so in mk armageddon did shao khan kill onaga?
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posted02/17/2011 03:03 AM (UTC)by
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mkreptile8860
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03/02/2010 10:17 AM (UTC)
because in the armageddon opening shao khan gets tookin away from the pryamid so will they explain how he got back and got to raiden ??
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saiZero
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02/16/2011 11:40 AM (UTC)
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By now Im sure you can figure out that the majority of what we think we know about MKA is not true anymore.

.........plus the opening movie isn't canon....
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....even though deception and deadly alliance opening movies were....

Stupid, isn't it?
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mkreptile8860
02/16/2011 11:44 AM (UTC)
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o i thoght they were canon
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02/16/2011 11:49 AM (UTC)
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mkreptile8860 Wrote:
o i thoght they were canon


Only armageddons isn't... since that game was one big mess, I guess they just threw together character deaths in the movie without thinking of the impact it would have.

I really wish they would have treated MKA like namco did Tekken Tag and just picked up from Deception.

Maybe they will do that through this retelling and skip all the bad trash they created in the process of reaching MKDA's and MKD's plot. Just no mokaps, shujinkos, and tavens please.
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mkreptile8860
02/16/2011 11:57 AM (UTC)
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yea lol mokap waz horrible
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Ninja_Mime
02/16/2011 01:34 PM (UTC)
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Armageddon was supposed to be Delia's vision.
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JohnBoyAdvance
02/16/2011 03:35 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
Armageddon was supposed to be Delia's vision.

This.

I think even at the time the Armageddon intro was meant to represent "What could happen?" And now with Big Daddy Kahn winning it and all...
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Mileena Stan
02/16/2011 04:35 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
Armageddon was supposed to be Delia's vision.


Omg! I never knew, I thought it was that retarded Argus guys... That's what you get when your little brother goes on your profile and completes half your Konquest mode.. Little idiot ._.
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Disco_Diva
02/16/2011 06:57 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
Armageddon was supposed to be Delia's vision.


My thoughts exactly. It's canon because it's just a dream/vision sequence.
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evilekim
02/16/2011 08:31 PM (UTC)
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I think he killed him in MK:D
I believe that Quan Chi and Shang Tsung killed someone else wearing Kahn's armor. Then Shao Kahn saves Goro on the battlefield. They become allies and kill the Dragon King. Shao Kahn returns as Emperor.
That MK:A intro was just a vision.
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Darkhound74
02/16/2011 08:34 PM (UTC)
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evilekim Wrote:
I think he killed him in MK:D
I believe that Quan Chi and Shang Tsung killed someone else wearing Kahn's armor. Then Shao Kahn saves Goro on the battlefield. They become allies and kill the Dragon King. Shao Kahn returns as Emperor.
That MK:A intro was just a vision.


Actually Shao Kahn killed Onaga a long time ago by poisoning him and took his throne over Outworld.
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Gillbob316
02/16/2011 08:46 PM (UTC)
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I wanna ask a question here. Serious question...

At any point did Boon & Co. actually confirm that the beginning of the new game has ANYTHING TO DO with the end of Armageddon? Or did people just assume it did, based on context?

Because I've heard alot of people say the reason Raiden is doing this was that Shao Kahn defeated Blaze... but I don't ever remember Boon actually saying that.

I only remember them saying Shao Kahn was on the brink of total annihilation, basically (paraphrasing from memory). And then everyone ASSUMED he got there by defeating Blaze...

I just don't ever remember anyoen from Netherealm studios saying the setup for this game had anything to do with Blaze or Armageddon. It seems like fans just jumped to that conclusion. (Not saying there isn't logic to the jump to make there, though)

Cause in that debut video we saw, where Raiden and Kahn are fighting, it certainly doesn't LOOK like it has anything to do with Armageddon. Raiden isn't Dark (we haven't seen any trace of Dark Raiden in this game thus far) and they're in an Outworld arena full of people, nowhere near the pyramid. (But this scene could admittedly take place after the jump to the past. I dunno.)

I mean they could just be starting this game off with a brand new story like they did with MKvsDC... kinda disregarding what came before and diving right into "This is where we're at now. Here's why. Now move let's move on."

But I could be wrong. Maybe I missed a statement by Boon somewhere along the line confirming this game was directly linked to Armageddon, and if someone knows where that statement is and want's to throw it in my face, please do, because I'm by no means sure of myself here.

Prove me wrong. Please. I want you to. (Not being a smartass, I do. lol)
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02/16/2011 09:36 PM (UTC)
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Tookin away from the pryamid, you say?
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Onaga
02/16/2011 09:47 PM (UTC)
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@Gillbob316

It has been stated by many members(okay 3) of the members at NRS that this game takes place right after Armageddon and yes they have said Armageddon. Further more they say "It opens up where Shao Kahn is the only one remaining from the battle everyone else is dead except Raiden and he is about to finish the thunder god off" That wasn't verbatimbut that is pretty much what has been said.

As for the cinematic in the debut trailer, okay I am pretty sure that was just made up for the trailer and is likely not going to be in the game itself.
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stinky_thc_cloud
02/16/2011 09:49 PM (UTC)
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ahahaha the cyborg talk its seems like it was just yesterday.
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TheGecko
02/16/2011 10:32 PM (UTC)
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remember the only canon ending in MKA was tavens he defeated blaze but because blazes design was corrupted, when blazes power went through tavens armor instead of the two outcomes of killing all the warriors or just taking away everyones powers, the outcome caused all the warriors to become more powerful, so here i assume because everyone got more powerful kahn as big and bad as he already was still fucked everyone up and raiden is left and kahn was about to kill him this is when raiden sent a message back in time.
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Disco_Diva
02/16/2011 10:56 PM (UTC)
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TheGecko Wrote:
remember the only canon ending in MKA was tavens he defeated blaze but because blazes design was corrupted, when blazes power went through tavens armor instead of the two outcomes of killing all the warriors or just taking away everyones powers, the outcome caused all the warriors to become more powerful, so here i assume because everyone got more powerful kahn as big and bad as he already was still fucked everyone up and raiden is left and kahn was about to kill him this is when raiden sent a message back in time.


Umm dude, it's yet to be confirmed which ending is canon. You could say Shao's has been confirmed but since the time warp storyline it blurs that line.
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Darkhound74
02/16/2011 11:02 PM (UTC)
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Disco_Diva Wrote:
TheGecko Wrote:
remember the only canon ending in MKA was tavens he defeated blaze but because blazes design was corrupted, when blazes power went through tavens armor instead of the two outcomes of killing all the warriors or just taking away everyones powers, the outcome caused all the warriors to become more powerful, so here i assume because everyone got more powerful kahn as big and bad as he already was still fucked everyone up and raiden is left and kahn was about to kill him this is when raiden sent a message back in time.


Umm dude, it's yet to be confirmed which ending is canon. You could say Shao's has been confirmed but since the time warp storyline it blurs that line.


Ad far as I'm concerned those awful endings are not nor will they ever be canon.
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02/16/2011 11:50 PM (UTC)
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I might have missed this, but at what point did somebody say the opening video wasn't canon? As far as I remember, nothing that happened wasn't contradictory of the conquest mode and nothing very significant happened that would make them want to disregard it;

- A few character received some near fatal injuries - big deal if they are doing the whole back to the future thing anyway.

- Kahn gets carried away from the battle. This may be a significant plot element for his ultimate victory.

The opening video introduced what it needed to. The Forces of darkness and light are fighting each other, the big pyramid appears, they find blaze up the top. Why do people insist that this isn't a part of MK cannon. Frankly I consider the opening video the best part of Armageddon, and has more right yobe canon that the game's conquest mode (particularly Taven's weak ending.)
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02/17/2011 12:33 AM (UTC)
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Mango Wrote:
I might have missed this, but at what point did somebody say the opening video wasn't canon? As far as I remember, nothing that happened wasn't contradictory of the conquest mode and nothing very significant happened that would make them want to disregard it;

- A few character received some near fatal injuries - big deal if they are doing the whole back to the future thing anyway.

- Kahn gets carried away from the battle. This may be a significant plot element for his ultimate victory.


Yeah I don't get how the opening isn't cannon either. When did anybody mention this?

Besides Kahn is never seen being killed he was simply carried off. So I don't get why people assume he dies but characters like Li Mei were just wounded. (Sorry people if you get impaled through the chest you're dead.)
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02/17/2011 01:17 AM (UTC)
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Not to mention that Shao was pimping down the block, owning everyone in sight. I don't think Onaga would end up killing him without a fight.
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02/17/2011 02:50 AM (UTC)
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I'm pretty sure Taven's ending was canon. Once he defeated Blaze, the power was divided among the kombatants and Armageddon was never actually prevented (paradox-ilicious). With the divided power, Shao Khan and Raiden remain the only kombatants left. Once Shao Khan defeats Raiden, Raiden (using his improved power thanks to Taven defeating Blaze) sends a vivid, cloudy message to Raiden shortly prior to the events of MK1.
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02/17/2011 02:58 AM (UTC)
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mortalsebastian Wrote:
I'm pretty sure Taven's ending was canon. Once he defeated Blaze, the power was divided among the kombatants and Armageddon was never actually prevented (paradox-ilicious). With the divided power, Shao Khan and Raiden remain the only kombatants left. Once Shao Khan defeats Raiden, Raiden (using his improved power thanks to Taven defeating Blaze) sends a vivid, cloudy message to Raiden shortly prior to the events of MK1.


Until April 19, we don't know for sure.
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02/17/2011 03:03 AM (UTC)
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I the GameTrailers TV thing that revealed Jax, Hector Sanchez stated along the lines of that 'Shao Kahn defeated Blaze and that he was about to become the overlord of the realms.'
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