Who Killed or Beat Shinnok?
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posted09/19/2004 03:57 AM (UTC)by
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I've been playing MK for some time now and almost know everything there is to know yet to this day I have no idea who beat Shinnok and above all what happened to him. What I read tells me Quan Chi but I doubt it. Others say Lui Kang or Raiden and since there is very little mentioning about it in MKDA all the responses I get are a little hazy. On a side note I am new here and am pleased to meet you all.
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Sub_Zero_13
09/15/2004 07:28 PM (UTC)
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Welcome!
Yeah, it IS unclear, so you'll probably get a lot of different responses. However, I believe that it was Liu Kang, since technically his ending happened and he clearly states that he defeated Shinnok. Raiden says "With the help oe earth's mortals" and the other endings that happened, none of them actually said that that character defeated Shinnok. So that's why I believe it was the allmighty immortal Liu Kang... Immortal? Yeah right!
I bet for Liu and Raiden too...
OK, Quan Chi does have the Medallion, but how could he kill Shinnok, as Scorpion dragged him into the Netherealm?
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09/15/2004 07:44 PM (UTC)
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Well maybe the reason Liu Kang was able to kill Shinnok was because Shinnok thought "With my medallion I'm all powerful," but he didn't have the real thing, so liu kang kicked his ass and Quan Chi held on to the real thing.
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09/15/2004 08:04 PM (UTC)
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I guess I'll stick with Kang as the victor then. Thanks. As far as Quan Chi goes although he did plan to kill Shinnok with the aid of Baraka, Quan Chi could have not killed Shinnok. In Quan Chi's Ending he wields it like he knew what he was doing, But in MKDA he knew of it's power and what it can do but did not know how to use it with the execption of opening portals to other realms and he needed the help of Moloch and Drahmin to figure that out.
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09/15/2004 11:17 PM (UTC)
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I'm pretty sure it was Liu Kang who beat Shinnok. In the DA intro, Raiden explains "There they confronted Earth's mightiest warrior and champion of Mortal Kombat; Liu Kang." so he was still MK champ. Even though MK4 wasn't strictly an MK tourney, I'm sure he still gets the title of champion, cus he beat Shinnok.

However I heard that after Liu beat Shinnok, Raiden bainshed him to hell again. So it's kind of a combination of the two.

They didn't explain the transition between MK4/G - MKDA very well...
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09/15/2004 11:19 PM (UTC)
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krsx66 Wrote:
I'm pretty sure it was Liu Kang who beat Shinnok. In the DA intro, Raiden explains "There they confronted Earth's mightiest warrior and champion of Mortal Kombat; Liu Kang." so he was still MK champ. Even though MK4 wasn't strictly an MK tourney, I'm sure he still gets the title of champion, cus he beat Shinnok.

However I heard that after Liu beat Shinnok, Raiden bainshed him to hell again. So it's kind of a combination of the two.

They didn't explain the transition between MK4/G - MKDA very well...

Nicely said krsx66. I think of it the same way.
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09/15/2004 11:27 PM (UTC)
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TakerMK Wrote:
Nicely said krsx66. I think of it the same way.


Thanks Taker. Even though Deadly Alliance expanded the MK story very well (Dragon King anyone???) I was a little disappointed that the MK team seemed to try and cover up MK4/Gold and pretend it never happened.

Either that or give as little info about it as possible. I think there may have been a few tiny mentions in the Krypt or Quan Chi's conquest, I cant remember.

But they really need to clarify what happened at the end of MK4, and its a litlle late for that since there will most likely be no mentions now the focus is on the DK (unless Konquest explains, or Shinnok actualy makes an appearance!)

It seemed to me that they just tried to brush it aside, and we are left to piece together what happened from little bits of scattered info...
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Subzero_5th
09/16/2004 02:46 AM (UTC)
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Shinnok wasn't banished to the Netherealm again. He was killed plain and sinmple (As in Cease to exist). Liu kang never said he beat Shinnok. He said he helped defended the realm of earth. I say Raiden did. Shinnok was ambitious enough to face his ancient enemy again so they must have had a square off.
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Sub_Zero_13
09/16/2004 03:05 AM (UTC)
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"The war is over. I have once again defended my title as the champion of Mortal Kombat, and protected the realm of Earth." It's obvious, man, Liu Kang did it.
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09/16/2004 04:10 AM (UTC)
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Yeah, I'd say the most likely scenario is Liu Kang beating him.


Shinnok didn't have the amulet in MK4. He didn't think he had it either. The amulet had nothing to do with his scheme in MK4.
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09/16/2004 07:37 AM (UTC)
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Easy one here. Liu Kang definitely beat Shinnok. Otherwise, he wouldn't still be the immortal champion of Mortal Kombat in Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance. wink
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Sub_Zero_13
09/16/2004 07:36 PM (UTC)
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Actually, that one image of Shinnok shows him holding the amulet, right before the title animation. Plus Quan Chi's ending, even though that ending didn't happen, it WOULD have if Netherealm won, so what they talk about IS relevant. The maulet was the key. That's why it says in Sub Zero's bio that the secret to killing Shinnok was passed down to him by his sobling: AKA MKM:Sub Zero story.
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09/16/2004 08:39 PM (UTC)
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Kidd thunder killed him.
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09/17/2004 12:03 AM (UTC)
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The picture of Shinnok with the amulet is either old or inaccurate.


Quan Chi's ending supports what I'm saying. He says he delievered the amumulet to Shinnok years ago. He's talking about MKM. That's when the switch happened and is the only time Shinnok had it back.

In MKM Sub-Zero gets the amulet, gives it to Quan Chi, who then makes the switch and gives the fake to Shinnok. Then Sub-Zero goes to Neatherrealm, fights Chi and Shinnok and steals the fake amulet Shinnok had.

At this point Shinnok gave up on getting the amulet back and instead tried to find another way to get out, eventually using a traiter to let him in. Meanwhile Quan Chi had the amulet the whole time and was just waiting for the right time.

If Shinnok had or thought he had the amulet he wouldn't need Tanya to help him escape. He wouldn't need to attack the Heavens.
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Sub_Zero_13
09/17/2004 12:29 AM (UTC)
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Ok, you got some good points... But what about Sub-Zero's bio? It says that he knows the key to defeating Shinnok. Other than the Amulet, what could they mean?
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09/17/2004 02:47 AM (UTC)
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It may have to do with his heritage and mastery over the cold as said in his bio in MKD. It says it may be the key to defeating the Dragon King and his army. Maybe he was going to use this knowledge to beat Shinnok?
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Subzero_5th
09/17/2004 03:16 AM (UTC)
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Definitely raiden.
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09/17/2004 03:41 AM (UTC)
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Sub_Zero_13 Wrote:
Ok, you got some good points... But what about Sub-Zero's bio? It says that he knows the key to defeating Shinnok. Other than the Amulet, what could they mean?



I don't know. Considering his ending made no mention of it it must not have been that important.
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Alpha_Q_Up
09/17/2004 07:56 AM (UTC)
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Hell, anyone couldve beat Shinnok, he was horrible, I wouldn't be suprised if Jarek beat him.
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MKRAYDEN
09/17/2004 08:45 AM (UTC)
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Raiden beat him


Anyanka Wrote:
The picture of Shinnok with the amulet is either old or inaccurate.


Quan Chi's ending supports what I'm saying. He says he delievered the amumulet to Shinnok years ago. He's talking about MKM. That's when the switch happened and is the only time Shinnok had it back.

In MKM Sub-Zero gets the amulet, gives it to Quan Chi, who then makes the switch and gives the fake to Shinnok. Then Sub-Zero goes to Neatherrealm, fights Chi and Shinnok and steals the fake amulet Shinnok had.

At this point Shinnok gave up on getting the amulet back and instead tried to find another way to get out, eventually using a traiter to let him in. Meanwhile Quan Chi had the amulet the whole time and was just waiting for the right time.

If Shinnok had or thought he had the amulet he wouldn't need Tanya to help him escape. He wouldn't need to attack the Heavens.


He WOULD attack the heavens, if he thought he had enough power to defeat the elder gods.

What happened to Shinnok's demon form from MKM:SZ? When you take the amulet from him, he turns into this big demon. That was the only cool thing about him.



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Sub_Zero_13
09/17/2004 11:53 PM (UTC)
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OK, all the Raiden fans, ALL clues pont to Liu Kang, get over it.
Edit: To Tetra_Vega, maybe Shinnok's demon form is some kind of an animality, so the only reason he transformed was because he was really really pissed off, and not because of the lack of the amulet.
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Subzero_5th
09/18/2004 03:47 AM (UTC)
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No Not all. Some clues point to Raiden too
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Sub_Zero_13
09/18/2004 03:57 AM (UTC)
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Just back it up: What kinds of clues?
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