal painting to honor his people that are now GONE.

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04/18/2019 02:24 PM (UTC)
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I'm just here to say why Hsu Hao was terrible, for me, since people wondered why he's disliked. He's boring. He reminded me of a lesser Kano. His moveset was boring. His look was boring. His fatalities were lame. And he didn't bring anything to the table. His ending was fucking stupid. And coming into the fray with characters as interesting as Frost, Drahmin and Mavado really hurt.

He's a shit character. Sorry

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04/18/2019 05:10 PM (UTC)Edited 04/18/2019 05:21 PM (UTC)
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I think the comics is not canon cuz they messed up.

They're confirmed canon, no matter what you think.

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that MKX and this game contradict 90% of everything that happened in that comic.

This game - definitely. MKX? What was wrong with it regarding comics?

To mention just a few things.

Goro, the dude has his arms and him losing them is never mentioned.

Scorpion being unique to the other revenant's. In the game that's all he was and had no special bond with hellfire or any kind of dual personality. Once he was human he had no hellfire abilities.

The constant mistakes regarding the Osh-Tekk and their skin.

There are other issues but I can't be bothered to go back and read that pile.

Goro is a pre-order character and did not appeared in the MKX story mode.

What's your point? That doesn't make his appearance any less canonical.

Yes it does, Goro's appearance in MKX is non-canon.

That's not necessarily true.

This could be Goro BEFORE he got his arms cut off.

"Could" is bullshit. That's you making an assumption based on nothing concrete. If Goro's appearance was canon- his appearance would've been noted in the actual story- where it matters. Like Shao Kahn in MK11.

And the comics aren't truly canon either.

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04/18/2019 05:18 PM (UTC)Edited 04/18/2019 05:26 PM (UTC)
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I think the comics is not canon cuz they messed up.

They're confirmed canon, no matter what you think.

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that MKX and this game contradict 90% of everything that happened in that comic.

This game - definitely. MKX? What was wrong with it regarding comics?

To mention just a few things.

Goro, the dude has his arms and him losing them is never mentioned.

Scorpion being unique to the other revenant's. In the game that's all he was and had no special bond with hellfire or any kind of dual personality. Once he was human he had no hellfire abilities.

The constant mistakes regarding the Osh-Tekk and their skin.

There are other issues but I can't be bothered to go back and read that pile.

Goro is a pre-order character and did not appeared in the MKX story mode.

What's your point? That doesn't make his appearance any less canonical.

Yes it does, Goro's appearance in MKX is non-canon.

What's your evidence other than a heavily contradicted comic book? Because he didn't show up in the story mode? Does that make Tremor non canon as well? The video games are the rule here not the outside material.

I'm not basing this on the comics, I take those as nothing but outside fluff. I AM taking the video game itself into consideration and based on that- no, Goro's appearance is not canon otherwise it would've been noted in story mode. Story mode is what matters.

And yes, Tremor's appearance may be non-canon as well. Compare that to Tanya and Bo 'Rai Cho, two DLC characters who WERE in story mode- their appearances were canon. Same with Shao Kahn in MK11.

If it's not noted in the story- then the character's appearance is non-canon unless the subsequent game disputes that- which MK11 isn't looking like it will.

Goro's MKX bio is basically a recap of what we've known about him since 1992 and his ending is him ruling over Outworld as Emperor with Kotal and everyone else at his feet. Do you see Emperor Goro in MK11?

So let's recap-

1) Not in the actual story.

2) Leaves absolutely no impact.

3) Given a foggy "What If?" ending that has already been proven to not have happened

Yeah. Non-canon.

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04/20/2019 08:27 PM (UTC)
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Even MK11 acknowledges comics as canon:

Kitana's and Skarlet's dialogue: Kitana: "Mileena took you legs,didn't she?" Skarlet: "She tried,but I saved them." Kitana: "If she could beat you,I certainly shall."

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04/20/2019 11:45 PM (UTC)
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Even MK11 acknowledges comics as canon:

Kitana's and Skarlet's dialogue: Kitana: "Mileena took you legs,didn't she?" Skarlet: "She tried,but I saved them." Kitana: "If she could beat you,I certainly shall."

Lol and then the game comes out and says Shao Kahn killed Drahmin so...I guess Quan Chi didn't? Not to be too antagonistic but, are you sure you want to keep going with this dude?

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04/20/2019 11:47 PM (UTC)
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Even MK11 acknowledges comics as canon:

Kitana's and Skarlet's dialogue: Kitana: "Mileena took you legs,didn't she?" Skarlet: "She tried,but I saved them." Kitana: "If she could beat you,I certainly shall."

And Kotal Kahn says about his bloody battle with Goro.

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04/20/2019 11:52 PM (UTC)
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I think the comics is not canon cuz they messed up.

They're confirmed canon, no matter what you think.

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that MKX and this game contradict 90% of everything that happened in that comic.

This game - definitely. MKX? What was wrong with it regarding comics?

To mention just a few things.

Goro, the dude has his arms and him losing them is never mentioned.

Scorpion being unique to the other revenant's. In the game that's all he was and had no special bond with hellfire or any kind of dual personality. Once he was human he had no hellfire abilities.

The constant mistakes regarding the Osh-Tekk and their skin.

There are other issues but I can't be bothered to go back and read that pile.

Goro is a pre-order character and did not appeared in the MKX story mode.

What's your point? That doesn't make his appearance any less canonical.

Yes it does, Goro's appearance in MKX is non-canon.

What's your evidence other than a heavily contradicted comic book? Because he didn't show up in the story mode? Does that make Tremor non canon as well? The video games are the rule here not the outside material.

I'm not basing this on the comics, I take those as nothing but outside fluff. I AM taking the video game itself into consideration and based on that- no, Goro's appearance is not canon otherwise it would've been noted in story mode. Story mode is what matters.

And yes, Tremor's appearance may be non-canon as well. Compare that to Tanya and Bo 'Rai Cho, two DLC characters who WERE in story mode- their appearances were canon. Same with Shao Kahn in MK11.

If it's not noted in the story- then the character's appearance is non-canon unless the subsequent game disputes that- which MK11 isn't looking like it will.

Goro's MKX bio is basically a recap of what we've known about him since 1992 and his ending is him ruling over Outworld as Emperor with Kotal and everyone else at his feet. Do you see Emperor Goro in MK11?

So let's recap-

1) Not in the actual story.

2) Leaves absolutely no impact.

3) Given a foggy "What If?" ending that has already been proven to not have happened

Yeah. Non-canon.

Every character bio is a basic summary of what we have known about them since the game they appeared in.

Every character had a foggy what if ending.

A DLC character not being in story mode doesn't make their appearance any less canonical or valid.

Just because I don't see emperor Goro in MK11 it doesn't mean Goro wasn't around with all four arms during the period of MKX.

We'll never get a clear answer because as we have seen, time travel shenanigans fucked Goro over.

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04/21/2019 08:47 AM (UTC)
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Even MK11 acknowledges comics as canon:

Kitana's and Skarlet's dialogue: Kitana: "Mileena took you legs,didn't she?" Skarlet: "She tried,but I saved them." Kitana: "If she could beat you,I certainly shall."

Lol and then the game comes out and says Shao Kahn killed Drahmin so...I guess Quan Chi didn't? Not to be too antagonistic but, are you sure you want to keep going with this dude?

Don't make me laugh (again). Shao killed living Drahmin and Quan Chi killed the demonic one.

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04/21/2019 06:26 PM (UTC)
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I think the comics is not canon cuz they messed up.

They're confirmed canon, no matter what you think.

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that MKX and this game contradict 90% of everything that happened in that comic.

This game - definitely. MKX? What was wrong with it regarding comics?

To mention just a few things.

Goro, the dude has his arms and him losing them is never mentioned.

Scorpion being unique to the other revenant's. In the game that's all he was and had no special bond with hellfire or any kind of dual personality. Once he was human he had no hellfire abilities.

The constant mistakes regarding the Osh-Tekk and their skin.

There are other issues but I can't be bothered to go back and read that pile.

Goro is a pre-order character and did not appeared in the MKX story mode.

What's your point? That doesn't make his appearance any less canonical.

Yes it does, Goro's appearance in MKX is non-canon.

What's your evidence other than a heavily contradicted comic book? Because he didn't show up in the story mode? Does that make Tremor non canon as well? The video games are the rule here not the outside material.

I'm not basing this on the comics, I take those as nothing but outside fluff. I AM taking the video game itself into consideration and based on that- no, Goro's appearance is not canon otherwise it would've been noted in story mode. Story mode is what matters.

And yes, Tremor's appearance may be non-canon as well. Compare that to Tanya and Bo 'Rai Cho, two DLC characters who WERE in story mode- their appearances were canon. Same with Shao Kahn in MK11.

If it's not noted in the story- then the character's appearance is non-canon unless the subsequent game disputes that- which MK11 isn't looking like it will.

Goro's MKX bio is basically a recap of what we've known about him since 1992 and his ending is him ruling over Outworld as Emperor with Kotal and everyone else at his feet. Do you see Emperor Goro in MK11?

So let's recap-

1) Not in the actual story.

2) Leaves absolutely no impact.

3) Given a foggy "What If?" ending that has already been proven to not have happened

Yeah. Non-canon.

Every character bio is a basic summary of what we have known about them since the game they appeared in.

Every character had a foggy what if ending.

A DLC character not being in story mode doesn't make their appearance any less canonical or valid.

Just because I don't see emperor Goro in MK11 it doesn't mean Goro wasn't around with all four arms during the period of MKX.

We'll never get a clear answer because as we have seen, time travel shenanigans fucked Goro over.

We don't need a clear answer because we already have one.

And no, not every character's MKX bio is a recap of what we know about them.

Why are you fighting me so hard on this?

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Tevron
04/21/2019 07:24 PM (UTC)
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Hsu Hao is lame as hell, but they're worst characters than him.

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