Sub-Zero Heart Rip?
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posted07/14/2010 02:00 PM (UTC)by
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09/18/2003 06:09 PM (UTC)
Noticed in the E3 Wrap-Up post that "Shatter" and "Heart Rip" were listed as Sub-Zero's two fatalities.

I've seen the fatality compilation video that appears to show a modified version of the MKSM spine rip where Sub-Zero reaches into the opponent's torso and rips out the spine and skull, then freezes the body and shatters it with a swinging blow from the skull.

That was all I was aware of for Subby, though it's quite possible I missed something. Was there video/confirmation of a second fatality for Sub-Zero? Where is the listed "heart rip" fatality information coming from?

Ideally, I'd like to see Sub-Zero end up with the classic spine rip fatality. Given the incredible improvement in the graphics and the far more realistic approach to the violence in this game, I'd love to see the classic head/spine rip from MK1... just like on the banner that hung from the rafters at e3. Imagine the blood and sinew, torn tendens and muscle hanging from the neck, and the horrified look on the face of the victim as Sub-Zero holds the head high in the air. Much grizzlier than the Shaolin Monks version of the move.
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06/20/2010 04:07 AM (UTC)
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To me, the mk4 ice shatter fatality was perfect. Any modification would offset the sleekness.

I do think it would be cool to have the freeze and the shatter require two separate inputs like in MK2.
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red5iver
06/20/2010 05:10 AM (UTC)
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I think the heart rip is an error...to me it looks like Sub rips the spine out, but the skull is not attached. Granted, it's hard to see details due to the speed of the fatality montage. It also looks like Sub has a seperate freeze and shatter fatality from the montage.

On another note, it looks like Scorpion has 2 fatalities that involve his swords...shocked there isn't a toasty update for this game.
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~Crow~
06/20/2010 05:21 AM (UTC)
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It was hard for me to tell what it was really. Too much switching of action screens. Things will be updated once it's known for sure. He definitely does have a separate freeze and shatter fatality though.
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GabrielVbrz
06/20/2010 01:47 PM (UTC)
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There is a video on youtube with new gameplay footage and it shows (twoards the end when the have a fatality show) subby ripping out reptiles heart.





Heres the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nWxrqh7i0





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06/20/2010 03:50 PM (UTC)
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That doesn't appear to be a heart. It looks to be a round bloody object connected to a long, slinder bloody object. I think its a version of the spine rip from Shaoling Monks... the opening video where Subby reaches into the back of a guard and rips out the spine and skull, then starts swinging it as a weapon.

And I certainly have no inside sources. And I did not attend e3, so all of this is based solely on the footage and coverage I've seen on the net, but I'm also not sure the shatter move is separate from the spine/skull/heart/whatever rip fatality. If you look closesly, the "rip" fatality occurs to reptile in shang's throne room. The freeze occurs to Reptile in Shang's throne room, and the shatter part appears to occur in Shang's throne room. I believe it's all one fatality. Plus, Sub-Zero seems to shatter the body by swinging the same body part he's ripped from Reptile. ] It appears sub-zero is holding onto a spinal cord or something Same enemy, same location as the freeze fatality begins. Swinging the same spine/skull/heart as the means to shattering his frozen opponent. Of course, there could be a separate freeze move I simply haven't seen. In which case, I apologize profusely for my ignorance.
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06/20/2010 03:55 PM (UTC)
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nope i agree, i think its a miscommunication that its supposed to be a spine fatality and not a heart. btw, GabrielVbrz, thanks for the video i havent seen that interview yet. man i love the moves of kunlao. also i see that they are kinda keeping the deception move list primary style.
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06/20/2010 04:11 PM (UTC)
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All of this was just what people saw, and when we first heard the news, people only saw the clip once, thus the confusion. Now that we are able to see it for our own eyes, you can clearly see it's the same fatality, and it's the spine with the skull attached that he pulls out of their chest.

Johnny Cage's torso rip is the same fatality as his uppercut decapitation as well. He uppercuts them then rips off their torso.

A common trend is the combinations of past fatalities, so it makes sense that these are 1 in the same. I don't believe we've seen Sub's or Johnny's 2nd fatalities.

What's the most interesting to me at this point, is how close Scorpion's fatalities are to one another, but we have yet to see the finish of the second one. 1 we saw in full where he cuts their waist and their neck and kicks out their torso and follows through and splits the head. The 2nd he cuts their knees and the their neck, but their head goes flying in the air...and that's all we saw. So either this is a simple variation of the same fatality we've seen, or he's gonna finish it off by lighting their torso on fire or something to that effect. Either way, I really hope Scorpion's 2nd fatality is different than what we have seen, because I'd hate for him to only use his swords in both fatalities, when his trademarks have always been his spear and fire.

We still have yet to get a glimpse of Reptile's, Sektor's, Mileena's, Nightwolf's, Sub-Zero's, and Johnny Cage's 2nd fatalities. At least, that's the way I see it.
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red5iver
06/20/2010 04:21 PM (UTC)
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Ah, the still pics certainly make a good case for this being one fatality...good job! Maybe it's the brain attached to the spinal chord...hard to tell. But Reptile definitly still has his head attached from what I've seen.
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06/20/2010 04:48 PM (UTC)
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Clearly a Spine and Skull. Proved by that post above i beleive but this puts it out of doubt. Taken form the people to the left, right at the same showing I believe. Nobody in the way here.




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06/20/2010 05:00 PM (UTC)
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I've made edits where appropriate. I'm going to just operate under the belief this is one, single fatality for now.
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06/20/2010 05:37 PM (UTC)
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You can also add Nightwolf's reflector move as it was in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nWxrqh7i0

And it looks as if Johnny Cage has some sort of Green energy punch as well as a Green energy Parry/Counter of some sort. Watch the tag match closely and you'll see what I am talking about.
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skillz
06/21/2010 09:07 AM (UTC)
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Ahh..finally some clarity about his fatality, looks indeed as one.

Hope that they will give him his classic MK 1 fatality, many people still find this MK's best fatality. And with the graphics today and detail .. pff .. can u imagine.
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06/21/2010 09:22 AM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
You can also add Nightwolf's reflector move as it was in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nWxrqh7i0

And it looks as if Johnny Cage has some sort of Green energy punch as well as a Green energy Parry/Counter of some sort. Watch the tag match closely and you'll see what I am talking about.


Yeah, I just wasn't sure what the punch was honestly or if maybe everyone had one (why I didn't include Scorpion's air throw, for example).
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jbthrash
06/21/2010 09:29 AM (UTC)
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Here's a question. When Sub does his x-ray move he crushes his opponents liver. Correct? Well what happens if he does this move twice in the match(not the round)? Does he crush another organ? Or does he go after something else?
GabrielVbrz Wrote:
There is a video on youtube with new gameplay footage and it shows (twoards the end when the have a fatality show) subby ripping out reptiles heart.





Heres the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nWxrqh7i0





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he's not going for his heart, he's going for his spine. when he pulls it out, you can clearly see that its a spine connected to a skull. booN is just trying to jazz up the classics and instead of the spine rip from the back, subbys doing it in the front. which looks like a hell of a brutal way to die. What bothers me, is if there are trying to touch up alot on the details, why is there no eyes or fangs in the skull? and wouldn't reptile's head become (flat) since his skull has be ripped out?
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ShaolinChuan
07/13/2010 07:27 AM (UTC)
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The fatality goes like this:

Subzero rips out from the chest, the spinal cord attached to the skull of his opponent. He then uses his free hand to freeze the enemy and shatters them with the swinging motion of the spine + skull, using it like a mace.

There you have it folks, the updated freeze and shatter. Pretty cool.
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07/13/2010 10:44 AM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
You can also add Nightwolf's reflector move as it was in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nWxrqh7i0

And it looks as if Johnny Cage has some sort of Green energy punch as well as a Green energy Parry/Counter of some sort. Watch the tag match closely and you'll see what I am talking about.


Just noticed something really cool in that video. When a character does a combo breaker they are unique animations for each character. Reptile does a quick force ball (at around 1.04) and just after that Sektor shoots a quick missile as his combo breaker. That green energy punch (at around 4.37) could be his combo breaker cause it misses it doesn't say breaker. Although it could be a set up for his X-ray move.
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07/14/2010 05:15 AM (UTC)
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-NIGHTWOLF- Wrote:
That green energy punch (at around 4.37) could be his combo breaker cause it misses it doesn't say breaker. Although it could be a set up for his X-ray move.


That's not a punch, it's a parry where he catches the opponent's next attack and pushes it aside. It's how his X-Ray starts. You can see the whole thing executed at 4:57. (Complete with him yelling "You got Caged!" when the parry succeeds, lol.)
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07/14/2010 08:18 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
-NIGHTWOLF- Wrote:
That green energy punch (at around 4.37) could be his combo breaker cause it misses it doesn't say breaker. Although it could be a set up for his X-ray move.


That's not a punch, it's a parry where he catches the opponent's next attack and pushes it aside. It's how his X-Ray starts. You can see the whole thing executed at 4:57. (Complete with him yelling "You got Caged!" when the parry succeeds, lol.)


Yeah you're right it's defitiely his X-ray attack.
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07/14/2010 09:28 AM (UTC)
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Casselman Wrote:
Clearly a Spine and Skull. Proved by that post above i beleive but this puts it out of doubt. Taken form the people to the left, right at the same showing I believe. Nobody in the way here.




-Casselman


I wonder if thats how Shang Tsung will look as a playable character? Since it is retelling MK 1 - 3, Tsung would be old through most it, right?
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Casselman Wrote:
Clearly a Spine and Skull. Proved by that post above i beleive but this puts it out of doubt. Taken form the people to the left, right at the same showing I believe. Nobody in the way here.




-Casselman


I wonder if thats how Shang Tsung will look as a playable character? Since it is retelling MK 1 - 3, Tsung would be old through most it, right?

Hector Sanchez basically said yes that's how he'll look as a fighter because they fully rendered him for sitting so why not have him as a fighter. Best Shang Tsung look ever.
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