How Noob change into a wraith???
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posted11/12/2005 05:34 AM (UTC)by
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We_Are_Ermac
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11/10/2005 07:16 PM (UTC)
The old Sub-Zero died at the hands of Scorpion and died. His soul becomes tainted and he changed into wraith.

But I Don ́t understand why???

Other evil person ́s who died many times never change into a wraith so why Noob??? Scorpion becomes a specter and not a wraith. where is the difference betwenn this two

Could somehow explain this for me???
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supertim1
11/10/2005 09:10 PM (UTC)
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because scorpion wasn't inhernetly evil in his natural life, and still isn't he throughout mk's history has been at worst extremly vengeful - granted toward the wrong people at times, but definately not evil.

However sub-zero the first was a pretty bad guy, mk mythologies makes him out to pretty much be a remorseless contract killer, and a friggin good one at that, with an insatiable lust for power. And in death he found the means to that end in a new more sinister form. I.m.o pretty damn good plot twist.
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DMitch
11/10/2005 09:13 PM (UTC)
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supertim1 Wrote:
because scorpion wasn't inhernetly evil in his natural life, and still isn't he throughout mk's history has been at worst extremly vengeful - granted toward the wrong people at times, but definately not evil.

However sub-zero the first was a pretty bad guy, mk mythologies makes him out to pretty much be a remorseless contract killer, and a friggin good one at that, with an insatiable lust for power. And in death he found the means to that end in a new more sinister form. I.m.o pretty damn good plot twist.

George Bush is the incarnation of Sub-Zero, not Noob Saibot.
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supertim1
11/10/2005 09:26 PM (UTC)
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DMitch Wrote:
supertim1 Wrote:
because scorpion wasn't inhernetly evil in his natural life, and still isn't he throughout mk's history has been at worst extremly vengeful - granted toward the wrong people at times, but definately not evil.

However sub-zero the first was a pretty bad guy, mk mythologies makes him out to pretty much be a remorseless contract killer, and a friggin good one at that, with an insatiable lust for power. And in death he found the means to that end in a new more sinister form. I.m.o pretty damn good plot twist.

George Bush is the incarnation of Sub-Zero, not Noob Saibot.


yup... gotta agree there dmitch there are a few similarites that can't go unnoticed, they're both power hungry, rather cold in their ethics towards others and their lives. And im sure i've seen Bush in a blue suit before.... maybe just maybe eh...
From my MK2 fic...


”Very well.” And with that Shinnok closed the portal and turned to sorcerer Quan Chi, he was a free-roaming sorcerer, his skin was chalk white. “Shao Kahn wishes to speak with you.”

“I see.” Quan Chi replied.

“Do not worry about it now, first the specter we sent did his job well.” Shinnok said, holding a small soul in his hands. The soul was screaming in torture and pain.

“Yes, Scorpion did his job well. However, if he knew the truth, it would be prove to be disastrous.”

“I wouldn’t worry. Scorpion is a fool. He has no idea why we sent him. All he cared about was his revenge, but regardless.” Shinnok said, holding the soul up for Quan Chi to see. “This fool Sub-Zero thought he could get away with defying us.”

“Yes, had it not been for me, we would’ve lost the amulet for sure.” Quan Chi replied. “I don’t suppose we could make him like Scorpion, who unfortunately had to retain free will if he was carry out the mission we planned for him.”

“Yes, he was a pawn for us, and the best thing is, he doesn’t even know it. Now what should we do to this fool?” Shinnok asked.

“I believe Scorpion left us more than enough to work with.” Quan Chi said pointing to the levitating body in the center, it was Sub-Zero’s charred black body.

O-O-O

At the Lin Kuei Headquarters, word has reached that one of its greatest assassins Sub-Zero has been killed, but by whom they do not know, but rather than mourn his loss, they pass on the name to a new assassin, Sub-Zero’s younger brother.

“With your brother’s death, you now inherit his name. You have been a loyal assassin for us, just like your brother. Do you pledge to honor the Lin Kuei?”

“I will.”

O-O-O

The corpse screamed as the soul was placed into its body, vast energy emitted as Shinnok and Quan Chi performed their spells. This man, once a human assassin was becoming something much worse.

“You told us you didn’t want to be our servant? Well, you are no longer an Lin Kuei Warrior, you now serve us, as part of our Brotherhood of Shadow. Isn’t it ironic? You are becoming the very thing you didn’t want to be.” Quan Chi said, sinisterly.

The corpse screamed with a force that seemed to shake the pit of the Netherrealm.

O-O-O

The young man finished putting on his new blue uniform, placing the mask over his face.

“You are now known as Sub-Zero and your first task to complete the assignment your brother failed... assassinate Shang Tsung!”

”I will.” The new Sub-Zero bowed.

O-O-O

The corpse rose from the ground, life breathed into anew. The once, proud Lin Kuei assassin known as Sub-Zero was no more, consumed by an evil wraith. Similar to his old look, he was clad in a ninja uniform, now black reflecting the evil inside him.

“You are no longer Sub-Zero... you are now our servant. You are a member of the Brotherhood of Shadow. Henceforth, you shall be known as... Noob Saibot.” Shinnok spoke.

The wraith’s eyes opened, which revealed glowing, blue eyes. “Yes, my master.”
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Sub-Zero_7th
11/10/2005 11:51 PM (UTC)
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supertim1 Wrote:
because scorpion wasn't inhernetly evil in his natural life, and still isn't he throughout mk's history has been at worst extremly vengeful - granted toward the wrong people at times, but definately not evil.

However sub-zero the first was a pretty bad guy, mk mythologies makes him out to pretty much be a remorseless contract killer, and a friggin good one at that, with an insatiable lust for power. And in death he found the means to that end in a new more sinister form. I.m.o pretty damn good plot twist.


Well, I don't think what you said was quite all that accurate.

Yes, Sub-Zero wasn't exactly a good guy. He was more like an unlikely anti-hero in MK Mythologies. Although he was a remorseless killer, he was NEVER power hungry in his human life. I don't know how you got that idea, but you're wrong about that. He was stubborn and arrogant though. Raiden had warned him that he had evil in his soul and that only he could change his destiny. Sub-Zero stuck with serving the Lin Kuei and I think he saw his kills as just a job that must be completed. The Lin Kuei did train their warriors to become cold blooded killers so they had a part in Sub-Zero's destiny to become Noob.

When Sub-Zero was killed by Scorpion, his soul descended into the Netherrealm, free from compassion. I think that any and all traces of good he had in his soul were eradicated by the Netherrealm's evil energies. However, I'm sure there's more to it than that. I, like PNF and XiahouDun84, believe that Shinnok and Quan Chi were the ones that helped transform Sub-Zero into Noob Saibot as a means of punishment since when he was a human, he refused to join the Brotherhood of the Shadow. I think either Shinnok created the body for Noob or maybe he reconstructed Sub's charred body.

To We_Are_Ermac: A specter and wraith are the same. It's just different terminology, that's all.
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RainReptile
11/11/2005 03:35 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero the 7th is right
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We_Are_Ermac
11/11/2005 02:39 PM (UTC)
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Ok but why Scorpion has all his Memories and when he was a good guy why he was sent to Netherralm. It was said only evil peole can enter the Netherrealm.




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Sub-Zero_7th
11/12/2005 05:34 AM (UTC)
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We_Are_Ermac Wrote:
Ok but why Scorpion has all his Memories and when he was a good guy why he was sent to Netherralm. It was said only evil peole can enter the Netherrealm.






You don't necessarily have to be evil in order to be able to enter the Netherrealm. If you have enough of an evil taint in your soul, you can enter the Netherrealm.

I think Scorpion's descension into the Netherrealm was the cause of his rage since he was angry at the older Sub-Zero for mercilessly killing him cold blood thus Scorpion wanting to get revenge on Sub-Zero.
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