Who is in favor of characters as angels, warriors of other digitlized games and drag queen ninjas?
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03/15/2014 11:12 AM EST
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We don't need anymore ninja characters. There are plenty, we have male ninjas, female ninjas, robot ninjas, I think that's enough. Maybe a female ninja from earth because aren't all the female ninjas from Edenia or Outworld? Oh wait Frost, she's from Earth right? That's another thing we don't need, female versions of male characters, or vice versa.



What male ninjas are you talking about exactly? We only have one.


I think he is talking from the eyes of casuals. Not from view of a purist like people such as RazorsEdge the MKO's Guru lol.
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03/15/2014 05:20 PM EST
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We don't need anymore ninja characters. There are plenty, we have male ninjas, female ninjas, robot ninjas, I think that's enough. Maybe a female ninja from earth because aren't all the female ninjas from Edenia or Outworld? Oh wait Frost, she's from Earth right? That's another thing we don't need, female versions of male characters, or vice versa.



What male ninjas are you talking about exactly? We only have one.


Who's the only one? I thought it was a common understanding that the original pallet swapped characters were the ninjas. Scorpion, sub zero, reptile, Kitana, Mileena, jade, then Rain and Ermac. Oh yeah and smoke. I know the evolution of their stories might contradict this nowadays, but how I see it, is the original masked pallet swap characters from MK1-trilogy are the ninjas. I try not to get too in depth and difficult.
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03/15/2014 09:29 PM EST
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We don't need anymore ninja characters. There are plenty, we have male ninjas, female ninjas, robot ninjas, I think that's enough. Maybe a female ninja from earth because aren't all the female ninjas from Edenia or Outworld? Oh wait Frost, she's from Earth right? That's another thing we don't need, female versions of male characters, or vice versa.



What male ninjas are you talking about exactly? We only have one.


Who's the only one? I thought it was a common understanding that the original pallet swapped characters were the ninjas. Scorpion, sub zero, reptile, Kitana, Mileena, jade, then Rain and Ermac. Oh yeah and smoke. I know the evolution of their stories might contradict this nowadays, but how I see it, is the original masked pallet swap characters from MK1-trilogy are the ninjas. I try not to get too in depth and difficult.


Everyone still calls them the "ninjas" of Mortal Kombat, but only one, who is Scorpion, is the only character that is actually a ninja. So in defense, we only have ONE ninja, not the plenty that you've listed.

It's not difficult to see that every one of the original palette characters have become something different today.
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03/15/2014 09:42 PM EST
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wdm6789 Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:

We don't need anymore ninja characters. There are plenty, we have male ninjas, female ninjas, robot ninjas, I think that's enough. Maybe a female ninja from earth because aren't all the female ninjas from Edenia or Outworld? Oh wait Frost, she's from Earth right? That's another thing we don't need, female versions of male characters, or vice versa.



What male ninjas are you talking about exactly? We only have one.


Who's the only one? I thought it was a common understanding that the original pallet swapped characters were the ninjas. Scorpion, sub zero, reptile, Kitana, Mileena, jade, then Rain and Ermac. Oh yeah and smoke. I know the evolution of their stories might contradict this nowadays, but how I see it, is the original masked pallet swap characters from MK1-trilogy are the ninjas. I try not to get too in depth and difficult.


Everyone still calls them the "ninjas" of Mortal Kombat, but only one, who is Scorpion, is the only character that is actually a ninja. So in defense, we only have ONE ninja, not the plenty that you've listed.

It's not difficult to see that every one of the original palette characters have become something different today.



I might be willing to omit Rain and Ermac. But all the palette swap characters from the first two games, playable and hidden, are still the "ninjas" of the series. Maybe not technically, but still.
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03/16/2014 01:41 AM EST
The Lin Kuei technically invented ninjas and Japan stole the idea. If there was a Chinese word for "ninja", we could use that for them, but there's not, so it's pretty much just as valid to call Sub-Zero, Smoke, Noob, Sektor, and Cyrax ninjas as it is for Scorpion.
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03/16/2014 02:44 PM EST
I love when Icebaby and Razor argue the "Scorpion-is-the-only-Ninja" point.
Proceed grin

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03/16/2014 03:02 PM EST
lurdpabl Wrote:
Only ninjas and cyborgs in MK not will work forever... something new need be use...


But that's why we have, oh.. every other character. Cage, Sonya & Goro for example. We have plenty of palette swap "ninjas" and i don't think it would be a good idea to change them now, but including more at this point would be overkill.

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Ok, no. We don't need trannys trashing up our Mortal Kombat universe. What is wrong with people today? Is there no decency anymore?

Err... trashing up? Think very carefully about your words before you make such assessments. To say that TVs/TGs are indecent in the MK universe is akin to saying the same about... oh for example sorcerers, blind telekinetics or black people. People are who they are and if there's a genuinely good story/plot reason for inclusion then the idea shouldn't be discarded irrationally. Are you aware that in Kira's MKD bio she dressed as a man for a while when dealing with Afghan arms dealers.

I'm saying transsexuality is indecent in general. I did not say anything about any of the others you mentioned. And who cares about Kira?


I was using them as examples of types of people in the world. There's a wide variety of people and, yes, some are TVs/TSs. Saying no to inclusion based on your petty prejudice is as bad as being racist. Who cares about Kira? The makers of MK for starters. I'm using her previous transvestism as a perfect example of a time when it was relevant as a character point.

Oh, and FYI, Transvestism and transsexuality ISN'T indecent. I'm a TV who behaves perfectly decently, thank you.
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03/16/2014 03:58 PM EST
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
The Lin Kuei technically invented ninjas and Japan stole the idea. If there was a Chinese word for "ninja", we could use that for them, but there's not, so it's pretty much just as valid to call Sub-Zero, Smoke, Noob, Sektor, and Cyrax ninjas as it is for Scorpion.


You forgot Frost tongue Well... kinda...

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I love when Icebaby and Razor argue the "Scorpion-is-the-only-Ninja" point.
Proceed grin



Oh, so sorry to disappoint.
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03/16/2014 05:23 PM EST
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Oh, so sorry to disappoint.


Daaaaaaamn, Icebaby, why you gotta be so cold? wink

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03/16/2014 05:47 PM EST
Icebaby Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
The Lin Kuei technically invented ninjas and Japan stole the idea. If there was a Chinese word for "ninja", we could use that for them, but there's not, so it's pretty much just as valid to call Sub-Zero, Smoke, Noob, Sektor, and Cyrax ninjas as it is for Scorpion.


You forgot Frost tongue Well... kinda...

Mojo6 Wrote:
I love when Icebaby and Razor argue the "Scorpion-is-the-only-Ninja" point.
Proceed grin



Oh, so sorry to disappoint.


Since MK is still missing a white ninja, why not make Frost white?
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03/16/2014 08:21 PM EST
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Since MK is still missing a white ninja, why not make Frost white?


She is white...

Oh wait, we're not discussing "race" here.
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03/16/2014 08:21 PM EST
Frost is already white. wink
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03/16/2014 10:19 PM EST
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You forgot Frost


So I did, my mistake.
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03/17/2014 03:20 AM EST
What about Shujinko? The certificate Lin Kuei warrior? Frost would be a kunoichi because women cannot be "ninjas" to begin with. The Chinese imperial assassins did likely influence the ninjas in the real world, but that doesn't render China's assassins ninjas – even if they practically were.
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03/17/2014 07:56 AM EST
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Frost is already white. wink


Make her the white ninja.
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03/17/2014 02:10 PM EST
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Only ninjas and cyborgs in MK not will work forever... something new need be use...


But that's why we have, oh.. every other character. Cage, Sonya & Goro for example. We have plenty of palette swap "ninjas" and i don't think it would be a good idea to change them now, but including more at this point would be overkill.

wdm6789 Wrote:
PickleMendip Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:
Ok, no. We don't need trannys trashing up our Mortal Kombat universe. What is wrong with people today? Is there no decency anymore?

Err... trashing up? Think very carefully about your words before you make such assessments. To say that TVs/TGs are indecent in the MK universe is akin to saying the same about... oh for example sorcerers, blind telekinetics or black people. People are who they are and if there's a genuinely good story/plot reason for inclusion then the idea shouldn't be discarded irrationally. Are you aware that in Kira's MKD bio she dressed as a man for a while when dealing with Afghan arms dealers.

I'm saying transsexuality is indecent in general. I did not say anything about any of the others you mentioned. And who cares about Kira?


I was using them as examples of types of people in the world. There's a wide variety of people and, yes, some are TVs/TSs. Saying no to inclusion based on your petty prejudice is as bad as being racist. Who cares about Kira? The makers of MK for starters. I'm using her previous transvestism as a perfect example of a time when it was relevant as a character point.

Oh, and FYI, Transvestism and transsexuality ISN'T indecent. I'm a TV who behaves perfectly decently, thank you.



Kira's a different story, she did what she had to do to get her job done.

She's not one of those weirdos with huge hair and makeup on the Rupaul show.

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03/17/2014 03:24 PM EST
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Kira's a different story, she did what she had to do to get her job done.

She's not one of those weirdos with huge hair and makeup on the Rupaul show.



So according to you, transsexuals are weirdos?
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03/17/2014 04:23 PM EST
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wdm6789 Wrote:
Kira's a different story, she did what she had to do to get her job done.

She's not one of those weirdos with huge hair and makeup on the Rupaul show.



So according to you, transsexuals are weirdos?


Yes. But I do not want to get into a debate about social and political viewpoints.
I would rather keep the conversation on MK.

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03/17/2014 06:17 PM EST
wdm6789 Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:
Kira's a different story, she did what she had to do to get her job done.

She's not one of those weirdos with huge hair and makeup on the Rupaul show.



So according to you, transsexuals are weirdos?


Yes. But I do not want to get into a debate about social and political viewpoints.
I would rather keep the conversation on MK.



Well then choose your words a little bit more wisely. You don't know who comes on here and what they're like behind their usernames and who might find what you say to be offensive.
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03/17/2014 07:00 PM EST
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wdm6789 Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:
Kira's a different story, she did what she had to do to get her job done.

She's not one of those weirdos with huge hair and makeup on the Rupaul show.



So according to you, transsexuals are weirdos?


Yes. But I do not want to get into a debate about social and political viewpoints.
I would rather keep the conversation on MK.



Well then choose your words a little bit more wisely. You don't know who comes on here and what they're like behind their usernames and who might find what you say to be offensive.


I agree transexuals are weird. I wouldn't call them weirdos because of that one aspect. A weirdo is completely weird with whatever he/she decides to do.
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03/17/2014 10:20 PM EST
Says the pot calling the kettle black.
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03/17/2014 11:46 PM EST
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Says the pot calling the kettle black.


What's that supposed to mean?
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03/18/2014 12:20 AM EST
I am in favor of TVs, TSs, CDs, drags and other in MK.
Shang Tsung transform himself in women... why not CDs or drags?
Street Fighter have Poison and Roxy. King of Fighter have Ash e Benimaru.
Let's evolute our minds.
I know very cool drags and TSs... Why Raiden can't know very cool drags too?
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03/18/2014 11:34 AM EST
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I am in favor of TVs, TSs, CDs, drags and other in MK.
Shang Tsung transform himself in women... why not CDs or drags?
Street Fighter have Poison and Roxy. King of Fighter have Ash e Benimaru.
Let's evolute our minds.
I know very cool drags and TSs... Why Raiden can't know very cool drags too?


... I really hope you're trolling right now, because this has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read here.
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03/18/2014 12:06 PM EST
To be fair, Body Dysmorphia, as in having a gender identity that doesn't match the body you were born with ("a man trapped in a woman's body" or vise versa), the leading motive for transexualism, is a genuine mental disorder.

A pretty serious one, too. There's statistical evidence to suggest that a large portion of the people, maybe even the majority, who get sex change operations either regret it so much or are still so unhappy with the results because they still don't feel like the genuine article, that they commit suicide.
Not to mention that plastic surgery costs tens of thousands of dollars, and I bet even if you just take hormones, that ain't cheap either...that's the kind of money a person's life could be ruined trying to acquire, like you're spending all your paychecks on that instead of a house or a car or going to college or bills and food...I'm sure that doesn't help in their seemingly hopeless pursuit of self-esteem and happiness.