how can a combo do 80% damage when the scaling is so great in Mkd. i had a 12 hit combo only do 33%.

I play at very high level thank you......


Don't you think it's stupid that from any pop up she can get almost 60%?

I'll be happy if in MKA combos will do max 45......

She is no way near Kira, big damage or not.

Yeah, you know honestly I don't care if they remove the 50%+ combos, I think the game is better that way because online sometimes has LAG, and LAG fucks up combo chains, it's happened to me since I play this game at a competitive level on live.

Most of the time it's good, but sometimes the lag sucks seriously and you can't pull off the whole combo, especially branch juggles.

Anyone that plays this game online at high level knows what I'm saying.

Totally right, thats why they should remove the 45%+ combos AND improve lag behavior!
I want the online play to be the same as the offline play, with the combos I am used to do.

Uranius

Not going to happen. There is ALWAYS lag online. The smallest it can probably go (i would say) is 4 frames but that can still fuck you up.

Oh my fucking gosh...

Shujinko has the same throw he had in MKD.


Thank god he doesn't have shaolin fists anymore, or that would be FUCKED up.

I was about to say that. I thought they got rid of all that shit? Guess not.

Bad news, very bad news

Jinko's throw juggles. I really hope they will change it. Juggle throws are so stupid, a 16% unblockable pop up?? that's so stupid.

I'm also starting to think that by throw escaps they mean escaping air throws..... that will be crap if we wont get escapes for ground throws.....


Anyways,

Ermac has Axe - this style is good for Ermacs juggles. d+1 is agreat poke, 1,3...... is a mid and has priority over every poke.

Ermac looks good. Mid tier imo

Sheeva - The guy who played didn't do a lot.

Her throw is Sub's MKD throw. Not a very good one.

Her jumping smash thingy looks good, to avoid you just need to side step all the time. It looks useless throwing projectiles on her........

We don't know yet how unsafe she is if she whiffs.

She has like 4 or 2 knifes or something, if they have the moves of the Butterfly and Sun Moon that will be bad.....

She has her classic projectile back but it looks a bit slower than the rest of the projectiles......

We didn't see her TS and that's the big question.......

Mileena

Mien Chuan is better than ever. you can still do 4 4,1 with no delay, her throw is her MKD throw which is good. she has her ball back, the teleport kick looks a bit faster....... I hope it's not done by f,f,+4 again........


So Mileena is exactly like MKD but she lost Ying Yung. Mileena looks great

Chameleon

Wow Crane is good. Still fast as fuck. I hope it still has d+4.

His special moves with the dash and punch (Reptiles classic move) looks.... ok I guess

Motaro

We didn't see alot from him. looks like he will have many big damage mids and things like that.

His charge move looks ok.

Jinko

Nooooooooooooooooooo, juggle throws That's sux.

So Jinko still has Dan Tien Dao which is pure crap.

He still has all of his special moves from MKD.

His juggle throw really upgrades him. Maybe he will not be so low.

I mean he still lost Shaolin Fist but...... juggle throw

With those fighting styles, Jinko needs something going for him... I am not too worried about these juggle throws

New vids new characters reaveld

Smoke

Smoke has Mi Tzu and Judo.

Mi Tzu is good d+1 is such a great poke. u+4 is a great mid pop up.

We have a new combo 1,1,3

Judo d+4 is ok...... other than that it's kinda sux.

He has alot of new special moves.....

Cloud is now done by d,b+1, wtf? maybe now it's toned down like Sub's Ice Clone.

I think both Ice Clone and the Cloud are a bit broken.... I hope they tone down those move alot.......

Cyrex -

He got Ninjitsu, oh no......................

Hotaro

Hotaru has Pi Gua back! this such a great style. d+1 d+3 b+1 (altough it was unsafe) b+2. nice combos.........

He also has Nagatina. Nagatina had no mids in MKD. I hope it gets one.

b+1 was so fucking fast, you could spam it like crazy. 1,b+1 was also good.

b+4 should be a mid or something.......

Mavado

Mavado has Long Fist back. We have 2 new combos. 1,1,3 and 1,1,4.

Long Fist was ok at best........

He also has Hook Swords, this is Kabal's MKD version of the HookSwords. I'm pretty sure 2,1,3 is a new combo......

He has alot of special moves. He kept the 2 from DA and he has 3 more.

Dairou

Dairou has Mi Zong. d+1 b+3 and f+1 are ok but this style is not very good.

He has his weapon back, d+1 is good but this style is really lacking.

His special moves stayed the same

The fucking TS is back, if Midway did not fix it

The broken teleport is back and so is the projectile

If the TS is fixed Dairou will be low tier.

Nightwolf -

Nightwolf has Vale Tudu and his weapon.

Nightwolf was mid tier in MKD cause of his unbreakble juggle throw and 2,3 in his weapon that led to the free throw.

If his throw is toned down He will be low mid tier......

Fujin -

He lost Mien Chuan :( He has Liu He, Never played GC version but from what I know it's kinda crap........

We dont know about his weapon......

Darrius

He has Gujo Ryu, it's an ok style 2 is good but no good lows.

If he doesn't get an awsome throw or a new low there will be no reason to duck him......

He has all of his specials from MKD

Jhonny has Jade's MKD throw......


Oh man Jhonny sucks, again.

HJ~mileena cant block after 4,1 for about 3-4 secs. its not safe lik eyou think. also maybe its me but her throw seems to give more separation between her and her foe.



2 things i liked from watching these new vids.

1~finally saw the cross over kick used the right way a few times in the mileena vid. i was getting worried that it wasnt gonna work the way i wanted it too.

2~ i like how the chracters step back the second it says __ wins. they seem to turn around and walk away, so its looking like no more being trapped in a corner w/ your foe.

jinko w/ his lame moves from other characters but w/ out fist he seems to be a ok character not to toned down and not to over powering.

The teleport wasn't really that broken, the TS was the worst.

Yeah, versatile I said the same about Jinko lol.I was like he has the same throw?

And why do you call him Cyrex, when it's Cyrax?

As long as he has his Net by the time the games done, I'll have no problem.I'm sure he'll have it, everyone has 4 or 5 moves he'll get it most likely, it's what makes Cyrax, Cyrax.

Ninjitsu is not that bad, there are some other styles worse lol IMO.

But His weapon was not bad in the right hands.

Shujinko: Has the same throw? Damn...that is messed up. Then again, given the fact that he has Mantis and Dan Tien Dao, it may be something he'll need....I would rather see his throw be toned down and for Mantis and Dan Tien Dao to be toned up. Mantis needs a good low poke like Shaolin Fist does.

So Ermac's styles are Choy Lee Fut and Axe? What about the whole Kick Axe style?

Sheeva: I thought I saw her do the Teleport Stomp in that Sheeva vs. Mileena vid...

Mileena: MKA Mian Chuan has a 4, 4, 1 combo? Wtf?? When you say her ball, are you talking about her Ground Roll? Anyway, yeah, she does look good. I'm so fucking glad she has Mian Chuan back.

Chameleon: I'm sure he'll be good gameplay-wise with Crane and all...

Motaro: can't say much

Smoke: Him having Mi Tzu is good. Him having Judo...isn't...I mean, that's uh, kind of err well...bad. So he has new specials, eh? Great. Hope they're good. I hope the Cloud will be toned down.

Cyrax: He has "Ninjitsu"??? NINJITSU??? Uh....can you excuse me for a moment, please? *goes into a dark corner and yells "WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY THINKING???!!!"* Ok...now...not only do they give him a style that doesn't fit him (for story reasons and all), they gave him a style that didn't have good gameplay and the name is spelled incorrectly. If he doesn't have improved specials and styles, he's gonna suck...AGAIN!

Hotaru: Has Pi Gua? Good, good. I look forward to bitch slapping people with him. Naginata better have mids this time...I mean at least make B + 1 a mid...and maybe a bit slower...I see what you're saying about B + 4. I also think 1 should be a mid. What about his specials?

Mavado: He has Long Fist and Hookswords? Hmm...they better give an explanation behind that. It should be pretty easy to do. 2, 1, 3 sounds like a combo from MKD Hookswords. I hope the 1, 1, 3 combo in Long Fist will end in a mid attack. What are his other specials?

Dairou: Has Mi Zong? What the fuck? I hope TS Drop will be toned down.

Nightwolf: Um..how exacty is his unarmed style spelled in the game? I mean, the correct spelling is Vale Tudo but in MKD, they incorrectly spelled it Val Tudo.

Fujin: Has Liu He? Hmm, I wonder just which Liu He style they're talking about...I thought his weapon is currently the Wind Staff.

Darrius: He has Goju Ryu? Interesting....I'd like to see good lows such as a quick, safe low version of attack 1 with the D + 1 command. That'd be perfect, imo.

Johnny Cage: Has Jade's MKD throw? Meh.

Darrius has his gauntlets again, more importantly but i want to c him kill dairou in the new game cause hes gonna have to jump on tht, if not dairou will for darrius killing his family(im praying darrius doesnt die),wat do u guys thinks

I think you need to stick to the topic, which is about the gameplay, not the story.

i have one thing 2 say...


U spelt Jarek Cyrax and Johnny Cage's name wrong...

lol

Um, who are you talking about?

Also, if you're going to post in here, make it constructive.

WTF is with Smoke getting Judo? That's bullshit. How would it be hard giving him a goddamn weapon?

Ugh.

I doubt he's going to have that in the final version of the game. If he is, and if he'll have a different throw/toned down throw and toned down Stinky Cloud, he's not going to do too well...

So does Nightwolf still have TKD?

No. Sonya has Tae Kwon Do and Nightwolf has Val Tudo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRX6rCPBd2M This vid is from E3.
To me, the KAF system looks cool if you can pull off all the moves like a pro. That's beside the point though. Something bugged me.
Notice the the "repeat jump kick" combo several times in the vid. TMK knocks his foe into the air and gets off at least 3 good jump kicks every time. One time with the combo, the jump kicks are mixed with launchers.
That was from E3, but we haven't seen enough video from MKU to know if this kind of thing is still in.
Do you think it'll be fixed? They need to have the victim come down faster or something. GGXX has this feature where the characters fall harder each time they get launched in a combo. That would be good for this situation. I could be wrong though. What do you guys think?

yea, that jump kick was cheap as hell. hope it gets fixed.

one thing i noticed is that even though the fight state lights are gone, that little flash for counter hits isnt.

does anyone know if this game has mkd's recovery time? some of the lag time between doing a move and blocking was just retarted. if it plays like mk deceptions did, i wont touch this game. throwing a punch and standing there 5 sec before you can block? wtf.

The Shujinko throw thing: At the moment, I am not too worried about it. As long as Shaolin Fist is gone, but I am curious to see how high combo damage is going to get in this game.
As far as the Tombstone drop goes, I think it was MasterMalone that reported on it a while back after playing it. He said that it seemed toned down. I think he said that it seemed a little more predictable this time around, and with the easier jumping mechanics involved it was easier to avoid.