Kollector Debuts in Mortal Kombat 11 Reveal Trailer
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04/06/2019 05:18 AM EST
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Who’s the sub-boss this time around? Shao Kahn? Geras? Kollector?

I'm wondering myself. It seems either everyone's got a personal sub-boss, there is no sub-boss... or they might not reveal the sub-boss.
Maybe Motaro is back as a real Centaur instead of a two-legged Centaur :).

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04/06/2019 05:27 AM EST
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Hm... which Sub Boss? Shao Kahn? No. Kollector? No. Geras? Yes! Why? He serves Khronika and is formed by her. It makes more sense than Shao Kahn or Kollector.

Here is a backgroundinfo about Kollector:

"A new fighter joining the Mortal Kombat franchise, The Kollector was born into poverty and seized his collections duty with a zeal that impressed Shao Kahn, becoming one of the Emperor's most feared associates. As more of a corrupt, mafia enforcer than a government official, The Kollector stole riches from Outworld's people, rewarding himself with wealth and status in turn, but when Shao Kahn died, Kotal Kahn vowed to weed out the former regime's corruption. After years in hiding, living off his ill-gotten gains, The Kollector was captured and now faces execution, determined to destroy anyone in his path."

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04/06/2019 05:31 AM EST
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Who’s the sub-boss this time around? Shao Kahn? Geras? Kollector?

I'm wondering myself. It seems either everyone's got a personal sub-boss, there is no sub-boss... or they might not reveal the sub-boss.
Maybe Motaro is back as a real Centaur instead of a two-legged Centaur :).

I thought Geras was supposed to be the sub-boss.

Shao Kahn would also make sense.

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04/06/2019 06:02 AM EST
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Not bad but I wouldn't say I'm super impressed either. Something is missing, there's no "wow" factor about him. Cetrion is a more original new character imo. Also, I hate it when new characters "borrow" old ones' fatalities.

What is your opinion regarding Scorpion's UMK3 giant skeleton hand being stolen by Shinnok and becoming his entire theme?

Scorpion had a revenge though when he stole the original Sub-Zero's fatality in Deception.

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04/06/2019 06:17 AM EST
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Not bad but I wouldn't say I'm super impressed either. Something is missing, there's no "wow" factor about him. Cetrion is a more original new character imo. Also, I hate it when new characters "borrow" old ones' fatalities.

What is your opinion regarding Scorpion's UMK3 giant skeleton hand being stolen by Shinnok and becoming his entire theme?

Scorpion had a revenge though when he stole the original Sub-Zero's fatality in Deception.

To be fair... that fatality is how he died!

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04/06/2019 07:30 AM EST
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I thought Geras was supposed to be the sub-boss.

Shao Kahn would also make sense.

Don't think it was ever said Geras or Shao Kahn are sub-boss. I think some just assume they are because Geras seems Kronika's right hand guy and Shao Kahn was a boss-character in the past.

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04/06/2019 07:59 AM EST
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I thought Geras was supposed to be the sub-boss.

Shao Kahn would also make sense.

Don't think it was ever said Geras or Shao Kahn are sub-boss. I think some just assume they are because Geras seems Kronika's right hand guy and Shao Kahn was a boss-character in the past.

That's why those two make sense to me. I don't think anyone else really fits.

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04/06/2019 08:10 AM EST
04/06/2019 08:12 AM EST
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Something tells me Kollector might pull a "D'Vorah" and betray Kahn but even that is pretty redundant.

He comes off more like a cool concept they thought of years ago and finally got the opportunity to shove him in.

Him "fitting" MK doesn't automatically make him a good character.

Ehh... the way Brownback was talking about him, he sounded like a pretty staunch loyalist, and it was presented as a trait that set him apart from pretty much everyone else in Outworld. If that's what makes him stand out, I think they're likely to keep him that way.

I'm awfully curious how the imperial tax collector fits into the time travel story.

Perhaps he may be an interesting addition then. Kahn actually having a 100% loyal soldier. I think that may actually be refreshing especially if they follow through with it and doesn't have him switching allegiances to whoever's in power like Reptile.

The fact Kollector was in hiding while Kotal was in power definitely shatters my former assumption. Hmm...maybe he might be interesting. Like I said, I like him and I think he's cool- I just needed to know more of his role.

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04/06/2019 09:00 AM EST
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I thought Geras was supposed to be the sub-boss.

Shao Kahn would also make sense.

Don't think it was ever said Geras or Shao Kahn are sub-boss. I think some just assume they are because Geras seems Kronika's right hand guy and Shao Kahn was a boss-character in the past.

That's why those two make sense to me. I don't think anyone else really fits.

To me, those 2 would be a "downer" for me as a sub-boss. Shao Kahn just because he would be "degredated" in a way (like Shang Tsung from MK1 to MKII) and Geras just because he's just "regular". I don't know, I always want the sub-bosses to be something "special"/unique about them. Like Goro was, like Kintaro was, like Motaro was,... Something that is instantly visible, something grand.

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04/06/2019 09:29 AM EST

Geras is sub-boss I think. He is a robot who learns from how he dies each time and can't be killed like that again when he regenerates... slowly regenerating his way to immortality and invulnerability

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04/06/2019 09:49 AM EST
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I had the weirdest dream about Kollector...(Why in the hell I was dreaming about him, I have no idea)

But in my weird dream he actually had something to do with the Cyber Initiative and he also had a cyborg skin/variation. His second fatality had him commanding an army of subordinate cyborgs to bomb his opponent into bloody bits.

Yeah, I have no idea why I'm sharing this but if it ends up meaning something in the future then I might be encouraged to go play the lotto.

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04/06/2019 10:48 AM EST
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I thought Geras was supposed to be the sub-boss.

Shao Kahn would also make sense.

Don't think it was ever said Geras or Shao Kahn are sub-boss. I think some just assume they are because Geras seems Kronika's right hand guy and Shao Kahn was a boss-character in the past.

That's why those two make sense to me. I don't think anyone else really fits.

To me, those 2 would be a "downer" for me as a sub-boss. Shao Kahn just because he would be "degredated" in a way (like Shang Tsung from MK1 to MKII) and Geras just because he's just "regular". I don't know, I always want the sub-bosses to be something "special"/unique about them. Like Goro was, like Kintaro was, like Motaro was,... Something that is instantly visible, something grand.

Well, Shao Kahn is in the game and a big part of the story, being one of Kronika's main enforcers. He's not the big boss; so he's either a sub-boss or a standard combatant. If you think being a sub-boss is insulting to the character; would it not be even more insulting to make him less than that?

From what we know of Geras, he's essentially MK's version of DC's Doomsday. Being able to come back more resiliant each time. They could play on that in the arcade ladder and get creative: What if you had to beat him two or three times and each time he got harder or certain moves didn't work; or if we go with his time abilities what if you had to run the clock down to zero, but it only went down when Geras takes damage while going up when he damages the player?!

Without having any big monster characters like Goro, Motaro, or Moloch; Geras and Shao Kahn are the biggest and baddest characters on the roster. And MK games have had more "regular" sub-bosses in the past with Quan Chi in the arcade version of MK4; Noob-Smoke in Deception; and Shang Tsung in MK(2011).

I'm all for bringing back Motaro though, as long as he was a proper centaur and not some gimped cyber-minotaur. But that'll probably never happen.

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04/06/2019 11:17 AM EST

Is anybody besides me getting classic Killer Instinct vibes from this new guy? Definitely looks to be the best new character in this game.

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04/06/2019 11:40 AM EST

I'm pretty sure Geras was said to be a sub-boss by someone on the team, a long ass time ago; maybe it was during the Kombat Kast that covered him, or an early interview, but I swear I remember hearing it on some official channel or other.

Shao Kahn could also be a sub-boss, though. Goro was in MKX despite being the preorder character, and MKA and MK9 both played around with having multiple sub-bosses.

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04/06/2019 01:31 PM EST

I respect those who like him but i honestly don ́t like him, he is strange, pure evil, so barbarian and a shokan copy. My opinion.

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04/06/2019 01:33 PM EST
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I respect those who like him but i honestly don ́t like him, he is strange, pure evil, so barbarian and a shokan copy. My opinion.

No argument, but since when is "pure evil" a bad thing in Mortal Kombat?

Even most of the "good" characters in Mortal Kombat are really just lighter shades of evil. Haha

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04/07/2019 04:34 AM EST
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I thought Geras was supposed to be the sub-boss.

Shao Kahn would also make sense.

Don't think it was ever said Geras or Shao Kahn are sub-boss. I think some just assume they are because Geras seems Kronika's right hand guy and Shao Kahn was a boss-character in the past.

That's why those two make sense to me. I don't think anyone else really fits.

To me, those 2 would be a "downer" for me as a sub-boss. Shao Kahn just because he would be "degredated" in a way (like Shang Tsung from MK1 to MKII) and Geras just because he's just "regular". I don't know, I always want the sub-bosses to be something "special"/unique about them. Like Goro was, like Kintaro was, like Motaro was,... Something that is instantly visible, something grand.

Well, Shao Kahn is in the game and a big part of the story, being one of Kronika's main enforcers. He's not the big boss; so he's either a sub-boss or a standard combatant. If you think being a sub-boss is insulting to the character; would it not be even more insulting to make him less than that?

From what we know of Geras, he's essentially MK's version of DC's Doomsday. Being able to come back more resiliant each time. They could play on that in the arcade ladder and get creative: What if you had to beat him two or three times and each time he got harder or certain moves didn't work; or if we go with his time abilities what if you had to run the clock down to zero, but it only went down when Geras takes damage while going up when he damages the player?!

Well, strangely enough, to me, no. Shao Kahn being a regular fighter would just mean he's fighting for his spot again. Being a sub-boss gives the message "I'm listening to someone else". And Shao Kahn listens to nobody and takes everything with brute force.

That would actually be a cool way to fight Geras. And that he would be able to block everything previously used (maybe with a timer) in a same way. Forcing players to constantly change their tactics.
I think something like this is also described in Geras' bio.

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04/07/2019 08:14 PM EST

I thought Raiden is the sub-boss this time around.

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04/07/2019 09:41 PM EST
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I'm pretty sure Geras was said to be a sub-boss by someone on the team, a long ass time ago; maybe it was during the Kombat Kast that covered him, or an early interview, but I swear I remember hearing it on some official channel or other.

Shao Kahn could also be a sub-boss, though. Goro was in MKX despite being the preorder character, and MKA and MK9 both played around with having multiple sub-bosses.

You're correct. One of the interviews from the MK11 reveal day stated that Geras is the sub-boss. He's big, he's mean and he's Kronika's right hand man. He ticks all the boxes.

The Kollector is the best new addition this time around. I love his design, I love his loyalty to Shao Kahn, I love that he's so gleeful in his violence and he definitely has shades of Gollum to him.

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04/07/2019 09:44 PM EST

The precious!

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04/07/2019 10:53 PM EST

Reminds me of larfleeze

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04/08/2019 04:42 AM EST

My precious........let's steal Mileenas Fatality? Yes my precious !

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04/08/2019 03:37 PM EST

Am I the only one to find it ironic that people are complaining a character who's main theme is greed, avarice, hoarding, and stealing - "stole a fatality" from another character? XD

Also, has anyone seen Shazam yet?
In the movie .... spoilers, btw.... one of the deadly sins; Greed, looks very similar to Kollector, with his extra limbs, and even attacks a person in a similar fashion to Kollector's fatality. Wonder if NRS knew about it and were inspired by it.

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04/08/2019 03:47 PM EST
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My precious........let's steal Mileenas Fatality? Yes my precious !

LOL, well at least he's not eating any of it. That's something. :P

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04/08/2019 03:47 PM EST
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Am I the only one to find it ironic that people are complaining a character who's main theme is greed, avarice, hoarding, and stealing - "stole a fatality" from another character? XD

Also, has anyone seen Shazam yet?
In the movie .... spoilers, btw.... one of the deadly sins; Greed, looks very similar to Kollector, with his extra limbs, and even attacks a person in a similar fashion to Kollector's fatality. Wonder if NRS knew about it and were inspired by it.

I haven't, but if it's what you're thinking, then it's ironic that Kollector is the new guy people think looks most like a Mortal Kombat character, and doesn't look too much like an Injustice concept.

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