Why is it commonly accepted that Kitana was a baby when Kahn invaded? Wrong!
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posted12/31/2015 02:13 AM (UTC)by
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mattteo
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07/04/2014 12:09 PM (UTC)

Does it come only from the Legacy tv series clusterf**k ? They are almost entirely wrong in that tv series. That's the only portrayal I know of that represents Kitana as a baby when Kahn invaded.

In Sindel's original ending for MK3, Kitana is shown as a little girl (10-12 years old ) during Kahn's invasion of Edenia.

http://www.angelfire.com/art2/queensindel/sindel7.html

More evidence that she was not an infant comes from Rain's ending in MK Trilogy, which implies a connection between him and Kitana (unknown if friendly, romantic or something else) before the Edenian War.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0oBq4OMGlQ

Kitana was portrayed as a teenager during Shao Kahn's assault on Edenia in the non-canon Defenders of the Realm series, and as much as I'd hate that animated series, that's the best representation of Kitana in the Edenian days

http://rq87.flyingomelette.com/RQ/C/MK/13/13.html

and similarly in the MK Conquest series, where she reveals that her father had trusted her with Edenia's essence before Shao Kahn took the Capital.

http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Dara_Tomanovich


In the canon games, Kitana recognizes her mother Sindel both in Mortal Kombat 3 and in the Mortal Kombat reboot from 2011. She has memories about her mother. She could not have had these if her mother had killed herself when she was an infant.
She also recognizes her mother in the non-canon movie.

The possible answer for her submission to Shao Kahn was given in the non-canon adventure game “Shaolin Monks”, where she was placed under Kahn's sorcery mind spell to obey him and not remember her past. That explanation was not well received by the fans back then, but it certainly seems like a good one after some years have passed. It could also explain why in the 2011 reboot she has absolutely no recollection of growing up with another Mileena clone, though Jade seems to know such clones exist and attempts to stop Kitana from venturing into Shang Tsung's Flesh Pits where a new Mileena is born. This explanation even works well with the non-canon ending of Mortal Kombat Conquest where Kahn punished her for her failed rebellion.

Whichever explanation you accept (that she knew all along who her parents were or that she was under a spell to forget her origins) she certainly wasn't an infant when Edenia was attacked. And considering that the Edenian Resistance and Protector God Argus held Shao Kahn for quite some years after the loss ot the 10th tournament (enough for Rain to grow from an orphan boy to a young warrior), she may have grown up into a beautiful young woman during the War.

But why is this convention, that she was an infant? I've seen this stated many times (but only in the last few years). Is it all because of that awful Legacy episode with the unmasked Kahn and the orcs from TLOTR?

Sorry if I posted this multiple times.
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12/26/2015 05:30 AM (UTC)
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The MK3 Storyline:
"For centuries, Earth has used Mortal Kombat to defend itself against Outworld's Emperor, Shao Kahn. But Kahn grows frustrated by failed attempts to take Earth through tournament batle. He enacts a plan which began 10,000 years ago. During that time, he had a Queen. Her name was Sindel..."
And Sindel's MK3 bio:
"Sindel once ruled Outword at Shao Kahn's side as his Queen. Now 10,000 years after her untimely death...."

If Sindel was Shao Kahn's bride 10,000 years ago, he must therefore have already conquered Edenia. And since Kitana is 10,000 years old, she must therefore had only just been born at the time.


mattteo Wrote:

The possible answer for her submission to Shao Kahn was given in the non-canon adventure game “Shaolin Monks”, where she was placed under Kahn's sorcery mind spell to obey him and not remember her past. That explanation was not well received by the fans back then, but it certainly seems like a good one after some years have passed.


No, it really isn't a good explanation.

But fine, whatever. Believe non-canon sources and bullshit about spells and brainwashing.
Anything to make Kitana less interesting and more boring, eh?
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12/26/2015 10:44 AM (UTC)
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XiahouDun84 Wrote:
The MK3 Storyline:
"For centuries, Earth has used Mortal Kombat to defend itself against Outworld's Emperor, Shao Kahn. But Kahn grows frustrated by failed attempts to take Earth through tournament batle. He enacts a plan which began 10,000 years ago. During that time, he had a Queen. Her name was Sindel..."
And Sindel's MK3 bio:
"Sindel once ruled Outword at Shao Kahn's side as his Queen. Now 10,000 years after her untimely death...."

If Sindel was Shao Kahn's bride 10,000 years ago, he must therefore have already conquered Edenia. And since Kitana is 10,000 years old, she must therefore had only just been born at the time.


What kind of logic is that???
Everybody knows that Kitana was born 10.000 years ago and Sindel was Kahn's bride 10.000 years ago. 10.000 years is a reference, it could mean 10.001, 10.005 or 10.050.
What we definitely know is that Kitana is not Shao Kahn's blood daughter. What we also definitely know is that she remembers her mother and she was depicted as old enough to understand the situation of the Edenian War in Sindel's ending of MK3.

Therefore, my point is that she wasn't a baby, as the Legacy series depicts her.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say about "she must therefore had only just been born at the time".
Yes, Kitana, was born shortly before the Edenia War. In fact, she may have lived through those atrocities.



mattteo Wrote:

The possible answer for her submission to Shao Kahn was given in the non-canon adventure game “Shaolin Monks”, where she was placed under Kahn's sorcery mind spell to obey him and not remember her past. That explanation was not well received by the fans back then, but it certainly seems like a good one after some years have passed.


No, it really isn't a good explanation.

But fine, whatever. Believe non-canon sources and bullshit about spells and brainwashing.
Anything to make Kitana less interesting and more boring, eh?



If that makes Kitana less interesting and more boring than we have different views on what interesting and boring means.
In my opinion, it's actually a treat for fans that Kitana has had awakenings in the past, situations in which she learned that her true parents were righteous and Kahn is an usurper. She may have lead rebellions (like in Mortal Kombat Conquest), but she ended up punished by Shao Kahn who couldn't get himself to kill her, instead wiping her memory.
He does love her in his own twisted way.

I'm not saying the non-canon sources are right, but they do provide an explanation for why Kitana can't recall her parents during the events of MK2.
After all, Shaolin Monks was made by the exact same people involved in the canon games, so their opinion should matter.

Even more, John Tobias, the original creator, intended for Kitana to have been a teenager/ young adult when Shao Kahn invaded Edenia. He even contributed to the Kitana/Mileena comic where this is shown, with Kahn wiping her memory! Though John Tobias's view can't be considered correct, it shows that writers originally wanted Kitana to be involved in the Edenian War.

I think it would be awesome if she grew up during that, it expands on her story and it would make for a cool comic/ game if we ever get to see the Edenian War.
Shawn Kittelsen said he would love to do that as a comic series.

https://twitter.com/kittelsen/status/615707082906402816


So, what's your take on it? Do you think the Legacy series is canon? Should we take their story and accept that Kitana was a baby when Kahn's invasion started? More and more MK fans seem to think that way, but almost all of them haven't been around in the 90s when Kitana was meant to have been a young adult in those times in the CANON games.
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12/31/2015 02:13 AM (UTC)
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Kitna being 10,000 yrs old. Is this game canon. I know it's said in movies but I can't recall a game source
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