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05/20/2016 05:20 AM (UTC)
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Stryker has always been a cool character for me. While I agree that his initial appearance was a little dodgy (look wise), the prospect of a fighting game character with a gun blew my mind at the time.

I also liked the aspect of someone, who has no supernatural ability, having the balls to stand up and defend his home despite insurmountable odds because that was his job. His duty.
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05/20/2016 05:38 AM (UTC)
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Quite surprised Frost is gonna steal the win. I voted for POLICE BRUTALITY.
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05/20/2016 06:29 AM (UTC)
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They fought on the beaches of Shang Tsung's island - now they meet in the Supreme Champion tournament! Skarlet is an assassin created by Shao Kahn from the blood of his fallen enemies. In The Emperor's absence, Skarlet became an ally to would-be ruler Reiko and the chaos master Havik. Her service brought her into conflict with Gen. Sonya Blade! The career military hero is also a mother to Cassie Cage. When her daughter was abducted by outer world forces, Sonya becomes a deadly force to be reckoned with! Who wins this brutal battle of blood? Choose their destiny! ... FIGHT!

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05/20/2016 07:09 AM (UTC)
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I vote Sonya, because unlike Skarlet, she actually has character. And good character, at that.

Also Sonya's moveset is fun, while I didn't really find Skarlet that enjoyable. I don't even think Skarlet's canon, either.
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Warbro666
05/20/2016 07:45 AM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
I vote Sonya, because unlike Skarlet, she actually has character. And good character, at that.

Also Sonya's moveset is fun, while I didn't really find Skarlet that enjoyable. I don't even think Skarlet's canon, either.


Skarlet is canon. She appeared in the canon MKX comic as Reiko's lover/enforcer.

I voted for Skarlet. She's my third favourite female character and in my top 10 MK characters of all time.

The blood magic/weaponry stuff is badass and her fatalities were among the best of MK9. Plus her appearance in the comics puts her head and shoulders above the veteran that is Sonya, who has gotten kind of boring over the years.

Blood in, blood out.
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05/20/2016 11:08 AM (UTC)
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Sonya. Most definitely. She has such a great character arc in the new timeline. She's strong and sensible. Her passion lies beneath the surface, allowing her to deal out justice when it's needed.
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05/20/2016 11:15 AM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:Honestly, I don't think her surpassing Sub-Zero would be a good idea, and I think most people would probably agree with that.


Agree or not, that is the apparent trend of MK; whether it be children overtaking parents or students becoming the master.

Liu and Kung Lao are stronger than Bo' Rai Cho.

Sektor killed his father and Cassie has the power to slay elder gods.

I expect Frost, Takeda and Kung Jin will have the same progression given time.
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MacyG88
05/20/2016 11:18 AM (UTC)
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Definitely Sonya.

Skarlet is dull.
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05/20/2016 11:25 AM (UTC)
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Sonya.

Never been much on Skarlet personally and I didn't really care for her MK9 gameplay.
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05/20/2016 11:42 AM (UTC)
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I voted for Skarlet. I like Sonya and all, but Skarlet just has to win this.
While I love what they've done for/with Sonya, especially the awesome garote wire,
I'm more personally invested in Skarlett. winkgrin I love her moveset, and blood theme.

Nothing against Sonya.



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4Charles2014
05/20/2016 02:20 PM (UTC)
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Voted Sonya.
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Blade4693
05/20/2016 03:28 PM (UTC)
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Going with Skarlet for this one. Sonya is awesome and a great character but I think Skarlet has untapped potential. Her MKX comic self looked good, and I think as long as they don't delegate her to "The red girl ninja" she could be good.
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05/20/2016 03:58 PM (UTC)
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Sonya is a great character,but Skarlet have more potential than Sonya. Blood <3
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05/20/2016 04:12 PM (UTC)
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Skarlet, obviously.
I soooo dislike the Blady bunch, they make me sick ;)))
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05/20/2016 06:15 PM (UTC)
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Yeah I have to vote on potential as well here. Plus MKX gave me a bit of Sonya-Johnny fatigue. Her issues with both Cassie and Johnny were pretty well done, and I like some of her moves, but if I'm building the next few MK games and deciding which character I want to see, I'm picking Skarlett.
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05/20/2016 06:56 PM (UTC)
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I've always had fun playing as Sonya, not so much Skarlet.
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05/20/2016 09:58 PM (UTC)
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Warbro666 Wrote:
Quanchi9 Wrote:
I vote Sonya, because unlike Skarlet, she actually has character. And good character, at that.

Also Sonya's moveset is fun, while I didn't really find Skarlet that enjoyable. I don't even think Skarlet's canon, either.


Skarlet is canon. She appeared in the canon MKX comic as Reiko's lover/enforcer.

I voted for Skarlet. She's my third favourite female character and in my top 10 MK characters of all time.

The blood magic/weaponry stuff is badass and her fatalities were among the best of MK9. Plus her appearance in the comics puts her head and shoulders above the veteran that is Sonya, who has gotten kind of boring over the years.

Blood in, blood out.


Oh, sorry. I haven't exactly caught up with the comics yet, so I apologize if I get anything wrong.
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05/20/2016 10:18 PM (UTC)
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To me, Skarlet is a very contrived and shallow character. I haven't read the comics, which in themselves might not even be canon, but in MK9 I was just very disappointed that she was . . . made to exist.

Which she was. Let's face it, she was created because they had room to make a Red Female Ninja. And that's what she is -- a really, really, really late in the game palette swap. I don't see potential with her. She's just another enforcer, who kind of looks like Kira in a bathing suit. There are so many more interesting and less bland characters out there.

Sonya, on the other hand, oh boy . . .

. . . I have written a lot about Sonya in a lot of different places, so this is literally just something I've written before. It's too bad that people don't read these posts before having already voted.

She’s been a bona-fide badass since 1992. Sure she’s weathered some embarrassing design choices recently (mk8, mk9) but she started out hardcore and remains hardcore. She was one of the first no-holds-barred badass female characters (ok the kiss of death was a little lame) and of course the literally fan-demanded character of MK1 (she was added because the game testers consistently requested a female character to play, and she was based on an actual badass Tae Kwon Do practitioner who was a mixed-gender martial arts champion at the time. In forms, yes, but that counts ok).

She was never a sidekick, never the less important character in a team of two (in fact she’s the MORE important character in a team of two). She was a high-ranking member of the military elite even back in her first appearance when she was in her early 90s workout video gear and her leg warmers. She was never cutesy, never irrelevant, never uninteresting, and has never been identifiable based on a trademark body part (yes this is a direct comparison to Chun Li, who has all the makings of a badass female character but falls short because of these two ‘she’s a girl before she’s a character’ markers common in female characters, fighting games or otherwise). Her rival, her nemesis, her equal, the character she exists to fight and beat up in a climactic throwdown, is male, and has been since 1992. This is so important! In most fictional media, especially visual media (tv shows, movies, video games), female heroes have female rivals. Look at 80% of action movies – there’s the female action heroine and there’s a conveniently female sub-boss for her to defeat, because as we all know girls can’t possibly beat boys, and men should never hit women, because women are helpless and weak even if they are elite soldiers who are martial arts masters. Not so with Sonya. Having a male nemesis means that she and her power are to be taken seriously. No excuses.

Her story is interesting -- on its own -- and relies on nobody except her, her goals, and her nemesis. She's not doing any of this for a man. In fact, I think her MKX story shows a very important thing about family relationships -- one, a divorce, but two, that women can be workaholics who aren't invested in their children that much, either. Not to mention, of course, that her MKX design, while looking like she's maybe 30, is probably her best design yet (except for the fact that she's so tiny, but all MKX females are tiny) -- she finally looks as military as any other member of the military. (Sonya has had both great designs and awful designs, but at least they've been interesting designs).

Not only that, but compared to Skarlet, again, who I really don't see having any kind of interesting storyline (she's almost identical to Mileena in backstory), she has nowhere to go. What is she doing now? What's she been doing for the past 25 years? (Comic, which is again probably not entirely canon, excluded). Who cares? She's another assassin enforcer lady in a bathing suit. Look at MKX designs, especially compared to MK9, where a ton of female characters took huge backsteps compared to their previous designs (Sheeva, anyone?).

I mean I'm all for moving on from the MK1-MKII exclusivity of these games, but . . . if you're going to replace Sonya, do it with someone original, or who doesn't have, like, three other characters almost exactly like her. Skarlet is a palette swap. Unless she gets a major overhaul and redesign in literally everything about her, I would be extremely disappointed to see her in an MK game again, let alone replacing Sonya.

Not to say that if you like her there's anything wrong with that. And hey, maybe I'm missing something really really important and interesting about her.
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05/20/2016 11:32 PM (UTC)
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CaTigeReptile Wrote:
To me, Skarlet is a very contrived and shallow character. I haven't read the comics, which in themselves might not even be canon, but in MK9 I was just very disappointed that she was . . . made to exist.

Which she was. Let's face it, she was created because they had room to make a Red Female Ninja. And that's what she is -- a really, really, really late in the game palette swap. I don't see potential with her. She's just another enforcer, who kind of looks like Kira in a bathing suit. There are so many more interesting and less bland characters out there.

Sonya, on the other hand, oh boy . . .

. . . I have written a lot about Sonya in a lot of different places, so this is literally just something I've written before. It's too bad that people don't read these posts before having already voted.

She’s been a bona-fide badass since 1992. Sure she’s weathered some embarrassing design choices recently (mk8, mk9) but she started out hardcore and remains hardcore. She was one of the first no-holds-barred badass female characters (ok the kiss of death was a little lame) and of course the literally fan-demanded character of MK1 (she was added because the game testers consistently requested a female character to play, and she was based on an actual badass Tae Kwon Do practitioner who was a mixed-gender martial arts champion at the time. In forms, yes, but that counts ok).

She was never a sidekick, never the less important character in a team of two (in fact she’s the MORE important character in a team of two). She was a high-ranking member of the military elite even back in her first appearance when she was in her early 90s workout video gear and her leg warmers. She was never cutesy, never irrelevant, never uninteresting, and has never been identifiable based on a trademark body part (yes this is a direct comparison to Chun Li, who has all the makings of a badass female character but falls short because of these two ‘she’s a girl before she’s a character’ markers common in female characters, fighting games or otherwise). Her rival, her nemesis, her equal, the character she exists to fight and beat up in a climactic throwdown, is male, and has been since 1992. This is so important! In most fictional media, especially visual media (tv shows, movies, video games), female heroes have female rivals. Look at 80% of action movies – there’s the female action heroine and there’s a conveniently female sub-boss for her to defeat, because as we all know girls can’t possibly beat boys, and men should never hit women, because women are helpless and weak even if they are elite soldiers who are martial arts masters. Not so with Sonya. Having a male nemesis means that she and her power are to be taken seriously. No excuses.

Her story is interesting -- on its own -- and relies on nobody except her, her goals, and her nemesis. She's not doing any of this for a man. In fact, I think her MKX story shows a very important thing about family relationships -- one, a divorce, but two, that women can be workaholics who aren't invested in their children that much, either. Not to mention, of course, that her MKX design, while looking like she's maybe 30, is probably her best design yet (except for the fact that she's so tiny, but all MKX females are tiny) -- she finally looks as military as any other member of the military. (Sonya has had both great designs and awful designs, but at least they've been interesting designs).

Not only that, but compared to Skarlet, again, who I really don't see having any kind of interesting storyline (she's almost identical to Mileena in backstory), she has nowhere to go. What is she doing now? What's she been doing for the past 25 years? (Comic, which is again probably not entirely canon, excluded). Who cares? She's another assassin enforcer lady in a bathing suit. Look at MKX designs, especially compared to MK9, where a ton of female characters took huge backsteps compared to their previous designs (Sheeva, anyone?).

I mean I'm all for moving on from the MK1-MKII exclusivity of these games, but . . . if you're going to replace Sonya, do it with someone original, or who doesn't have, like, three other characters almost exactly like her. Skarlet is a palette swap. Unless she gets a major overhaul and redesign in literally everything about her, I would be extremely disappointed to see her in an MK game again, let alone replacing Sonya.

Not to say that if you like her there's anything wrong with that. And hey, maybe I'm missing something really really important and interesting about her.


"She's just another enforcer, who kind of looks like Kira in a bathing suit. There are so many more interesting and less bland characters out there. " No,All she showed in MK9 and MKX comics have become an interesting character of unlimited possibility.

"very contrived and shallow" What ? You speak as if it were a generic character, you are confusing, it is much better than the three new female characters who are more of the same (Cassie, Jacqui and D'vorah)
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05/20/2016 11:40 PM (UTC)
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"very contrived and shallow" What ? You speak as if it were a generic character, you are confusing, it is much better than the three new female characters who are more of the same (Cassie, Jacqui and D'vorah)


That's because it is a generic character.
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05/20/2016 11:45 PM (UTC)
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Gonna vote Sonya. Thinking back, the only reason I really didn't want her in MKX was because of her shit tier appearance in MK9. I actually liked her in MK3 and MK4, and she isn't that bad of a character. Skarlet isn't a bad character either, but she hasn't had enough time to really be developed and I doubt she ever will, but it's possible.
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05/20/2016 11:56 PM (UTC)
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When Skarlet was first announced I was annoyed at the concept for being so unoriginal. After actually playing as her, she grew on me. And now reading about her involvement in the MKX comics, I wouldn't mind seeing her again. She's okay.

But Sonya is one of the greatest.
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05/21/2016 12:06 AM (UTC)
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Quanchi9 Wrote:
"very contrived and shallow" What ? You speak as if it were a generic character, you are confusing, it is much better than the three new female characters who are more of the same (Cassie, Jacqui and D'vorah)


That's because it is a generic character.


Humm,Ironic ?
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05/21/2016 12:56 AM (UTC)
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Yeh totally bro. Smoke should come back as a female in MK11!
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