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STATE FED LIES CHARM EMPTY EYES. Anon.

05/17/2016 08:13 PM (UTC)
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unleash_your_tounge Wrote:I like Triborg, but at this point I've classified him as non-canon. Meanwhile, Smoke has been a homie for decades.


Totally. As much fun as Triborg is to use in all his variations, he's basically not a character, but an amalgam of four pre-existing, fleshed-out true characters. He's more of a game mechanic than anything else.

Smoke on the other hand has had one of the series' most convoluted and appealing stories.
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05/17/2016 08:25 PM (UTC)
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I have always liked robot Smoke more than human Smoke, and Cyrax has been my favorite of the three (now four) LK cyborgs for as long as I remember. Considering that they actually managed to pull off Triborg well in MKX, this vote is an easy one. I don't particularly care about Smoke if he isn't going to be a cyborg. Also, he's dead, Jim.
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05/17/2016 09:05 PM (UTC)
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Smoke gon' smoke that robo joke so he's my vote, yo
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05/17/2016 09:11 PM (UTC)
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PickleMendip Wrote:

Totally. As much fun as Triborg is to use in all his variations, he's basically not a character, but an amalgam of four pre-existing, fleshed-out true characters. He's more of a game mechanic than anything else.


More accurately: Easy way to get several previous characters into the game with one character, like Kitana with her "Jade" style. Which isn't a bad thing at all.

EDIT: Not saying that justifies the character of Triborg itself
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why

05/17/2016 10:01 PM (UTC)
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SneakyLizard Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
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Poor Sheeva. She never stood a chance.


Not even in the tier list.

She's ALWAYS at the bottom.

By the way, I don't understand why Sheeva has ANY votes. Everything special about her came out of a different character.

Uh...same thing with Kintaro, yet I don't hear a lot of people complaining about him.


Well, Kintaro is also a tiger, so he's not completely the same.

Also, I never said I liked Kintaro, I think he's pointless and that Goro should've returned in Mortal Kombat 2.
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05/17/2016 10:34 PM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
SneakyLizard Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
Zebron Wrote:
Poor Sheeva. She never stood a chance.


Not even in the tier list.

She's ALWAYS at the bottom.

By the way, I don't understand why Sheeva has ANY votes. Everything special about her came out of a different character.

Uh...same thing with Kintaro, yet I don't hear a lot of people complaining about him.


Well, Kintaro is also a tiger, so he's not completely the same.

Also, I never said I liked Kintaro, I think he's pointless and that Goro should've returned in Mortal Kombat 2.


Sheeva is a roster character, Kintaro isn't. Kintaro, Motaro, and Moloch should all be judged with different standards.

Goro should have stayed a sub-boss.
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05/18/2016 01:15 AM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
Zebron Wrote:
Poor Sheeva. She never stood a chance.


Not even in the tier list.

She's ALWAYS at the bottom.

By the way, I don't understand why Sheeva has ANY votes. Everything special about her came out of a different character.


Technically not true, she was broken in MKT. Then again, everyone was.

Voting Smoke for this one. Triborg can be fun to play, but I don't consider him to be an actual character.
Shoot, missed a round. I was gonna vote Sheeva. I liked her large fireball.

I'm voting Smoke for the way he's been fleshed out more. Even though Triborg has it all, and I like what they did with him, you just can't beat the originals.

If only he was also a prophetic locomotive, they could've called him Quattrain...



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05/18/2016 05:00 AM (UTC)
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redman Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
Zebron Wrote:
Poor Sheeva. She never stood a chance.


Not even in the tier list.

She's ALWAYS at the bottom.

By the way, I don't understand why Sheeva has ANY votes. Everything special about her came out of a different character.


Technically not true, she was broken in MKT. Then again, everyone was.

Voting Smoke for this one. Triborg can be fun to play, but I don't consider him to be an actual character.


Tier list at the bottom of the page.

And once again, Sheeva's the worst character to play as.
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The flickering torch of an endangered species! Khameleon is a mysterious Zaterran warrior who survived Shao Kahn's treachery. Operating on the fringes of kombat, she seeks the last survivor of her race as a means to return them to prominence. Reptile was once believed to be the sole survivor of the Zaterran race - an ally to the Emperor Shao Kahn and his realm conquering forces. Time away from his people has changed Reptile's mind. Will he be his lost race's savior - or its ultimate destruction? Choose their destiny... FIGHT!

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05/18/2016 07:36 AM (UTC)
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Khameleon's just bad.

Reptile FTW.
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05/18/2016 07:57 AM (UTC)
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Man, Reptile is the reason why I have "Reptile" in my name and have had it that way for fifteen years -- and trust me, he'd been my favorite since way before that. (Well, also reptiles in general). He was just so cool - this mysterious hyper-skilled warrior, who was GREEN, and also reptilian -- I loved the idea that he was a shapeshifter, and always favored his MKII storyline.

And THE HYPEST FIGHT. IN THE MOVIE. REPTILE. Perfect and fitting for the first secret character ever.

It was UMK3 when he started to become a little dumb to me - quite literally, they made him dumb. Why would he be loyal to Shao Kahn? At all? It was better in MKII when he was secretly bitter about it, like anyone who is the last of their kind would be to the man who committed genocide upon your race. And also the idea that he was skilled. At least in UMK3 they gave him the respect of saying that he was possibly responsible for the deaths of millions. (Though it always annoyed me that his blood was green. Reptiles don't have green blood.)

MK4 . . . I feel like I shouldn't have to repeat myself, I talked enough about MK4 Reptile on this forum back when MK4 was still relevant, but . . . purple-pants ninja. I thought his design was enragingly stupid, and I never thought I'd actually feel anything but dislike towards it.

MKDA was finally the design I'd always wanted to see for Reptile, and plus he did Hung Gar which was the style of Kung Fu that I practiced. He was fun and MKDA was just really hype in general, but again, his konquest mode story was just . . . he was so stupid that he was delusional. At least they had a very good explanation for it which was that he was devolving over time. I could deal with that. Plus, they came up with the idea of the matriarch (more on that with Khameleon).

I didn't like his MKSM design. Disliked it more than MK4. But whatever. By this time Reptile had kind of dropped off my radar, which is a shame since he WAS my absolute favorite, but basically he became a dumb enforcer.

But man, when MK2011 came out, and just completely took everything from him -- not only was he not special in the MK1 part of the story mode, but he was the first opponent that you fought and the first one to lose. Plus, his design, and he's completely irrelevant. An even DUMBER, and now INCOMPETENT, enforcer.

In MKX he's no more relevant than he was before. Like . . . he was this super-secret super-skilled hype super-ninja dinosaur assassin, personal guard of Shang Tsung, the last of his kind . . . and now he's just a toad.

I think Khameleon, despite having dubious MKT origins, could fit into that Matriarch part really well. Like a lot of characters, she surprisingly has a lot of potential if we forget that she was just a combination of all the female palette-swapped ninjas -- and we as a fanbase are good at forgetting about dubious origins. That being said, her potential doesn't stand on its own, though, because what's a matriarch without followers? I think that based on Reptile's MKX tower ending, she would BE that matriarch. I mean sure, she could replace Reptile I guess, but they'd be more interesting if they actually interacted at one point.

But I feel like that's a storyline that will never be explored fully and only hinted at in (Reptile's) tower endings.

tl;dr: Reptile was my favorite MK character for a long long time; Khameleon has potential but only in the context of Reptile or some highly unlikely Zaterra-related subplot; want both, but would choose Reptile on the off-chance they make him cool again (which would work better with her involved, maybe, and I guess Khameleon could stand on her own but why)
Syzoth for the win! Always loved Reptile. Also my fav fight, and theme in the movie.

Nothing against his matriarch. They need to make her more relevant.



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05/18/2016 12:37 PM (UTC)
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Reptile. And while I'm on the subject...

It annoys me to no goddamn end the people want him as a human rather than a lizard.

His name is REPTILE.

He's supposed to be a FUCKING LIZARD.

The only reason why he was human in his debut was because of memory restrictions. I guaran-goddamn-tee that if this wasn't an issue back then, you can be sure he would've looked more like his Deadly Alliance appearance

What's the point of him being human? It originally was supposed to disguise him, but in the 24 years since, everyone in the MK universe is aware of both his and his race's existence. There's no reason for him to continue this facade.

Why should he look human, anyway? It's been established that him and his people hate humans. They think of themselves as vastly superior. Why dress as something you look down upon and despise?

It irks me to no fucking end.
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05/18/2016 02:02 PM (UTC)
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Every vote for Khameleon causes Mick-Lucifer actual physical pain, so...


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05/18/2016 02:13 PM (UTC)
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Every vote for Khameleon causes Mick-Lucifer actual physical pain, so...


Khameleon


I should have read this before I voted!

Voted Reptile because he'll always be my favorite ninja.
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05/18/2016 02:22 PM (UTC)
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Voted Khameleon.

SYKE.

Reptile is bae <3
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05/18/2016 02:39 PM (UTC)
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Vote goes to the original secret character.

Mottob fo eht tip!
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05/18/2016 02:59 PM (UTC)
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The only MK game I ever owned on a Nintendo console was Deadly Alliance so I have never played as Khameleon, I have only ever seen pictures/videos of her online, and Reptile is an OG who has been around since the beginning, gotta go with him.
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05/18/2016 03:04 PM (UTC)
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Reptile
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05/18/2016 04:54 PM (UTC)
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Tough one to call. Khameleon is reputed to be the Matriarch of Reptile's race. If they would have given her own moveset and storyline to make her badass as a leader of the Raptor race even making Reptile seem #2 in the Zaterran hierarchy, she might have a chance.

But other than that, I'm voting Reptile.
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05/18/2016 06:44 PM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
redman Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
Zebron Wrote:
Poor Sheeva. She never stood a chance.


Not even in the tier list.

She's ALWAYS at the bottom.

By the way, I don't understand why Sheeva has ANY votes. Everything special about her came out of a different character.


Technically not true, she was broken in MKT. Then again, everyone was.

Voting Smoke for this one. Triborg can be fun to play, but I don't consider him to be an actual character.


Tier list at the bottom of the page.

And once again, Sheeva's the worst character to play as.


I know there's no point in arguing with obnoxious people like you but tier lists don't count for a fucking thing. We all know she's at the bottom, nobody cares.
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05/18/2016 07:13 PM (UTC)
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Seriously, keep the thread civil. Pointless name-calling and arguments about tier lists are stupid and accomplish nothing.

It's supposed to be fun, folks! Let's keep it focused on the characters!

Anyone else love when Reptile became a kremling in MKDA?
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05/18/2016 10:19 PM (UTC)
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Poasty-Guy Wrote:
Seriously, keep the thread civil. Pointless name-calling and arguments about tier lists are stupid and accomplish nothing.

It's supposed to be fun, folks! Let's keep it focused on the characters!

Anyone else love when Reptile became a kremling in MKDA?

I do! MKDA Reptile still remains my favorite look for him.
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05/18/2016 10:46 PM (UTC)
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Khameleon FTL
Reptile FTW
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