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Why couldn't this ending have happened?

01/09/2016 05:13 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
At this point I say fuck it.

Get KP2 out and be done with this game. Move on to the next project and just put MKX behind us.


Considering that they're owned by WB now NRS should have enough resources to have enough staff to allocate to keeping MKX content going for the next few years before they work on 11 while another team works on Injustice 2.
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01/09/2016 06:02 PM (UTC)
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Human-Smoke-4-ever Wrote:
Considering that they're owned by WB now NRS should have enough resources to have enough staff to allocate to keeping MKX content going for the next few years


Why bother?

I want them to put all resources towards whatever they do next so we don't have another game with busted ass online. More characters, costumes, stages, and balance patches aren't going to fix the garbage online experience.

I want the next NRS project to be the best it can possibly be and I think having all hands on deck would help with that.
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You work with what you got...not what you hope for.

01/09/2016 06:40 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Human-Smoke-4-ever Wrote:
Considering that they're owned by WB now NRS should have enough resources to have enough staff to allocate to keeping MKX content going for the next few years


Why bother?

I want them to put all resources towards whatever they do next so we don't have another game with busted ass online. More characters, costumes, stages, and balance patches aren't going to fix the garbage online experience.

I want the next NRS project to be the best it can possibly be and I think having all hands on deck would help with that.


If your main concern is online, character art/design wouldn't have anything to do with that anyway. If there's truly demand for it, which KP2 will reveal, than why not?
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01/09/2016 06:59 PM (UTC)
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If there's truly demand for it, which KP2 will reveal, than why not?


I personally think that's money better spent elsewhere. I think putting the money to make more characters, costumes, stages, etc is a waste of money at this point. I think that money is much better off being put towards a better online infrastructure.

I kinda feel like whatever budget NRS got for MKX went into everything else besides making a good online. It was definitely not a priority and the quality shows that.
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01/09/2016 10:15 PM (UTC)
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First of all, I wnt to say thank you all for sharing your honest opinions. I appreciate it ! I also want to say that I really hoped to see Havik,Reiko,Li mei and Onaga over Predator,Jason,Leatherface and Alien .... I mean it is MK game not Horror characters fighting game I am not merely against atheir inclusion I am just disappointed to see them over REAL MK characters ...That's all...
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01/09/2016 11:17 PM (UTC)
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I am a die hard Fujin fan but I have doubts that he will ever be DLC in Mortal Kombat X. So the story pack may not happen. Maybe they will be in the next game.
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01/10/2016 12:08 AM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
If there's truly demand for it, which KP2 will reveal, than why not?


I personally think that's money better spent elsewhere. I think putting the money to make more characters, costumes, stages, etc is a waste of money at this point. I think that money is much better off being put towards a better online infrastructure.

I kinda feel like whatever budget NRS got for MKX went into everything else besides making a good online. It was definitely not a priority and the quality shows that.


I get where you're coming from. But is net code something you can just throw money at to make it better? Everything I've read on the matter seems to point the finger at limitations to the source code(unreal 3). So unless they're ready to just go all "scorched earth" on that shit and start over on Unreal 4 (unless porting their engine to unreal 4 is possible?) this problem may persist for another game or two...and that sucks.

Now as far as looking to the future, I have, and I know Mortal Kombat isn't in it for at least another 3 years, so I'm happy to see any and all support that they're willing to give this game.
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KoldKombat
01/10/2016 12:38 AM (UTC)
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Some games out there get content updates and DLC a year, two years, plus after releases. No reason this cannot happen here.

Until they say no or deny it, which they have not done or in some cases have come right out and said they cannot answer that re: more characters, means anything is still possible.
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01/10/2016 02:21 AM (UTC)
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Detox Wrote:
So unless they're ready to just go all "scorched earth" on that shit and start over on Unreal 4 (unless porting their engine to unreal 4 is possible?) this problem may persist for another game or two...and that sucks.

Now as far as looking to the future, I have, and I know Mortal Kombat isn't in it for at least another 3 years, so I'm happy to see any and all support that they're willing to give this game.


Then they need to get with the program and make the leap to Unreal 4. SFV and Tekken 7 made the jump, now it's NRS' turn.

I cannot stress how important a good netcode is. MK was made to be played against other people, which extends to playing other people online. So when they put out something with such a bad netcode it feels like a part of the game is broken to me.

And it's not like NRS doesn't know about this problem. If the next NRS game has shit netcode I'm not buying their products anymore. I can't support bad habits.
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01/10/2016 07:53 AM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
So unless they're ready to just go all "scorched earth" on that shit and start over on Unreal 4 (unless porting their engine to unreal 4 is possible?) this problem may persist for another game or two...and that sucks.

Now as far as looking to the future, I have, and I know Mortal Kombat isn't in it for at least another 3 years, so I'm happy to see any and all support that they're willing to give this game.


Then they need to get with the program and make the leap to Unreal 4. SFV and Tekken 7 made the jump, now it's NRS' turn.

I cannot stress how important a good netcode is. MK was made to be played against other people, which extends to playing other people online. So when they put out something with such a bad netcode it feels like a part of the game is broken to me.

And it's not like NRS doesn't know about this problem. If the next NRS game has shit netcode I'm not buying their products anymore. I can't support bad habits.


I just honestly don't see them jumping ship to a new engine until they absolutely have to. This is ultimately WB we're talking about and given how they've handled PC ports lately, they obviously like to take the easy route as much as possible.
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01/11/2016 03:18 PM (UTC)
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About the engine, WB had a deal to exclusively use UE3 engine from 2011-2014. I'm sure their next batch of games will use UE4.
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01/13/2016 10:33 PM (UTC)
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Maybe they won't make them playable never like they did with Goro, Kintaro and Shao in MK9. booN said he'll make them playable and he didn't.
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01/15/2016 05:23 AM (UTC)
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A Story Pack would have to have the Li Mei too. In fact it is more important to the history that Sindel.
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01/15/2016 06:22 PM (UTC)
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Odemuitascastas Wrote:
A Story Pack would have to have the Li Mei too. In fact it is more important to the history that Sindel.


I'd rather have Li Mei over Sindel anyway. But honestly I'd finally feel like the roster for this game is complete if Fujin/Rain/Baraka/LiMei/Sindel made it in, they'll be last of the somewhat vital story mode NPCs made playable.
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Where's Fujin?

01/15/2016 06:33 PM (UTC)
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There's no way you will see Baraka in MKX now.
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01/15/2016 06:46 PM (UTC)
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lol @ people even mentioning Li Mei. She sucked bad. No one wants her. You're crazy! Hsu Hao, Meat and Mokap over her any day !
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01/17/2016 10:03 AM (UTC)
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lol @ people even mentioning Li Mei. She sucked bad. No one wants her. You're crazy! Hsu Hao, Meat and Mokap over her any day !


Um, quite a few people want her. She is my most wanted character!
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01/17/2016 10:47 AM (UTC)
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Asesino Wrote:
lol @ people even mentioning Li Mei. She sucked bad. No one wants her. You're crazy! Hsu Hao, Meat and Mokap over her any day !


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01/17/2016 11:55 AM (UTC)
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Fujin will never be playable, Baraka will never be part of MK again, Sindel has a shot, Rain has a chance to come back some day if the focus will be on Edenia.
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01/17/2016 01:10 PM (UTC)
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barakall Wrote:
Fujin will never be playable, Baraka will never be part of MK again, Sindel has a shot, Rain has a chance to come back some day if the focus will be on Edenia.


Playing up the dramatics much? They brought back Fujin for a cameo while many, MANY others were overlooked. That says something. Baraka was a legacy character in MKvDC over Johnny fucking Cage. That says something. Sindel and Rain both got cameos in this game as NPC's due to their popularity. That says something.

C'mon guys..... wow
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01/17/2016 02:39 PM (UTC)
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LOL Look, I'm no die-hard Baraka fan, like at all, but I find it hilarious how people have been acting as if Baraka is some obscure 3D era character who never has a chance of returning again or that he's "not popular".

Wtf? Baraka is one of THE most recognizable MK characters and has been a series regular just like every other MK1/MK2 character. As KenshiMasters stated, he even fucking made it into the tight limited roster space for MKVSDC- beating out Johnny Cage, Mileena, Reptile, and Kung-Lao. Everyone knows Baraka is an extremely popular character so I fell to see why people keep acting as if he doesn't have any notoriety at all or that he wouldn't "sell" as DLC. It's fucking Baraka. Every character misses out on a game now and again, this is the first game Baraka has missed out on in over ten years- He was in Deception, Armageddon, MKVSDCU, and MK9.

As for him being DLC- Sadly that has been ruined thanks to them pathetically merging him and fucking Alien. I don't know what in the fucking world made them think Baraka fans would be happy playing with a fucking Xenomorph with Baraka's blades than actually playing as...well...you know- BARAKA! Stupid move. But I expect to see Baraka back in action come MK11 as in the default roster or perhaps DLC for that game. Sucks, if the rest of the story mode characters(Rain, Sindel, Li Mei, Fujin) all do become playable for MKX in the near future then Baraka fans would just have to wait until 2019 because I don't seem them putting him in now thanks to fucking Alien. Unless of course they just say screw it and make him DLC anyway despite Alien, then I could roll with that. I'm not buying Alien anyway.
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01/17/2016 04:33 PM (UTC)
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But Baraka, Sindel and Rain are not DLC characters, cuz they are on the disc! We already have them, they need to just give us a key to unlock them. I disagree that cuz of Alien, Baraka won't show. Look at SF they have like 666 clones of RUY with the same fucking moves and look, look at Frost and Sub-Zero, look at MKT ninjas Smoke and Scorp, MK2 Noob and Smoke and Scorp.

Ninjas sharing moves is very common in mk, slides, teleports, spear... The tobots share same uppercut. So you point is not valid. Baraka could fucking unique character with his own moves. We saw Alien using only the chopping move, and the MK 2 fatality scene, but other than that there is nothing else that reminds of Baraka except the blades and the teeth.
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Where's Fujin?

01/17/2016 05:48 PM (UTC)
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Just a key to unlock Rain, Baraka and Sindel? Jesus, give me a break. There's no wonder you get so pissed at NRS, if you insist on making up such total bullshit to make yourself feel better.

By all means bitch at NRS over valid concerns - i.e. Goro being complete and on disc at launch as a pre-order bonus - but don't make things up. Those three fighters do not have variations, fatalities, brutalities, intro dialogues, etc. If they added them, people would (rightfully) bitch they felt cheap and unfinished, which they would be.
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