well.... a got a friend who thinks hes the shiznit in every game. only certain games hes better than me at. most games tho (especially fighters) ill whoop his ass with 1 hand. ok not really 1 handed but still pwn him.

as for MK through out over the decade ive been playing MK.... well.... back in the day when the old school MK's were the new MK's i was the best! well atleast around here. i swear no one was able to beat me. well rarely i would lose. but 99% or round that id always win. im not kidding either. i mean i would win nearly always. MK game r the only games i owned back then! and i played them every day! so ya i for sure was hella good but never knew any fatals....

well that was then. this is now. OMG I SUCK NOW! well not really.... well i use to. like whe ni got MK1 with MKD i sucked at it but now i own in that game. ive been playing a lot of MK2 and UMK3 online against ppl on my comp here (mostly UMK3 than MK2 tho). and since i dont have a controller yet i got to use a keyboard. well let me tell u in the past couple days ive gotten hella good with the keyboard. im really great with the keyboard now. im not excellent tho. so i do lose. probably lose more than i win. but hey im useing the keyboard fighting ppl useing controllers. worse thing bout the keyboard playing is the D, F + w/e or D, B + w/e can be a big pain to do. so playing with Subby can be a big ass pain. lol.

anyways to sum it up.... back in the day i owned at MK. but today im not as good but still a great player (well probably will be as good as i was b4 when i buy a controller for my comp). as for the newer MK's tho, MKDA and MKD, im a great player in both. im not really sure how good i am at them. im pretty darn good. but i think a lot others r better.

there is no such thing like "best mk player".... there are "best mk playerS"

Lex from Chicago is the best UMK3 player in the world.

Matt

I suck at any fighting game. I rather compete in RPGs

and how lex can be best world umk3 player when he didnt played with players around europe? there was no UMK3 World Tourney, he is the best UMK3 player in USA maybe, why you ignore Europe players

I'm not that good at any fighting games, really... Just certain ones. But I really suck at Deception. I don't really get into fighting games much, anymore.

Yeah I suck.

In casual UMK3 matches I'm average. Sometimes I get pissed and try really hard to beat somebody and I can usually do a little better then I usually would, but that doesn't last very long. I have found that as long as I play against someone cool I don't really care much whether I win or lose so I don't really focus on getting better any more. The only game I really focus attention on is GT3-A, and soon it will be GT4.

Heres my level of superness:

MK1: Average... I can beat the game and beat people but anyone who is really good at the game will beat me.

MK2: Above average... at one time I was really good at this game but it's old and I don't play it much anymore so of course I'm not as good.

MK3/UMK3/MKt: Above average....again like MK2 I'm not as good as I used to be...I think I'm closer to average now then above... I find it frustrating to play the game now since I'm not as good as I used to be. I remember when I could beat people in under 10 seconds. Now scrubs can almost beat me.

MK4: Average... never really got into the game as much as the others. I'm ok at it tho...

MKDA: Average at best... didn't play the game much and wasn't that great at it even when i did play it.

MKD: Average....I'm ok with certain characters but cheap tactics can beat me. Again like MKDA I didn't put anytime into learning this game so I doubt I will ever get any better.

So I guess overall I'm an average player. I can play all the MK games decently and I know pretty much everyones moves and combos.

I have played some of the few good European players on European servers (with a handicap and either slaughtered or matched them) and can say without fear of contradiction that I am better than all of them, and going by Lex's track record, and that he can beat the other Chicago players with ease whom I have a hard time with, that would most likely make him the best in the world. The only players who claim to be the best whom I've never played are from Venezuela, they are pretty good from the looks of things, but the best, I don't think so.

Matt

my bests-

MK1- Kano/Sonya

MK2- Johnny/Lui

MK3- Stryker/Kano

UMK3- Noob (I am INVINCIBLE)/Stryker

MKT- Kano/Stryker

MK4- Kai

MKDA- Drahmin/Mokap

MKD- Kobra/Darrius/Noob-Smoke (who isn't?)

I absoulutely SUCK with everyone else

i only use scorpion ive never really tried anyone else who else is good?

Stryker and Kai are pretty under rated. Noob, Sub, and Sektor rock too. Rayden is good (especially in MK1, his teleport always gets you round housed in the other games). Johnny's the bomb if you know his moves. Baraka rocks. Sheeva has a good move set. all 3 ninja babes kick ass. Kano and Lui are good at catching the computer off guard..... f*ck it, they all rock

The vast majority can be used for above average gameplay. The real issue is whether a player is good at using them.

Oh and just remembered the title is "Anyone suck?" and the answer is yes. There is a ratboy that sucks a lot...at every game. It's amazing how many times he pops up in existance.

playing with handicap is not equal, i know thrower is awesome umk3 player, but i beat him so easy in my server, when he has 90ms and thats why, and i've been played with a tons of mk1-umk3 players too over kailera, and noone beats me, but i'm sure there are players that are so skilled on various mk but they just dont play over kailera.

In my opinion, it's really hard to say between 2 mk players who is actually the best if they don't play each other with decent pings for both of them.
I mean, if you play with a ping of 100 against someone who has a ping of 20, being beaten doesn't mean you're less strong than him of course.
I met a guy called "thrower" or "OC" on kaillera, and he thinks he is better than me cause he wins when we play on american servers where I have around120 and him 20! I wish to remind him that I smashed him when we played on boespriet, where I had a good ping....so guyz, don't draw too fast conclusions!
I just have read above a message from sinala where he says he is better than all the european mk players, but I don't understand him cause I've beaten him at electronic dojo, so if a player with a much better ping than you beat you, you just can't draw any conclusions no?
I think there are so many mk players who are just as close as each others....mortal kombat is an american game, but it doesn't mean that the best mk player in the world is american.

pierre

yes, when i play with Nafa, (which is one of the best europe umk3 players i have play with) it depends on the server we play - if we play in my ma3x server i win but he has handicap there, if we play in buegspriet he wins because i have handicap there, again i'll say that playing with handicap is not equal, so it cant be say who is better when one of the players has bigger ping than the other one...

I don't know how I can use logic any better to explain things, I mean, winning roughly the same number of matches against someone who has skill when you have a handicap of almost a second of lag at times when the other person has none, doesn't that say something about the player with the handicap? It'd be like me playing someone at an arcade and always putting myself on half energy and winning the same, or more matches.

Matt

Nafa, I watched every match that you and Shock had on the European server. The end score was 12-8 in your favor. I'm not saying that you aren't good...you are very good...but you were outplayed plain and simple, you only won because of the horrendous delay that Shock had (half second - full second) being on that server.

Bottom line is Nafa, you or any other European player wouldn't win any matches against Shock, Moe, Thrower, or Lex at an arcade based on mathematics.
You have a ways to go before you get to their level.

Maybe that Lex ist indeed the best Player in the World but:

As long as there is no official World Championship in UMK3 (Wich of course will be never) you cant say there is one best player in the world, maybe there is some Brasilian, French, Turkish, Asian ect. player how plays complete different and would surprise all of us by his amazing way to play, you never know.
Or maybe there are a few people how play night and day on an Arcade machine but they dont know what Kaillera is but play this game godlike ect.

The World is big enough for such "unkown Talents"

And I just know you cant use any Online Matches in any game (Counterstrike Quake3, StreetFighter2, UMK3)
For an true Ranking, even if booth player have an 1 Ping.

Because simply some players are "Tournament Player" how get to there fullest when playing in competition and some other would suck that are awesome Online because there are not Tournament Players simply.

Believe me I played Counterstrike for almost 3 Years in a Clan and was on many Lan,s where ive got that experience.

But one Final word to the end, I think there is one best player in the World in UMK3, and that the one how has the most FUN when playing UMK3.

Matt wrote:

"I don't know how I can use logic any better to explain things, I mean, winning roughly the same number of matches against someone who has skill when you have a handicap of almost a second of lag at times when the other person has none, doesn't that say something about the player with the handicap? It'd be like me playing someone at an arcade and always putting myself on half energy and winning the same, or more matches."

you have never had a handicap of almost one second of lag,
one sec = 1000 ms! which would be unplayable for any mk players, even for very good players like you, Matt ... in fact you were around 95ms... as far as I'm concerned, I had around 35, which is not that bad I admit, but it's not 0 ms neither, so your "when the other person has none" is a bit wrong too.
in my opinion, our results just show that the player who win some matches with a handicap is skilled, but since at the end he wins less matches than the other, and since the difference of ping and the number of matches is not enough , we can't say who is the best ... to be clear, I just mean we are as close as each other.
I'm in a very uncomfortable situation since I can't play the really good mk players in good conditions, just cause I live in Belgium.

konqrr wrote:

"Nafa, I watched every match that you and Shock had on the European server. The end score was 12-8 in your favor. I'm not saying that you aren't good...you are very good..."

mmm...

"...but you were outplayed plain and simple, you only won because of the horrendous delay that Shock had (half second - full second) being on that server."

I remind you that I wasn't outplayed in 12 matches out of 20, so it's not fair to say I just win only because of the pings, I assure you that a "just good" mk player would have been smashed by sinala, even in these conditions...so you can't deny skillz in it
and one for all, half sec=500ms ! , so stop saying that all the time please it's completely false! lol
by the way, I had said nothing when you had put online our first matches with sinala, but when you said that he performed combos with 1/4 sec of delay (250ms!) online, it was false of course, he had in fact around 35 there and I was the one who had the worst ping (around 100), our first meeting was indeed in an american server...(anti3D I think) but even like that, I also have won several matches, some of them where I had sektor and sinala had kano if I remember right ... but of course you just have put online the matches that Matt had win ... lol
maybe it's not that important, but I'm talking about that now because you don't seem to be impartial, konqrr.

"Bottom line is Nafa, you or any other European player wouldn't win any matches against Shock, Moe, Thrower, or Lex at an arcade based on mathematics. You have a ways to go before you get to their level."

so that's your opinion, but there is sometimes a gap between an opinion and the reality. Besides, you have to admit that you don't know me well, so stop your " the best mk player in the world must be someone I know " stuff.

One last thing, related to what killermiller has written ; of course playing for fun is great but competition is a good thing too, because it helps you improve your skills and also meet some very good players).


pierre

(ps: peace out guyz, it would just be too great to meet you "in real" for some "0 ms" matches lol)

I can safetly say that i suck with everyone, im terrible at fighting games

Ugh more Kaillera arguments.

Kaillera sucks. Its the only thing there is so people are forced to use it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck. The lag fluctuates constantly, there is often choppiness and lag for no apparent reason, and in the end you are playing a totally different game then it was originally. I think it all ends up at the point where the only way to know if you are really better is if the lag is even and one person blows the other away. And, even at that, you end up better at Laggy MK, not even real MK. Some of it translates to arcade play, of course, but how much is hard to tell. It's like comparing UMK3 for Saturn skills to UMK3 for the arcade or, in the case of really bad lag, like comparing MK4 for GBC skills to MK4 for the arcade. Its just too different.

yes i agree with dreemerNJ, but if both players are addicted to keyboard (i mean mame) as so as they are in arcade i think if they both have 0 or 1ms there will be no prob to play just same like the arcade, its my opinion of course