As a sub-boss, why not include The Predator this time?
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07/29/2010 09:14 AM EST
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No.

No.

No.

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And more No.

First off, Predator is not from Outworld LOL. He's an alien, from another planet, that hunts other creatures for sport. Humans, Xenomorphs and likely other things. Why would he give two shits about Earth Realm being invaded by Shao Kahn? He wouldn't. He might hunt and take Shao Kahn's skull as a trophy, but he won't, because the idea is lame. Sorry, but it really is. Predator does not fight with martial arts. He shoots things with a shoulder cannon, he uses the burning net, he has the hand claw, and he uses the disc, the trip mines etc.
Keep Mortal Kombat as Mortal Kombat.

Leave the sci fi monsters to the sci fi monsters.

Seeing two of my favorite franchises clash would turn them both to shit, when they don't make sense together.


Oh God, ok SORRY. Again, Outworld is MK fictional yes but in the end it means creatures outside the earth! Why you all take terms so seriously? I was just trying to find a way to make his story fit, Outworld is the best place for him in MK.

Concerning the story between Predator and MK in my opinion could happen for his available potentials that I already mentioned, I also already mentioned that the story thing is going to be up to MK team not me. Why did u create a lame story of ur own? There could be much better. It could be possible to give him a story in MK since he's outside earth and a gory character.

I disagree that his special moves and weapons can't fit in MK, the ones u mentioned above are quite good to fit in MK with some modifications.

I guess what mostly bothers most of you is that any franchise can not and should not interfere with MK again.
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07/29/2010 09:15 AM EST
First off, everybody calm down about this. Let's not get carried away here with bashing. Polite disagreements are fine, let's not have it degrade to name calling or other insults.
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When you say my "idea" is dumb, it means the Predator and its merge are dumb too. Don't you think? Else, be more specific. So u indirectly sounded that the MK first merge idea was not appropriate too.

Just because he does not like your idea of merging Predator with MK does not mean he thinks that Predator is dumb, just that Predator does not belong in MK. And just because he does not like your merge idea does not mean he won't like somebody else's merge idea. He has every right to an opinion as much as you do. You want Predator. He does not. That's it, that's all.
Just because it has MK themes does not mean that it will blend well with MK.
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07/29/2010 09:37 AM EST
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First off, everybody calm down about this. Let's not get carried away here with bashing. Politely disagreements are fun, let's not have it degrade to name calling or other insult.
MK2US Wrote:
When you say my "idea" is dumb, it means the Predator and its merge are dumb too. Don't you think? Else, be more specific. So u indirectly sounded that the MK first merge idea was not appropriate too.

Just because he does not like your idea of merging Predator with MK does not mean he thinks that Predator is dumb, just that Predator does not belong in MK. And just because he does not like your merge idea does not mean he won't like somebody else's merge idea. He has every right to an opinion as much as you do. You want Predator. He does not. That's it, that's all.
Just because it has MK themes does not mean that it will blend well with MK.


First of all thanks for your support.

If you go back to his replies:

1- He first said that it's dumb to include Predator as a sub-boss. And indirectly underestimated my IQ.
WHY? Because I like Predator to be in, what does that have to do with dumbness and IQ?? It's a matter of taste and opinion, nothing else. And I gave some reasonable propositions, it's not like I was saying well I like Mikey Mouse and I want him to be in MK!!!! Got the point? Oh, and he proposed on me one of MK sub-bosses, well some people prefer a new sub-boss.

2- Then he judged that I was saying that if there was a DC Universe merge with MK before that there MUST be another merge, and this time with Predator. It was not the case!!!!! I was only proposing that "why not" doing another merge with Predator this time!
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07/29/2010 10:33 AM EST
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Jerrod Wrote:
First off, everybody calm down about this. Let's not get carried away here with bashing. Politely disagreements are fun, let's not have it degrade to name calling or other insult.
MK2US Wrote:
When you say my "idea" is dumb, it means the Predator and its merge are dumb too. Don't you think? Else, be more specific. So u indirectly sounded that the MK first merge idea was not appropriate too.

Just because he does not like your idea of merging Predator with MK does not mean he thinks that Predator is dumb, just that Predator does not belong in MK. And just because he does not like your merge idea does not mean he won't like somebody else's merge idea. He has every right to an opinion as much as you do. You want Predator. He does not. That's it, that's all.
Just because it has MK themes does not mean that it will blend well with MK.


First of all thanks for your support.

If you go back to his replies:

1- He first said that it's dumb to include Predator as a sub-boss. And indirectly underestimated my IQ.
WHY? Because I like Predator to be in, what does that have to do with dumbness and IQ?? It's a matter of taste and opinion, nothing else. And I gave some reasonable propositions, it's not like I was saying well I like Mikey Mouse and I want him to be in MK!!!! Got the point? Oh, and he proposed on me one of MK sub-bosses, well some people prefer a new sub-boss.

2- Then he judged that I was saying that if there was a DC Universe merge with MK before that there MUST be another merge, and this time with Predator. It was not the case!!!!! I was only proposing that "why not" doing another merge with Predator this time!


1. When did I say you're dumb because you like Predator?
2. I have no problems with opinions, it just bothers me a little when some peoples' opinions seem too, for lack of a better word, pretty dumb.
3. Pointing fingers and whining doesn't really make good impressions on people.
4. "Oh, and he proposed on me one of MK sub-bosses, well some people prefer a new sub-boss." .........What? I don't understand this sentence please explain.
5. "Then he judged that I was saying that if there was a DC Universe merge with MK before that there MUST be another merge, and this time with Predator." ..............explain this to me too, please.

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07/29/2010 02:14 PM EST
Why not include the predator as a sub-bos? Well maybe for all of these reasons.

1. They have to get buy the predator license.
2.MK9 is supposed to be back to it's roots.
3.It would be a cheap gimmick.
4.It wouldn't make any sense to the story.
5.Predators prefer stealth over using martial arts.
6.There are way better choices for cross over characters.
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07/29/2010 04:12 PM EST
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Why not include the predator as a sub-bos? Well maybe for all of these reasons.

1. They have to get buy the predator license.
2.MK9 is supposed to be back to it's roots.
3.It would be a cheap gimmick.
4.It wouldn't make any sense to the story.
5.Predators prefer stealth over using martial arts.
6.There are way better choices for cross over characters.


My answers:

1. Does "20th Century Fox" now have a team for creating their 3D games too? I don't think so. "Rebellion" team bought the Predator franchise to make the "Aliens vs Predator" game, then y not MK team propose on them some money to allow the merge?!? They already did something like that with MK vs DC, isn't it?

2. Ok, MK9 supposed to go back to its roots, we got that long time ago and we also knew that there'll be NEW characters introduced in MK9, why not including the Predator??

3. A cheap gimmick? Well that's ur opinion, I don't think so cuz Predator really fits in so it won't be cheap.

4. A story is simply a STORY, anyone can make it look right or wrong. And Predator already is from outside earth and his will is to destroy humans on earth, doesn't MK have a story like that too??????

5. Oh plz, they can modify the Predator abilities/powers or special moves and weapons like they did with the DC Universe characters, not all the DC Universe characters moves and special moves were used in their movies and comic books, they created some moves that fit them!!!!!! It's a game u know.

6. That's ur opinion again, and I'd like u to give me the names of those characters and see if everyone would accept them in MK9.
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07/29/2010 04:32 PM EST
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07/29/2010 04:43 PM EST
WB is trying to revitalize MK. They're bringing it back to its roots, which means they're sticking to MK and MK only. They ventured away from that with MKvDC, so we don't need to continue that with The Predator. Plus, was the Predator in MK1-3? I don't think so. So he won't be in MK9.

So if it's an MK game, and not a crossover, there shouldn't be any other characters besides MK ones. Also, what does the Predator have to do with MK? Why would HE be a sub-boss? And the creators of Predator have stated that they want to keep away from crossovers for the time being aswell.

Basically to sum it up, this game is aimed at being somewhat like a MK Trilogy remake, so it will have all the traits of the classic MKs to help bring things back to the old days. The Predator would be completely out of place.
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07/29/2010 04:51 PM EST
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1. When did I say you're dumb because you like Predator?
2. I have no problems with opinions, it just bothers me a little when some peoples' opinions seem too, for lack of a better word, pretty dumb.
3. Pointing fingers and whining doesn't really make good impressions on people.
4. "Oh, and he proposed on me one of MK sub-bosses, well some people prefer a new sub-boss." .........What? I don't understand this sentence please explain.
5. "Then he judged that I was saying that if there was a DC Universe merge with MK before that there MUST be another merge, and this time with Predator." ..............explain this to me too, please.



READ BELOW, it's clear enough.

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This is one of the dumbest ideas for a sub-boss I've ever heard.

I hope this is some kind of an elaborate joke.


Well this is my opinion, if u don't like it simply don't reply, easy. Also, I might find ur sub-boss dumb too.


My sub-boss is dumb? I didn't even give an idea you idiot. I'm just saying that this idea is one of the worst. C'mon ... Predator? You could pick Motaro, Kintaro, Goro, but Predator?!

Wow, it's amazing to see the variety of IQs this site.



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MK2US Wrote:
What does my merge opinion has to do with IQ?? It's a merge idea that already happened with DC Universe. So you mean that MK team IQ is not good too. Don't you?

And I prefer to use Google search for other important things. Concerning seeing Predator movie that lead me to this idea that's wrong, mainly it was the game as I mentioned here.

Anyway, guys I really don't need to hear ur negative thoughts, plz don't reply on my topic cuz I don't care too.

If u have something negative or an advice at least reply in a decent and civilized manner. People like u usually wait for topics that doesn't interest them and start insulting others, I bet ur negative comments are more than the positive ones on that forum.

Again, don't reply if that bothers you.

Thank youuuuu


You made this thread for opinions didn't you? Well, you're hearing them.

Just because there was MK vs DC doesn't mean the MK team will start looking for other universes to make a vs game with. I never said anything about the MK team's IQ so I have no idea where you got that from.

There, I replied with no negativity.


PLZ spare me wz ur games. And u forced me to point at u.
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07/29/2010 04:53 PM EST
double posts, sorry
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07/29/2010 05:01 PM EST
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WB is trying to revitalize MK. They're bringing it back to its roots, which means they're sticking to MK and MK only. They ventured away from that with MKvDC, so we don't need to continue that with The Predator. Plus, was the Predator in MK1-3? I don't think so. So he won't be in MK9.

So if it's an MK game, and not a crossover, there shouldn't be any other characters besides MK ones. Also, what does the Predator have to do with MK? Why would HE be a sub-boss? And the creators of Predator have stated that they want to keep away from crossovers for the time being aswell.

Basically to sum it up, this game is aimed at being somewhat like a MK Trilogy remake, so it will have all the traits of the classic MKs to help bring things back to the old days. The Predator would be completely out of place.


I proposed Predator as a new character since it is said that there'll be a room for new characters. Now if he's a crossover character or not, he's still considered new to MK. I respect ur opinion and mine was only a proposition and wanted to see if some people would like the Predator sub-boss idea to be applied in MK9 or not.
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07/29/2010 05:13 PM EST
Seems like it's a No on the Predator idea. You gotta respect the likes and the dislikes ya know. Honestly though, the Cyber Ninjas are close enough to the Predator design already, that's good enough.
I did suggest in another thread that WB owns Freddy and Jason. They sure as hell fit better than Superheroes. Just don't build some bullshit story around it. That MK vs DC story was BAD. No offense to anyone. I think that's why not enough people agree on guest characters. The story just gets to be stupid.
One of my favorite older fighting games was Tekken 3. The game had a huge roster, and there were super unlockable characters. I remember unlocking a little dinosaur. Gon or Gan something like that. I played as a piece of Tofu in Resident Evil 2. Also, I unlocked Wolverine in Tony Hawk Pro Skater. The best games out there have always had amazing unlockables, it keeps you wanting to play more. If they added Jason into the roster, I'd be happy as hell. I'm not the only one either.
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07/29/2010 05:15 PM EST
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I proposed Predator as a new character since it is said that there'll be a room for new characters. Now if he's a crossover character or not, he's still considered new to MK. I respect ur opinion and mine was only a proposition and wanted to see if some people would like the Predator sub-boss idea to be applied in MK9 or not.



It would be cool to see the Predator in MK, but I don't think he belongs in MK9 and he shouldn't be in it. But it's definately a cool idea. In fact, I wouldn't mind a Predator being a super unlockable in a future MK, just not a Sub-boss in MK9.
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07/29/2010 05:22 PM EST
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Seems like it's a No on the Predator idea. You gotta respect the likes and the dislikes ya know. Honestly though, the Cyber Ninjas are close enough to the Predator design already, that's good enough.
I did suggest in another thread that WB owns Freddy and Jason. They sure as hell fit better than Superheroes. Just don't build some bullshit story around it. That MK vs DC story was BAD. No offense to anyone. I think that's why not enough people agree on guest characters. The story just gets to be stupid.
One of my favorite older fighting games was Tekken 3. The game had a huge roster, and there were super unlockable characters. I remember unlocking a little dinosaur. Gon or Gan something like that. I played as a piece of Tofu in Resident Evil 2. Also, I unlocked Wolverine in Tony Hawk Pro Skater. The best games out there have always had amazing unlockables, it keeps you wanting to play more. If they added Jason into the roster, I'd be happy as hell. I'm not the only one either.


Ok no big deal for not accepting the Predator as a sub-boss. And I thought that sub-bosses have less stories importance than MK characters and the boss, it seems that even though some people are very interested in the sub-bosses stories.

All I wanted is a decent no, is that too much to ask for? Now after all the mess that happened on this topic I doubt that someone will have the courage to say yes for the Predator as sub-boss, lol.

Thx for ur support.
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07/29/2010 05:28 PM EST
I agree with what others have said about WB trying to bring MK back into the spotlight again, and I just dont think that adding characters from other games and movies is going to help them achieve that.

Now im not bashing your idea but it just would not make since to have the most Feared Hunters in the galaxy in the Mortal Kombat Universe.


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07/29/2010 05:38 PM EST
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I agree with what others have said about WB trying to bring MK back into the spotlight again, and I just dont think that adding characters from other games and movies is going to help them achieve that.

Now im not bashing your idea but it just would not make since to have the most Feared Hunters in the galaxy in the Mortal Kombat Universe.


I loved that sentence "...the most Feared Hunters in the galaxy..." grin straight to the point.

"...WB trying to bring MK back into the spotlight again..." ok let it be then.
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07/29/2010 06:00 PM EST
With these kind of threads, I always wonder where the people are who like MK for what it is.

First of all, MK vs DC was a shit idea to begin with. Crossing over two really different worlds. They already lost many original MK fans with the later MKs, pushing them even more away with MK vs DC.

So to your Predator idea: "NO"... . Actually, "No" to any character from a movie or another game. This is MK! And for once let MK be MK again.
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07/29/2010 06:27 PM EST
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With these kind of threads, I always wonder where the people are who like MK for what it is.

First of all, MK vs DC was a shit idea to begin with. Crossing over two really different worlds. They already lost many original MK fans with the later MKs, pushing them even more away with MK vs DC.

So to your Predator idea: "NO"... . Actually, "No" to any character from a movie or another game. This is MK! And for once let MK be MK again.


I'm an MK fan since 1993, meaning since the first MK release which
is MK1.

Predator is soooooooo different than DC Universe, cuz Predator has potentials from his fighting skills, gory killings, and story to be in MK without changing ANYTHING in the game. Plus, it's only 1 character and I'm proposing him as a sub-boss and usually sub-bosses stories are not that important in MK, they are mostly the boss's bodyguard.

Now if people are not willing to take the risk of involving a merge thing idea in MK anymore even if it fits, then this is a different issue. It seems u r one of them and I respect that, ok?
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07/29/2010 06:29 PM EST
This thread is actually happening. Nice
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07/29/2010 07:35 PM EST
Sub Bosses ARE vital to the story. You must not be paying attention.

Goro - Champion of Mortal Kombat, Shokan Prince who eventually becomes one of the good guys, only to be turned bad after dying.

Kintaro - Shokan and loyal to Goro, looking for payback.

Motaro - Centaur and Kahn's General

Moloch - One of the demon things that was pretty much hell bent on stopping Scorpion by Quan Chi's beckoning.

Yeah. No story AT. ALL.
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07/29/2010 09:34 PM EST
Wait what? Predators destroy humans? Dude, I am a fan of both franchises, and they do not "destroy", they "hunt".

Its like going out killing deer for the hell of it when its not even deer hunting season.

As for the idea, NO. Plain and simple. Like the others said in the past few posts, Fox and Warner Bros. had a legal issue a while back, and
I'm not sure that would make them agree to make it happen.

Also, MKvsDC was just for fan service...really bad fan service, but that's not the point.

Predator as a "bodyguard" does not fit AT ALL, they are hunters, not contract protection. This idea would not only destroy what fans it has for MK, but for the Predator fan base also.

If you really want this to happen, then write fan fiction about it.
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07/30/2010 12:53 AM EST
are you serious?.....Bowser has a better chance
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07/30/2010 12:56 AM EST
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are you serious?.....Bowser has a better chance


Ha I doubt that even more.....


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07/30/2010 02:11 AM EST
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Sub Bosses ARE vital to the story. You must not be paying attention.

Goro - Champion of Mortal Kombat, Shokan Prince who eventually becomes one of the good guys, only to be turned bad after dying.

Kintaro - Shokan and loyal to Goro, looking for payback.

Motaro - Centaur and Kahn's General

Moloch - One of the demon things that was pretty much hell bent on stopping Scorpion by Quan Chi's beckoning.

Yeah. No story AT. ALL.


I guess Goro was the only sub-boss interesting story, as for the rest they were somehow plain. Especially after MK3 the sub-bosses stories started to decline and became repetitive in a way or another and easy to beat.
Maybe it's time to include a famous character like the Predator as a sub-boss in order to revive the sub-boss powers and story. If not in MK9, in future MK.
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07/30/2010 02:45 AM EST
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Wait what? Predators destroy humans? Dude, I am a fan of both franchises, and they do not "destroy", they "hunt".

Its like going out killing deer for the hell of it when its not even deer hunting season.

As for the idea, NO. Plain and simple. Like the others said in the past few posts, Fox and Warner Bros. had a legal issue a while back, and
I'm not sure that would make them agree to make it happen.

Also, MKvsDC was just for fan service...really bad fan service, but that's not the point.

Predator as a "bodyguard" does not fit AT ALL, they are hunters, not contract protection. This idea would not only destroy what fans it has for MK, but for the Predator fan base also.

If you really want this to happen, then write fan fiction about it.
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Even better, so if the Predator leaves Shao Khan there'll be a reason in the story why he did that and he's out from MK in the next generations, since your hunting theory proves that the Predator is selfish and moody. And isn't the act of hunting or killing people lead to the same point, which is enjoying the death of humans?

Concerning the legal issue I apologize for that, I didn't know. But even though it still might be possible, when there's good plan and money $$$ most of the business people forget their rivalries wink

The Predator as a "bodyguard" was just MY theory, but it could be more than that, like allying with Shao Khan for exterminating humans...don't know. I can't provide u with a fiction story and I already mentioned it's up to MK team, someone can do that here instead of just complaining all the time. Once a good fiction story is set I guess both MK & Predator fans will be glad to see that happening cuz the rest FIT, stop saying or ignoring the fact that the Predator character doesn't fit in MK! The only lack now is his story with MK as a sub-boss, and sub-boss is supposed to be important u know, the BOSS word is included.