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01/15/2016 01:20 PM (UTC)
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I really like the visuals in MKX, and the character design is (on the whole) excellent. My only real complaint is that the alt. colour schemes are quite bland.
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01/15/2016 01:27 PM (UTC)
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Thats how a cool scorpion looks like.
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01/15/2016 04:07 PM (UTC)
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mandead Wrote:
I really like the visuals in MKX, and the character design is (on the whole) excellent. My only real complaint is that the alt. colour schemes are quite bland.


Agreed. I hope they keep this style for the future. The aesthetic is dark and more gritty this time. I actually like some of the alternate colour schemes. Scorpion main custume alt I think is his best costume to date. The all black with gold trim. He looks more like a ninja and less like a power ranger. I really hope NRS go with something like that for the future. Black with yellow/gold trim rather than the yellow V-top he has.
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01/15/2016 04:13 PM (UTC)
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xysion Wrote:
mandead Wrote:
I really like the visuals in MKX, and the character design is (on the whole) excellent. My only real complaint is that the alt. colour schemes are quite bland.


Agreed. I hope they keep this style for the future. The aesthetic is dark and more gritty this time. I actually like some of the alternate colour schemes. Scorpion main custume alt I think is his best costume to date. The all black with gold trim. He looks more like a ninja and less like a power ranger. I really hope NRS go with something like that for the future. Black with yellow/gold trim rather than the yellow V-top he has.

Yeah, Scorpion's is great because it's just his normal colour scheme but inverted, so you get more black and less gold. It really suits him. I just wish that other characters had more adventurous alts... Kitana's is just a darker shade of blue, and Quan Chi's is grey-ish. Not very exciting. There's plenty you could do with both of those characters. Ermac too.
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01/15/2016 05:13 PM (UTC)
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mandead Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
mandead Wrote:
I really like the visuals in MKX, and the character design is (on the whole) excellent. My only real complaint is that the alt. colour schemes are quite bland.


Agreed. I hope they keep this style for the future. The aesthetic is dark and more gritty this time. I actually like some of the alternate colour schemes. Scorpion main custume alt I think is his best costume to date. The all black with gold trim. He looks more like a ninja and less like a power ranger. I really hope NRS go with something like that for the future. Black with yellow/gold trim rather than the yellow V-top he has.

Yeah, Scorpion's is great because it's just his normal colour scheme but inverted, so you get more black and less gold. It really suits him. I just wish that other characters had more adventurous alts... Kitana's is just a darker shade of blue, and Quan Chi's is grey-ish. Not very exciting. There's plenty you could do with both of those characters. Ermac too.


ugh ^^ emo's. "its best looking scorpion ever". Go suck on eachothers ***. Im sorry but you both make no sense. Scorpion doesnt even look like a ninja in MKx.

Just be honest and say that you both never liked ninjas in MK, let alone the asian elements in the franchise.

Also dark, Mk never meant to be a darkroom. I know yall dream of it. But dark as in a dark atmosphereic game. Fake MK fans. Emo's. Such a sad thing to be a fan of MK.
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01/15/2016 05:17 PM (UTC)
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mandead Wrote:
Yeah, Scorpion's is great because it's just his normal colour scheme but inverted, so you get more black and less gold. It really suits him. I just wish that other characters had more adventurous alts... Kitana's is just a darker shade of blue, and Quan Chi's is grey-ish. Not very exciting. There's plenty you could do with both of those characters. Ermac too


I had to go through them and some of them are pretty much bland. I noticed the best one are the ones that had a two colour dichtonomy for example Scorpion, Shinnok and Mileena looked great with alternate colours. On the whole the ones that looked the worst were the costumes that had one colour on them or many multiple elements that stayed the same. On the alternate colour they just got a different shade of the main colour. Cassie looked decent though.
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01/15/2016 05:36 PM (UTC)
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ugh ^^ emo's. "its best looking scorpion ever". Go suck on eachothers ***.


LOL. What is wrong with you? You manchild. Grow up and learn to accept other people's opinions.

MindStrikes Wrote:Im sorry but you both make no sense. Scorpion doesnt even look like a ninja in MKx.


We are giving our opinion and just because you do not agree with it, does not mean it does not make sense.

MindStrikes Wrote:

Just be honest and say that you both never liked ninjas in MK, let alone the asian elements in the franchise.


What the hell are you talking about? Scorpion is my favourite character and Human Smoke is second favourite. You are delusional.

MindStrikes Wrote:
Also dark, Mk never meant to be a darkroom. I know yall dream of it. But dark as in a dark atmosphereic game. Fake MK fans. Emo's. Such a sad thing to be a fan of MK.


MKX is what it is and it is dark. Get over it. It does not matter if you think it was never meant to be like that. If you do not like it just do what you said in your previous post and just drop the series. Throw the baby out with the bath water. Chuck your toys out of the pram just because you did not get what you wanted. Bye bye.
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01/15/2016 05:39 PM (UTC)
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MindStrikes, the pictures you're comparing MKX to are statues and fan art...that's not representative of how they actually looked like.

Imo, the characters in MK9 looked like were wearing goofy halloween costumes. The designs in MKX are on a different league Imo in both design and modeling. I can't comprehend how you find the animations were better either.
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01/15/2016 05:47 PM (UTC)
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Case in point:





All the returning characters look better, and not just technically.


...And before MK9, this is how a ninja looked like, (ugly) action figures:




I like the p2 color of Reptile's alt. Brown looks just like Erron Black.



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01/16/2016 03:33 AM (UTC)
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Yes, MKX story could have focused more on the main threat the Boss of the game and still showcase the new hero's. But 75% play for the fighting not the extra modes and It is the best ever in this game!!!

I believe that NRS delivered the best fighting game they could in the time WB gave them.
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01/17/2016 05:15 PM (UTC)
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Here's everything i found wrong with MKX.


The app / console crossover. NRS didn't learn their lesson from Injustice. Instead of listening to the criticism by fans who HATED that some content was exclusive to linking the two together, they viewed the figures of those that were able to do so (grudgingly or not), leaving the rest of us in the dust. So they followed the same formula for MKX, leaving me unable to obtain certain cards in the app, and my friend unable to obtain certain skins/content on his console. DAMMIT NRS, if you're going to make a game, make it fucking complete! There's nothing wrong with having a mobile version to promote the console version as long as the two don't have to be tethered to unlock everything.

The colour scheme. I'm not making a point about MK games of the past being more 'saturated' and MKX being 'darker' because that fits the gritty atmosphere. No, this particular criticism is about the HUD. It's minimalist to the point of bland. Plain white health bars, plain white power meters, tiny symbols and the OMISSION of victory skulls in favour of a circle!?!?

Story mode. The plot is full of holes and really needed more focus on the Outworld civil war. Also, after having just read the comics, there are a fuckton of details that should not have been left to be explained in side media – e.g. Sub-Zero's transformation from Cyber back to human form, or why Hanzo has Scorpion's hellfire.

Costumes. Kung Lao, Liu Kang & Kitana have not just costumes, but also full personas with interactions and variations that are non-canon and incongruous by their inclusion as a 'what-if' scenario, i.e. 'what if' they were revived with Scorp, Jax and SubZ. Wouldn't it have been easier to just resurrect them too and leave the others (Sindel, Nightwolf, Smoke etc) as revenants to save, making their presence slightly more important.

Offline content. There's too much online, and very little to do offline. After story, Krypt and regular towers there's nothing unless you have that all-important internet connection, which still not everyone has. Faction wars and living towers mean nothing if you can't use them. Also, what was the point of having towers that change daily and hourly? The monthly one I get – that's enough time to have at it a few times without getting bored. MK9 at least had the challenge tower which I STILL return to for fun.

X-rays & Finishers. This is a bit of an odd one. It's not that I don't like the X-rays, but they just destroy my willing suspension of disbelief. No way someone, even a meta-human could have their face stomped on or ribs broken then get up and continue fighting without having severe problems. As for the finishers, considering there are so many family members, it seems conspicuously out of place that there's no 'nice' way to end a match with a friendship or babality or something.

DLC. DLC is bad, end of. It's an obvious manoeuvre to drain more money from the consumers for content that should have been included in the first place. Case in point: Goro, Tanya and Tremor. (Not Jason & Predator, because guests being 'extra' add-ons makes more sense. However, Tanya was even in story mode and Goro is a staple character in the series.) The fact that Goro was pre-order bait means he was fully ready and should have been on the disc, and for those that can't download content then what? Whatever happened to unlocking content through gameplay? Oh yeah, too many whiny bitches. Seriously, what's the point of even owning the games if you don't want to play through everything it has to offer? I thought MKDA & MKD had it right to keep locked characters there on the select screen as an incentive to make people go though the game more. As for KP1, being announced a week before release just proves that it was intended all along, and held back for post-release (despite what the devs say).

KP2. The choices of characters are controversial at best. There's no denying that. To quote myself:
Here's the inherent problem with guests: Having a guest or two suggests cross-franchise teamwork. Where one franchise approves so much of another they let that other include their property, and vice versa the other gains approval from not just the franchise but their fans too. However, having THIS MANY guests all from HORROR MOVIES clusterfuck up the roster of an MK game tells me that NRS doesn't have enough faith in their own creations to hold up to scrutiny, when in fact the converse should be true. This is the game they should be proudest of.

No PS3/X360 release. This one is the worst decision they made all year. It STILL stings, like a dagger of betrayal to the heart of my loyalty, and I can't do anything about it. I want to see how far the development got, and why that apparently wasn't good enough. Even if it's not quite as good as MK9 I'll take it, because I just don't WANT another console, least of all one that's a steaming turd. (Looking at you, Xbone.)
If they can make a compressed version of MK9 for the Vita, and a graphically limited version of MKX for smartphones, why couldn't they do the same here? I would think that the 'best selling fighting game of 2015' would want to be available to as many people as possible. I would think it would have the resources to do so – I mean there are other games that have accomplished this, and some that haven't,but with the financial backing of WB, wouldn't it make more sense to try and earn MORE? Or at the very least honour those to whom they promised to deliver, making themselves the good guys at potential minor loss? I don't know, all i know is i am without the opportunity to own the game, and can only play it when i visit my friend who lives TWO COUNTIES away.
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01/17/2016 05:41 PM (UTC)
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No PS3/360 release was not a mistake. The mistake was to announce it to begin with. They knew they'd be releasing an inferior product - possibly with missing features - and that's why it never happened. I bought an XB1 specifically for MKX as I was doubtful about the last gen versions and I knew the PC version would be shit.

NRS should just have been up-front from the beginning and said they weren't making a last gen version.
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01/17/2016 06:13 PM (UTC)
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I somewhat agree with TC. There is a reason why the first 2 MK games were very successful. Especially MK2. All those beautiful backgrounds of Outworld and the memorable music. MK Deception was the closest thing to have that whole "Asian" theme that old school MK was known for. I rarely see it in MKX. The Sky Temple, Lin Kuei temple, Liu vs. Lao with arguing who's kung fu is better, Kitana's designs, Kenshi's samurai outfit, Subzero's Revenant costume, the way Liu Kang fights. A lot of that stuff brings old memories that stay in tune with the whole Asian theme.

That's why I welcome characters like Bo' Rai Cho over anyone else. He's like a character from an old Kung fu movie, besides the farting. The burping stuff was in the movie drunken master.

A lot of the backgrounds in MKX seem like they're just backdrops taken out of an apocalyptic film or from ancient Aztec, Egyptian themes (for the sake of Kotal Kahn). I think they're just trying out new things. Even the snow forest which is my favorite stage, lacks some of that mystique that MK had when compared to say Living forest.

The only music I can remember from MKX comes from 3 stages. Look at how amazing KI3's soundtrack is. It sticks in your mind.

Even most of the fatalities make this game seem a little different. Compared to MK9, or even any previous MK, when the character performs a fatality, the screen shows the winning character doing an honorable win pose. In MKX, the character that was mutilated and his body parts are the last thing you see, and that's where the horror theme comes in.

Case in point, look at both of Kenshi's fatalities. The windmill fatality has him shake off the blood from his sword and does a badass samurai pose. PERFECT. His other fatality "my puppet", gives them an honorable bow like (I'm sorry I fucked you up pretty bad but now you're in peace).. Then you have say Tremor's fatality with the spikes, you see the headless body with blood gushing out, instead of the camera showing back to Tremor and doing a win pose. A lot of fatalities are brutal horror film style fatalities, instead of martial artsy, stylish fatalities.

The character designs are fine, I have no complaints. I like the tone of color that this game has going, but I wouldn't mind if they were as colorful as MK9's tone. MKX is the darkest game.

Best thing MKX has going for itself is the fighting engine. It's very smooth, animations are great and the gameplay is fast. It's hard going back to MK9 and it does feel clunky in comparison.
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01/17/2016 07:15 PM (UTC)
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People complained for fucking AGES about MK being too colorful , bright, vibrant, ALMOST rainbow & butterflies.

People bitched to have a dark and gritty atmosphere, with a darker palette and more realistic human faces and anatomy.


A lot of people complained about Johnny Cage looking like an action figure in MK 9.




Now, We finally have all these.... And we moan back ti have more colorful, bright, cartoonish game?


Again, Ed Boon should stop listening to the fans.
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01/18/2016 01:22 AM (UTC)
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I have no problem with the look or colors, I think its looked the best it ever has, I just think the concepts were crap


stages were crap. roster was crap, story was crap.

xrays were crap, everything is the head an chest....fuck how about some legs an arms, and clavicles.....

fatalities were crap....vertical slice, holes in chest x 2200000
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01/18/2016 07:30 PM (UTC)
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mandead Wrote:
No PS3/360 release was not a mistake. The mistake was to announce it to begin with. They knew they'd be releasing an inferior product - possibly with missing features - and that's why it never happened. I bought an XB1 specifically for MKX as I was doubtful about the last gen versions and I knew the PC version would be shit.

NRS should just have been up-front from the beginning and said they weren't making a last gen version.


No, they had no idea anything would be inferior when they announced that promise. There's no way i could or would buy a new console just for one game. (I really mean that, there's no new games that interest me from the new gen consoles).

Still doesn't help me and all the others who were let down by this decision. I would take a sub-par version over nothing, ideally not too dissimilar to MK9's graphics/pacing. I mean, how bad could it have been? Again I say I wish to see how far that development got.
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01/18/2016 07:30 PM (UTC)
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Everything, from the object in the BG and character costumes in MKx have the same brown and grey tone it's too much. Some green and purples would not hurt the game.

Also do the ninjas dont remind me of their original designs. They look very bulky and all have leather based costumes now. Too much iron, and random stuff on the costumes. They dont remind me much of ninjas. especially the eastern inspired ninjas.

What i really dont get is how some here say it s the best MK in the series?! Its cool if MKx is your favorite. Really as much i rant about MKx, i can respect that. But if you claim to be a fan of MK from the 2D/3D era and still say MKx is the best in the series, Thats were i get errors in my brain.

Thing is MKx is nothing like the older games. How they represent the characters, stages, music and mytholgy is very different if not lost. I dont see the logic to favorite a game in the series that has not the elements that made you a fan of the series. Atleast if youre a fan of the MK games before MK armageddon.
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01/19/2016 12:40 AM (UTC)
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I agree, it looks and plays the best in my opinion.....but everything about it sucks, I played this the least out of ALL games...i played it for like a month....then I was like meh....I cant get into it, I dont wanna try any of the characters.....the stages suck, the characters suck.....it just has no rpely value due to the roster, lack of stages an stage fatalities.....i mean, how do you go from say the dead pool in mk2 an mkD an mk9.....to having nothing in mkx......

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01/19/2016 02:08 AM (UTC)
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Honestly, I wonder what universe people live in thinking MK9 has better character designs than MKX. Have you seen MK9's characters recently? Good if you want a laugh. I also think the story is a lot better. I like MKX. Better than MK9 for me.
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01/19/2016 02:36 AM (UTC)
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yeah the designs in mk9 were fucking stupid


but the amount of stages an inclusion of stage fatalities were a plus....

but I say what universe are people living on who think mkx story was good, a bunch of kids saving the world lol

a bunch of cliche shit

the empowered black women
the closet faggot tough guy made for sjw's
the typical hollywood brat
the nerdy asian kid.....


gimme a break
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01/19/2016 03:15 AM (UTC)
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Only problems I had with MKX are as follows:

Skeletons are too clean, looked better bloody with a little meat left on in MK9.

Stage Fatalities are missed. :(

No Tag Team :(

Sonya never gets to explain her breast reduction :(

I miss Freddy and Kratos....and Kobra.

Thanks Erron Black.

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01/19/2016 07:57 AM (UTC)
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MindStrikes Wrote:
Everything, from the object in the BG and character costumes in MKx have the same brown and grey tone it's too much. Some green and purples would not hurt the game.

Also do the ninjas dont remind me of their original designs. They look very bulky and all have leather based costumes now. Too much iron, and random stuff on the costumes. They dont remind me much of ninjas. especially the eastern inspired ninjas.

What i really dont get is how some here say it s the best MK in the series?! Its cool if MKx is your favorite. Really as much i rant about MKx, i can respect that. But if you claim to be a fan of MK from the 2D/3D era and still say MKx is the best in the series, Thats were i get errors in my brain.

Thing is MKx is nothing like the older games. How they represent the characters, stages, music and mytholgy is very different if not lost. I dont see the logic to favorite a game in the series that has not the elements that made you a fan of the series. Atleast if youre a fan of the MK games before MK armageddon.



I am a fan from the 2d era and MK was never coherent with itself to begin with.
According to MK2 intro "only seven characters survived the tournament", and then in MK 3 this is immediatly retconned.

The dark and gritty atmosphere were highly requested by majority of fanbase. And I like it over the bright and colorful enviroments of MK2, MK3, MK 4 and Armageddon. So yeah, I liked it more brown and grey, because it fits better to a deadly martial arts tournament. If I wanted a cartoonish experience about martial arts I'd watch a Dragon Ball episode instead. But I hate Dragon Ball.
Mk is in the business from 20 years and more, it is natural to change and EVOLVE since its debut.
I like the direction they're taking.

The ninjas design is the best in the series. Compare MK X Sub Zero with MK 9's, and you'll have a laugh. Honestly, all the returning characters have never looked better. And this is the general consensus.

I am a huge Spider Man fan, and that character isn't the same from the one in the 60's. Characters, looks, atmosphere, art direction, etc need to change over time. The original Trilogy of games was good because introduced to series to the general audience, but it was cheesy as hell.
Now MK is trying to take itself seriously, for once.
MK X gave us a twist that was long needed.

To be honest, Ed Boon should have done the MK X treatment waaaaaay before MK X.
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01/19/2016 11:19 AM (UTC)
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I think MKX looks and plays great. As far as the story goes, yeah it's not the best - but most fighting games don't even have a proper story mode, it's just arcade mode with character endings, which this game has as well as an actual story mode.

My issues lie with the roster choices for the most part. Characters that are fairly prominent in the story such as Tanya and Rain are excluded from the main roster in favour of mainstays who are dead. I would have thought the marketing division of NRS would have seen how much these mainstay characters would sell as DLC, and then included characters that fans have been asking for like Tanya, Rain and Fujin in the main game instead. Personally I would have kept either Sonya/Johnny and Jax as NPC's (and later DLC) in favour of more 3D era returnees like Li Mei or Havik to freshen it up a bit, as we are left with many characters who have similar abilities.

As far as four guest characters go, I'm still angry. But I understand they will unfortunately make NRS a lot more money than any actual MK characters.
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01/19/2016 01:46 PM (UTC)
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@lastfighter89 @johnny1up @CISIS @JAX007

MK9 had alot of the same crap i see in MKx. But some characters were really wel designed. My favorite costumes are NOT from mk9 or x. The ninjas i prefer simple and ninja like as in the first 3 games. I dont compare MKx with MK9 that much. Only when it comes to the color pallette and stages.

I read everybody say MK9 was terrible. Not so fair, some characters looked good. Some of my favorites designs in MK9,

Noob saibot, costume, move set and intro looked really good.
Shang tsung, looked very good. The snakes the colors on his costume.
Ermac. intro, move set and his second alt was cool.
Sektor and cyrax, Smoke, Baraka, Nightwolf looked good too. I dont need too much details to like certain things. Less is more sometimes.

I didnt like the ninja designs in MK9 besides Ermac and Noob. The classic costumes looked lame too. And i agree that the characters designs looked very action figure like. MKx is graphicly a step up but not color wise imo. MK2 is considerd as the best MK to alot of fans. It presented the mytholgie and visuals best in the series. Not just time related, it still looks gorgeous today.

MK2 felt dark, darker than MKx. MK2 proved that a dark game is not just a dark toned screen. It's how they combined the characters, music and stages to set the setting. I think it's these elements combined that created the dark setting for MK2, not discarding the colors.
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