yea i miss the black eyes too they made him look so much less human and more like demon

The black eyes and the thinner look from MK2 go best. While I love the original costume though, I'm thinking something like his armor from MKvsDC would look good on him as well. Basically a mix of the 2 and DC. He looked like crap in MK4, and in Deception/Armageddon he was nothing more than a muscular moron. He kind of reminded me of Chunk from the Goonies. HEY YOU GUUUUUYYYYYSSSSS!!!!

Ugh....and he was on of my favorites.

Nobody saidhow he actually got the staples, maybe he just got sliced, not in half, just really deep.

Way I look at it is Reptile's race having incredible longevity not unlike the Edenians themselves. I think he's been working for Kahn a really, really long time, and was part of the initial Edenian invasion. That's where I saw the charges of genocide originating from...not that it matters much if the Mk4 comic isn't actually canon. That's a question to pop to Vogel at some point.

Oh...and sign me up as one of those who would like to have Baraka's staples be the result of a fatal or near-fatal attack by Kung Lao. Was always a fan of the look.

As much I liked the Black Eyes if Mileena is anything to go by He'll have Yellow eyes as well.

Speaking of Baraka Does anyone have a picture of those Random Tarkatans from Subbie's combo video?

staples are awesome (alt maybe?)
(btw your sig is awesome)

Ugh...I'm sick of every race besides humans having crazy elf-like lifespans.

It's way more likely that Reptile is young and doesn't even remember what Zaterra was like, which is why he's always learning new **** like "Kahn enslaved us? Kahn made us go extinct? We used to use these "Kirehashi" swords?" If he was old enough be there when these things happened and to remember them, he wouldn't need to discover any of this during the games, he'd already know it.

All the super-old characters like Raiden and Kitana and Bo' Rai Cho are never the learners of things, they're as wise as their millenia of experience would dictate, and already gained all the info before the games start and tell it to others.

baraka has a fresh look in every game, i dont expect anything less from this game. thou if i had to choose i would choose mk vs dc look with the mkd cloths.

I didn't say he was around at the time of Zaterran society's near extinction; I only said he might have been around for the Edenian invasion, circa 10,000 years or so ago.

I don't believe it's specified when exactly Zaterra was overthrown by Kahn. The Saurians' emigration to Zaterra seems to predate human presence on Earth, and going by the first appearance of Homo Sapiens - say a little over 500,000 years ago - that leaves plenty of time for Zaterra to be populated, enjoy life for a little while, then get taken by Kahn. Reptile could have been born at any time after that, and be taken into Kahn's service with time to become a competitor and participant in a number of invasions afterwards. There's a lot of room to work with.

Considering that his MK4 bio says he's been responsible for the death of millions - genocide against several species - it really implies to me he's been killing in Kahn's name for quite some time now.

It can work either way.

No it doesn't. The Saurians moved to Zaterra because of the first Raiden/Shinnok war.

Humans helped Raiden fight during that war, built the temple to hide the amulet in after it ended, and eventually became the Shaolin Order of Light.

And according to Armageddon, Shao Kahn was already at war with Edenia BEFORE Shinnok turned evil.

Okay, I know why they emigrated, but out of curiosity, where was it stated humans actually helped Raiden fight during the war? I know they were called together and helped him build the temple afterwards, thought the war was a strict god-on-god type of deal. I've probably forgotten.

Anyway, even if the Saurians don't predate humans, and with the Armageddon-given date (Christ, that fucking game...) for the longstanding status of the Edenian war in consideration, Zaterran civilization can still be considered to have taken root 'thousands of years ago'. Somewhere between then and now, Kahn took them over. Perhaps the Zaterrans were slowly repopulating, and Kahn was able to spare a paltry number of his forces to easily take their realm while the war with Edenia was going on. Reptile can still be a few thousand years old, have no knowledge of his prior civilization, and have plenty of time to commit tons of atrocities in Kahn's name, taking out packets of Edenian resistance, or some such thing, even if he wasn't part of the initial takeover circa 10,000 years ago.

On-topic:

I still maintain that Baraka is the only character in MK who has absolutely no need of real plot development. I consider him content enough to fight for the strongest conqueror there is. Rawr.

Hrmm...rereading the exact text of Mythologies' backstory, it doesn't make any references to humans helping Raiden fight the war. It does indeed seem to have been god-on-god alone.

Still, the part about the early Shaolin being brought together to build the temple to hide the amulet after Shinnok's defeat is there, so that alone proves human civilization had at least dawned already by the time of the Raiden/Shinnok war and they had to at least briefly co-exist with the Saurians.

True that. I was just under the impression for the longest time that the Shinnok/Raiden war had occurred in the seriously distant past and nearly wiped out the Saurian presence on Earth ages before humans came along due to Khameleon's MKT bio, which said that 'they evolved on Earth millions of years ago into intelligent creatures, but fled the realm when it was destroyed in a battle between the gods'. I'd figured MKM and MK4's specifications of the battle taking place 'thousands of years ago' meant that their civilization instead lasted for millions of years before the Shinnok/Raiden conflict occurred, but I'd forgotten totally about that blasted MKA detail about the war against Edenia predating the Shinnok/Raiden conflict. I really need to go back and play through that game's Konquest mode again, much as it grinds against me to do so.

Thanks for clearing that up. More food for my perpetually put-off timeline!

Agreed.

I'm with those who want the MK2 style theme for Baraka. That, and his MKT Vs face was the best Imo.

Metallic/dark grey teeth, black or no eyes, black finger nails, darker skin tone, slimmer build, dead mummy walking stance, coffin win pose, etc are all the cool qualities I want for Baraka. As long as his face looks demonic and more Nosferatu
as possible, its all good.

Never was a fan of the muscular he-man build or the yellow/orange eyes, but I still think his MKD look was alright in its own ways. I'm glad the Kung Lao slice fatality isn't canon, I never really liked the staples or spikes on his head. I've always felt Baraka should be more agile, fast, and unpredictable yet insane and crazy, rather than big-body-big-mouth-drooling, dumb, slow; unintelligent.

Since we're talking about tha B man, another thing I wanted to point out was the appearance of his race. To me, not every single Nomad should look exactly like Baraka. Some should be grotesque, twisted and deformed with spikes pointing out at different parts of the body. Others could have blades that are curved or hooked; maybe ones can have long blades coming out their finger nails. I also want to see members have battle scars on their body/faces and some that keep their enemies battle armor, even wearing it. A while ago I saw this Baraka pic where he's wearing Shao Kahns helmit minus the front face mask. Looked fuckin sick.

Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents on Baraka. Still surprised we haven't seen anything with him yet, but hopefully soon. Peace.

Honestly, i really digged the way Baraka looked in MKDC.

I still love the sinister look he had in MK2. The face was what creep the poop back in my stomach. I begging for a devilish looking Baraka, he should be able to give kids nightmares again!