The Black Dragon Clan
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posted03/17/2010 03:18 PM (UTC)by
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12/18/2009 07:44 PM (UTC)
Hey everyone!

Is anyone familiar with the Black Dragon organisation? I know that Kano was once the leader of that group, but now...? Is it Kabal? Or Kano gain is place back in MK:Armaggedon?

Is Jarek still in the Black Dragon, or did he leave when he apparently died in MK4?

Kobra and Kira are in the clan. Are they like... simple thugs?

So, the main question is about the leadership of the Black Dragon.

And, last bonus question: is the Red Dragon Organisation as old as the Black Dragon? And if yes, is it a criminal Earth organisation too?

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12/22/2009 05:10 PM (UTC)
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In regards to the last question:

According to the mythos, Daegon(Taven's Brother from MKA) started the Red Dragon after his premature release for Blaze's Quest, the black dragon was created later by Red Dragon members who had problems with the Red Dragon system(I can't remember what it was exactly), in other words, the Red Dragon came years before the Black Dragon.
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12/22/2009 07:19 PM (UTC)
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Kano hasn't been in the Black Dragon since he disappeared into Outworld at the end of MK1. They were without a leader and eventually all caught or dead by MK4, with Jarek being the last one.

Then Kabal reformed them in Deception and is the current leader.
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01/01/2010 07:12 PM (UTC)
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The entire Black Dragon was killed off by the Red Dragon, except for Kabal,
Who is basically a black dragon foot soldier who continually gets his ass kicked (first by the outworld extermination squads, then by Mavado). He is saved from the brink of death by Havik. Havik wants Kabal to rebuild the black dragon as a force of chaos in the realms.

Kano betrayed the Black Dragon so he could join Shao Kahn in Outworld a long time ago and he doesn't appear to be coming back.

Jareks whereabouts are unknown since MKA wasn't canon. I assume he's dead?

Kabal is slowly rebuilding the Black Dragon, and Kobra or Kira is the first new member depending on who won the fight at the end of Deception. If that ending is even accurate.

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01/03/2010 01:29 AM (UTC)
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Hey all!

I''v read that Jarek was left for dead. But in fact, he was almost dead (classic situation) and leave far away to practice more brutale and cruel fatalitys. He came back for MKA.
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01/03/2010 05:00 AM (UTC)
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Xavieur_Cage Wrote:
Hey all!

I''v read that Jarek was left for dead. But in fact, he was almost dead (classic situation) and leave far away to practice more brutale and cruel fatalitys. He came back for MKA.


I'm guessing you didn't read this:

GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:

Jareks whereabouts are unknown since MKA wasn't canon. I assume he's dead?
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01/03/2010 06:54 AM (UTC)
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GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
Jareks whereabouts are unknown since MKA wasn't canon. I assume he's dead?

Unless I missed something, when did MKA become non-canon?
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01/03/2010 02:30 PM (UTC)
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XiahouDun84 Wrote:
GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
Jareks whereabouts are unknown since MKA wasn't canon. I assume he's dead?

Unless I missed something, when did MKA become non-canon?


I agree with you. The ending of the characters ARE not canon, but the beggening is suppose to be.
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01/03/2010 08:56 PM (UTC)
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I just figured the entire game was a throw-away since they didnt even bother finishing the character bios.

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01/05/2010 01:57 AM (UTC)
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Xavieur_Cage Wrote:
XiahouDun84 Wrote:
GrotesquetheBeast Wrote:
Jareks whereabouts are unknown since MKA wasn't canon. I assume he's dead?

Unless I missed something, when did MKA become non-canon?


I agree with you. The ending of the characters ARE not canon, but the beggening is suppose to be.

you've got it partially backwards

the intro is not canon, if it was, Kenshi, Sheeva, and a few other characters wouldn't be in the game, and Taven's ending is the only one that can be confirmed as canon, because there is no next game to confirm any others and he was the main character in Konquest.
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01/12/2010 11:04 AM (UTC)
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Jironobou Wrote:
the intro is not canon, if it was, Kenshi, Sheeva, and a few other characters wouldn't be in the game, and Taven's ending is the only one that can be confirmed as canon, because there is no next game to confirm any others and he was the main character in Konquest.


1) There's no proof those wounds in the intro were fatal. MK characters can take a LOT of damage, even being sliced open and run through, before the lights finally go out.
Besides, just because a character is playable in arcade mode doesn't mean anything to the plot. If climbing the ladder were relevant to the story, then why do fights happen in the Armory and Subway and places like that? How did they get from the pyramid to there?

2) Taven's ending might actually not be the one. All Konquest mode says is "an unforseen third outcome occured" or something like that and leaves the specifics vague and you have to beat Arcade mode to get the rest, the part about Taven accidentally making everyone in the crater stronger.
But Daegon's ending ALSO involves Taven fighting Blaze and a third outcome occurring, but seems more likely of the two, because it's the only ending in the game that actually confirms Argus and Delia faked their own deaths and are still alive, which is hinted at in other places and therefore makes more sense than Taven's ending.

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01/24/2010 05:54 PM (UTC)
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To my understanding, the Red Dragon was started by Daegon, who is the son of Argus and has ties to the Edenian Gods. He was re-born on Earth, and used the Red Dragon to further his plans. Many within the Red Dragon became impatient, and wanted to be a more "active" force, and they split off. According to the Mortal Kombat universe, I think the founder of Aikido started the Black Dragon clan (something like that, anyway). The Black Dragon and the Red Dragon became enemies as of this moment, and the Red Dragon planned to wipe out the Black Dragon in its entirety.

It's possible that over time, the Black Dragon might have deteriorated, and became more thuggish, and perhaps even lost knowledge of the Red Dragon's existence. But eventually, Kano found himself to be the leader of the Black Dragon, and after MK1 found himself trapped in Outworld. He decided to align himself with Shao Kahn, putting his own life above that of the rest of humanity -- including his Black Dragon clan. Kabal, however, survived as a chosen warrior, but found himself mutilated by Shao Kahn's extermination squads.

Kabal and Kano both survived MK3 (albeit not without a few injuries), although Kabal wanted no more to do with the Black Dragon -- having a new lease on life. Kano was still serving Shao Kahn in Outworld as his new general, and the Black Dragon was hunted down by both the secretive Red Dragon, and the Special Forces led by Jax.

Jarek was the last remaining member of the clan, but he was believed to have been killed by Jax, I believe. Everything was good on Earth, until one of the Special Forces members revealed themselves to be a Red Dragon member, and blew up the Special Forces base, killing a lot of Jax and Sonya's allies (non-playable characters in the story). Hsu Hao was using the Special Forces under Mavado's orders to hunt down Black Dragon members, but with the "death" of Jarek, the Special Forces were nothing but a threat.Jax made it his mission to kill Hsu Hao, and Sonya would later have a vision where she discovered that Mavado, a member of the Red Dragon (whom she had not yet met), was apparently her greatest foe.

Mavado fought Kabal, and defeated him, and took his prized hookswords as a trophy. But apparently Mavado's MO is not leave people to die -- and he left Kabal for too long, and Havik from the Chaosrealm found him. Healing his wounds, Havik suggested that Kabal reform the Black Dragon to serve the cause of chaos. Kabal is obviously a pretty messed puppy by this point, always nearly dying and shit. Kabal recruits a sadistic and cunning woman named Kira, and a ruthless street fighter named Kobra to his new Black Dragon.

Mavado proved to be quite a capable fighter. He defeated Kenshi, but again, left his opponent for dead rather than kill them. This allowed Kenshi to be saved by Sub-Zero. Mavado did this on behalf of the Deadly Alliance (Shang Tsung and Quan Chi), who then rewarded Mavado by allowing him to fight Kano -- believed to be the last remnant of the Black Dragon. Kano had seen the fall of Shao Kahn at Shang Tsung and Quan Chi's hands, and being the adapter that he is, chose to survive by pledging alliegence to the Deadly Alliance. Mavado defeated Kano, however, and earned the Deadly Alliance's favour. Mavado would not kill Kano, however, and instead took Kano back to Earthrealm, where he was experimented on by Daegon and the Red Dragon. It appears that the Red Dragon likes to dabble in the occult and such. These experiences apparently left Kano "altered," and Mavado would be all happy and stuff, until he realised that half of the people he has killed are still alive and hate his guts.

Kabal would return and defeat Mavado, and would take back his hookswords. I'm not sure if we know what officially happened to Mavado, because by now the MK Team had apparently lost interest in him. My guess is that Kabal left Mavado alive, giving him the same chance that Mavado gave him. Or maybe he just flipped a coin Harvey Dent style? He took his sweet jacket, though. This makes them 1-1. Mavado also has a renewed purpose, as the Black Dragon is back. Kano manages to escape the Red Dragon's clutches, and there is another guy who must hate Mavado. Oh yeah, and Jax killed Hsu Hao a while back. Kabal also made Kira and Kobra fight, as there can only be one apprentice of the dark side. I got the feeling Kira would win a fight such as this.

But yeah, I think that's a summary of the Red Dragon/Black Dragon stuff.
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01/26/2010 03:05 PM (UTC)
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All of that is pretty much right, except for one bit at the end.
The fight between Kira and Kobra to decide who's the most worthy hasn't happened yet. It was supposed to take place after the Black Dragon attacked/distracted the heroes who defeated Onaga, allowing Havik to sneak in and steal the heart from Onaga's corpse, which he wanted because it would grant him resurrection powers.

But Onaga had no corpse. He turned back into Reptile when he was defeated, instead. That blew the whole plan and so none of those Deception endings are canon and instead, they all just went back to Earthrealm, where Taven runs into them in the first level of MKA Konquest.
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01/27/2010 07:34 PM (UTC)
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Ah, I see. That is good, actually, because it means that Kira nor Kobra has actually died yet. I'm sure they are bound to, but it's good to have some characters who aren't on the third life or anything.
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01/30/2010 08:26 PM (UTC)
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03/17/2010 10:12 AM (UTC)
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well the thing about Kabal is that he started out as a black dragon clan member but if you have read his bio in MK:Deception It says that he has left the black dragon and made his own clan known as the "red dragon"...
anyway he also says "piece out" to the black dragon in MK:SM you just gotta play it..
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03/17/2010 03:18 PM (UTC)
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Wingman1337 Wrote:
well the thing about Kabal is that he started out as a black dragon clan member but if you have read his bio in MK:Deception It says that he has left the black dragon and made his own clan known as the "red dragon"...
anyway he also says "piece out" to the black dragon in MK:SM you just gotta play it..


Kabal never left his clan to make the "Red Dragon." When he was left for dead, Havik found him and ordered him to go back to his clan. He's still a Black Dragon member.

The only thing that associates with the Red Dragon in his biography was the clan that Mavado was from, who attacked him and left him for dead.
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