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Zero_Jade
01/30/2016 01:50 PM (UTC)
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Any/all of them could return. I don't think story relevance is all that important looking at MKX's roster, where characters that had virtually no impact on the story are playable. It's popularity that counts, and most were received well.

The only one I would be fairly surprised to be back is Ferra/Torr as they came off as a bit bland in the end, they suffer from being fairly irrelevant AND unpopular.

I know Jacqui was not hugely liked at first but she seems to be growing in popularity, and a bit of a design upgrade could fix that. Erron, Takeda and Cassie remain hugely popular picks online with Kung Jin (my personal favourite of the bunch) and Kotal also up there. Although she appears incapacitated at the end of the story mode D'Vorah is liked enough to return for the next game. Anything could happen really!
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KungLaodoesntsuck
01/31/2016 06:55 PM (UTC)
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The_TooCool_Master Wrote:
You guys are pretty quick to dismiss Ferra/Torr, but why? The previous games have had their fair share of enforcers that didn't contribute to the story, and the way they fight is very original. I can see them getting tweaked, but not removed.


Ferra/Torr is the Sheeva of MKX.

Character that's interesting and adds a unique flavor, an enforcer, next to no one uses them.
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Tazer_Gunshot
02/02/2016 03:57 AM (UTC)
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All except for Ferra/Torr and Erron Black. Unless they take Ferra/Torr's ending as canon when she's fully grown and gets a buddy to ride on her back. Can seriously do without Erron Black.
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Warbro666
02/02/2016 06:03 AM (UTC)
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Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
All except for Ferra/Torr and Erron Black. Unless they take Ferra/Torr's ending as canon when she's fully grown and gets a buddy to ride on her back. Can seriously do without Erron Black.


I'm not a huge fan of Erron Black either but I can guarantee he will be back next game. Sonic Fox uses him and he has probably the strongest fan base of all the newcomers.

It's a shame that not many people like Ferra/Torr because they're actually interesting and fun. They, along with D'Vorah, help fill that weird, wacky and wonderful creature niche that MK has always had.
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KenshiMaster16
02/02/2016 06:07 AM (UTC)
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The simple fact is they've never, ever carried over every single newbie into the next game so I don't think they will this time. And who makes it all depends on where they go with the story.

If Outworld plays a big part then Kotal Kahn, Erron Black and maybe Ferra/Torr will return.

As for the Earthrealm newbies, I expect whoever doesn't make it will at least cameo. I don't expect any of them to go without showing up in some capacity but I doubt all of them will be playable. Maybe 3 of the 4 max.
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Tazer_Gunshot
02/02/2016 02:46 PM (UTC)
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Warbro666 Wrote:
Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
All except for Ferra/Torr and Erron Black. Unless they take Ferra/Torr's ending as canon when she's fully grown and gets a buddy to ride on her back. Can seriously do without Erron Black.


I'm not a huge fan of Erron Black either but I can guarantee he will be back next game. Sonic Fox uses him and he has probably the strongest fan base of all the newcomers.

It's a shame that not many people like Ferra/Torr because they're actually interesting and fun. They, along with D'Vorah, help fill that weird, wacky and wonderful creature niche that MK has always had.


He may have a strong fan-base, but just because Sonic Fox uses him, doesn't mean he will return.
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Warbro666
02/02/2016 08:26 PM (UTC)
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Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
Warbro666 Wrote:
Tazer_Gunshot Wrote:
All except for Ferra/Torr and Erron Black. Unless they take Ferra/Torr's ending as canon when she's fully grown and gets a buddy to ride on her back. Can seriously do without Erron Black.


I'm not a huge fan of Erron Black either but I can guarantee he will be back next game. Sonic Fox uses him and he has probably the strongest fan base of all the newcomers.

It's a shame that not many people like Ferra/Torr because they're actually interesting and fun. They, along with D'Vorah, help fill that weird, wacky and wonderful creature niche that MK has always had.


He may have a strong fan-base, but just because Sonic Fox uses him, doesn't mean he will return.


He's popular in the competitive scene because of Sonic Fox. After he won Evo I saw a big surge of Erron Black players aping the way he used him in the tournament. NRS values their top competitive players a lot, just saying, Kung Lao came back from death because of the competitive scene.

But Kabal was overlooked, so yeah, maybe not.
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Dantesd94
02/12/2016 09:31 PM (UTC)
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History Development is what drives character selection, combine that with character request and you have the formula to decide a viable roster character.

Thats why iconic characters like Kung Lao, Kitana, Liu Kang can ́t be left out, because of their historic importance and Huuuuuge Fan base. Other characters have a lot of fans and competetive value like Kabal and even Rain (God a lot of people was asking for rain) but they where reduce to Cameos and Non playble NPCs just because, story wise, they needed a spot for newcomers.

MK11 Story can evolve in bunch of diferent Ways. With eartrealm invading outworld and Netherrealm invading earthrealm at the same time, and that with the Dragon King or Blaze raising up in the back.

With that said I see a few of the newbies with an almost certain spot:

-Cassie: Posible new Main hero (ughh) but with her victory over Shinnok, he is a must to face new threats.

-Takeda: Argubly, the main character of the comics, and Champion material, i was suprised how little was his role in MKX tho, His personality wasn ́s as strong as in the comics, but is a succesfull adition to MK that needs further development.

-Kotal Khan: New emperor, maybe a viable oponent for the dark raiden plot, Liu Kang invasion and Shag stung resurectión. Also strong foe for the posible rise of the Dragon King, old emperor of his realm.

No so shure of:

-Kung Jin: The first Gay character in MK, also sees like a way to remove some characters from the netherrealm side, not as shure of this one, Especiale with some klasic and 3D era caharcters begging for a spot in the future roster. He could be an NPC, with a mayor role like Tanya or Rain. But i could se he fullfilling his ending. Helping Kung Lao scape from the netherrealm and aiding in the resurection/defeat of Liu Kang and Kitana.

-Erron Black: For his presence in the competitive scene, he gain a huuuuge fan base, also his arquetipe seems to fit pretty well in the MK lore. Emperor Kotal needs a lot of work behind the shadows if he is gonna succes in defending outworld. Erron seems to be the man.

-Jacquie: I thin they want to make Cassie and her the new over the top duo. Not as good as or inconic as Liu and Kung, Kitana and Jade or the new aliance of Sub and scorpion. Honestly she is for me the less original character of the newbies. Nothing really special besides being Jax Daugther . She could be a Oracle like NPC, reporting the special forces situation status, and would be just fine for her.
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Thatoneguy
02/13/2016 09:25 AM (UTC)
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The only one I can see having trouble getting back in is Ferra-Torr.
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Nephrite
02/13/2016 09:45 AM (UTC)
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My guess is everyone but Ferra/Torr and Jacqui.
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Onaga
02/14/2016 04:29 AM (UTC)
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All of them along with all the vets from MKX and the vets from MK 2011 that were nonsensically excluded.

I'm tired of this cherry picking characters shit.

Stick with the roster and steadily build upon it with three new characters (or reintroduced reinvented characters) per game. That way we won't find ourselves and the total cluster fuck of characters we did by time MK Armageddon came around.

And don't give me the "but what do they add to the story?" Who cares? The story doesn't matter, especially when it comes to the freaking roster. MKX's roster proves that. Otherwise we wouldn't have a hellspawn Scorpion wielding fire, a nonsensically aged Liu Kang, or living Kung Lao and Kitana, or Goro with all of his arms intact. Also...hello Triborg.

Also I don't get the hate fucking Jacqui is getting...boring design sure. But everyone in MKX had a bad to boring design so what?

But then again...this fanbase rarely has rational logic for why they dislike or like a character so...
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02/14/2016 01:49 PM (UTC)
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Onaga Wrote:
All of them along with all the vets from MKX and the vets from MK 2011 that were nonsensically excluded.

I'm tired of this cherry picking characters shit.

Stick with the roster and steadily build upon it with three new characters (or reintroduced reinvented characters) per game. That way we won't find ourselves and the total cluster fuck of characters we did by time MK Armageddon came around.

And don't give me the "but what do they add to the story?" Who cares? The story doesn't matter, especially when it comes to the freaking roster. MKX's roster proves that. Otherwise we wouldn't have a hellspawn Scorpion wielding fire, a nonsensically aged Liu Kang, or living Kung Lao and Kitana, or Goro with all of his arms intact. Also...hello Triborg.

Also I don't get the hate fucking Jacqui is getting...boring design sure. But everyone in MKX had a bad to boring design so what?

But then again...this fanbase rarely has rational logic for why they dislike or like a character so...


Some people just don't like Jacqui. Its not hard to understand.
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02/14/2016 02:51 PM (UTC)
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I think all the kids have a strong chance to come back, with Cassie having the strongest. Kotal is the emperor of out world so has a good chance and will probably bring erron black with him. Not sure about dvorah or ferra/torr. Dvorah's story leaves her in a lurch while ferra/torr were not touched upon much.
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02/14/2016 10:16 PM (UTC)
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Considering NRS's track record for cutting new characters, I predict only three characters advancing, those three being the ones who are most popular.

Right now, I see the three being D'Vorah, Cassie Cage, and Takeda.
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Sub-Zero_7th
02/16/2016 02:29 PM (UTC)
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I think all of the newcomers will return in the next main MK title, but they need to be better explored and utilized.
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02/16/2016 11:42 PM (UTC)
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When they say that Ferra / Torr has no chance to come back you say you have to wait more about the history of them, and SKARLET?

hypocrites
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CODE_umb87
02/17/2016 12:35 AM (UTC)
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I have a hard time believing NRS is gonna make room for all the MKX newbies seeing as how they are clearly not gonna let go of the vet characters, plus there will most likely be another batch of newbies next game. People should know already half of the MKX newbies are gonna go MIA. We've seen it plenty of times before don't know why some people actually believe these characters are gonna replace the staples of the series.
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Onaga
02/17/2016 01:59 AM (UTC)
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CODE_umb87 Wrote:
I have a hard time believing NRS is gonna make room for all the MKX newbies seeing as how they are clearly not gonna let go of the vet characters, plus there will most likely be another batch of newbies next game. People should know already half of the MKX newbies are gonna go MIA. We've seen it plenty of times before don't know why some people actually believe these characters are gonna replace the staples of the series.


We just keep hoping for once NRS has learned from their mistakes and won't repeat them. But ...fuck you're right, half these characters are going to be shelved.
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SneakyLizard
02/17/2016 03:36 AM (UTC)
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johnny1up Wrote:
I think we're gonna be losing quite a few trilogy characters after this game, which will open more spaces for MKX returnees. I think it's highly possible that Sonya, Johnny, and Kenshi will be retiring, as it was hinted at by Johnny in the story mode (something along the lines of "us older guys are gonna retire someday"). I also think Jax will go back into retirement as well. These characters all have offspring and I think this game was a kind of passing of the torch to the new generation.

I also wouldn't expect to see Shinnok, Quan Chi, or possible Mileena, as they all died in the story mode (or exist as a severed head flopping like a fish out of water) and their plot relevence was also brought to a conclusion.

Assuming we lose those characters, I think we'll get a pretty substantial amount of MKX newbies back. I think we'll get at least three of the four offspring characters back and if my assumption about the older guys leaving is true, I think a few more of their elder's moves integrated. I would say Takeda and Cassie Cage are shoe-ins, while Jacqui and Kung Jin may be one or the other. I'd like all four of them back though.

I think Kotal Kahn will also make it back in because of his relevance, being the emperor of Outworld now and because of his generally warm reception from fans (thanks a lot to the comics, and not so much the last few chapters of story mode). If one character is to get in based on their design and voice alone, I think it would be Erron Black. I'm not gonna lie, he didn't do much story-wise, but he is badass!

D'vorah I feel mixed about. On one hand, her main purpose was to betray Kotal and free Shinnok, and she fulfilled that role. But she was captured and all she worked for was squashed (no pun intended). But her huge story presence and the fact that she killed two previously established MK characters makes me think she's a studio favorite and they want to keep her.

The one character, or should I say characters that I'd be surprised to see back is Ferra/Torr. I really see them as a big boring brick wall of a character and an annoying little imp. They had hardly any story relevance and they don't seem to have a major fan following, except for my one friend who always seems to fixate on the characters I like the least.

I think it's possible for NRS to cut down the roster to make it 16 MKX returnees, just by getting rid of the characters who are retiring or got killed off. The rest of the next MK's roster could consist of some more newbies, a few trilogy characters who missed out on this game for reasons unknown (Cyrax, Jade), and a few post-trilogy characters. They could easily go 2 from trilogy, three from post-trilogy, and four new and that would match the roster count of MKX, which I'd call a modest estimate.

I agree with Jade returning, but Cyrax, on the other hand, is doubtful, since he died in the comics. I really hope Cyrax doesn't stay dead forever. His death came completely out of nowhere to me. Sure, Sektor had it coming for obvious reasons, but killing off Cyrax was stupid. How can he get revived? That's my only question.
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SneakyLizard
02/17/2016 03:38 AM (UTC)
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All of them, and here is my theory why ...

Every "generation" of MK ended up having a mega all star game. The original 2d games had Trilogy , the 3D games had Armeggedon, so I think the next MK is basically going to be the trilogy / Armageddon of the 2.5d games and it's all because of Injustice 2.

WB is going to want to cash in on MK again before this console cycle is over. With NRS working on Injustice 2 right now, chances are the game won't release until Spring 2017, and there is no way NRS will go back to the drawing board and reinvent MK all over again at the end of this console generation.

What they can do is take MKX's engine and existing models/animations. Throw togather 6 new stages and maybe 12 new characters and make a new game out of it.

But do you want the series to end up like Call of Duty? I sure don't. Also, this is no longer "Midway, we're going bankrupt".
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SneakyLizard
02/17/2016 03:41 AM (UTC)
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Onaga Wrote:
All of them along with all the vets from MKX and the vets from MK 2011 that were nonsensically excluded.

I'm tired of this cherry picking characters shit.

Stick with the roster and steadily build upon it with three new characters (or reintroduced reinvented characters) per game. That way we won't find ourselves and the total cluster fuck of characters we did by time MK Armageddon came around.

And don't give me the "but what do they add to the story?" Who cares? The story doesn't matter, especially when it comes to the freaking roster. MKX's roster proves that. Otherwise we wouldn't have a hellspawn Scorpion wielding fire, a nonsensically aged Liu Kang, or living Kung Lao and Kitana, or Goro with all of his arms intact. Also...hello Triborg.

Also I don't get the hate fucking Jacqui is getting...boring design sure. But everyone in MKX had a bad to boring design so what?

But then again...this fanbase rarely has rational logic for why they dislike or like a character so...

I also think they should ditch the variations. Some like Goro's Tigrar Fury and Kitana's Mournful variation were just added as stupid excuses to leave certain characters out (in this case, Kintaro and Jade).
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