whype your motherfucking tears out your face .

i didnt inf you . ppl like you will never be good , you have a scrub mentality . How many times does Check have to explain to you fools how or why it works ! stop it already !

and for the record you were nearly dead with no breakers . i had almost full life and two breakers . i did 33 for fun if i wanted to kill you i would just walk up to you . you parry 10x more than gan0n .

btw

i wasnt gonna say you quit . you just lost my respect . hope you change .

you'll get used to it Stingy.
it's like complaining that life's not fair.

and don't diss Check, he does not come online and what he posts about the glitches are his opinion not rules.

btw people who like doing glitches on the regular do it cuz they are bored of this game already and chances of them leaving MKA are high so don't stress over it.

First off, im not here to diss anyone or their fighting style or the mastermind behind it..

personally.. I think doing 5 33 air cancles is pushing it a little far. I use AC the same way i used OTG in MKD once per combo(possibly twice) lol funny part is most of these scrubs still give me shit for doing it once saying i INFED them doing ONE ac last guy who said it was meathook lol that guy is funny..

When I did play... I never used 3,3.

I have never liked it.... but you will never see me bitch about it, if it's performed on me.

The reason I dont like it is simple...

You cant do it offline !


I always thought about it this way :

" If you can do it offline... your good to go"

" If you cant do it offline, but only online.... its not legit. "

As for AC's.... I have NO problems with them what so ever. I encourage people to do them because they actually can be done offlline.


I really dont care because I dont play anymore... but thats just what I always believed in.

Peace

^ everyone who knows me knows i dont use em unless for example last night i was on ps2 for a bit havin fun. i hadnt played online in a bit . and im on xbox now .

You got it working ?

honestly i h8 33's lol i h8 them that glitch is fucking retarded and would've never happened if the stupid air combo was never thought of lol (i think dont know if it was in MKD or MKDA) but anyway i h8 wen ppl do 33's cuz its annoying to sit threw but i dont cry about it (so yes bone i h8 wen u 33 u blaze,gs usin scrub lol jk)

i only do it wen someone jumps and as i come down i press 11 or 33 so it comes out being one

i got the code from ebay already . im not up to playing right now so ill activate it tomorro .

k first of all im not crying about it and second of all im just tellin u people i will quit if u 33glitch once big deal but if u do it 3x or more i will quit and like he said its just a game i dont really care but the f***ers who care bout rank are the ones who do it all the time so yes i will quit on them if the have to glitch to be considered high level players and as far as im concerend i come on here to play for fun not to sit thres minutes of 33 glitch every time im on so bone dont bitch at me im sorry i dont like glitching u do o well all i ask is not to do them to me and as far as my parries i really dont mean to do it that much idk it just happens i fight noobs that attack every 2 seconds then i fight u or another non scrub and u wait its really difficult to adjust to that but as far as us fighting its up to u peace

As I’ve said before 1 33 or a/c per combo should be legit. Stinger (who should learn how to type) and I play like this offline and it is far more fun. 33, 33, 33 pop up 33, 33, 33 (20- 30% alone) just makes this an even boring game then it was before.

But maybe it would be more fun if the game was not based on who can wait out there opponent more.

I also do not think the freeze grab is legit. Every time it happens it just adds even more lag to an already almost unplayable game due to lag.

Thank fully most people do not uses these glitch. But then again I always have blaze to use.


Maybe we should have a vote on all this. Ruling on thing like this should made as a community.

I know what you are talkin about... but it's not a reason to quit !!!
just talk to the guys after and tell him you don't like that...
and if he don't understand, you know to not play him anymore
But i'm sure Bone will understand, he's a very good player
and he don't need these shitty 33 to win !!!!!

I don't like that 33 Glitch !! ...i think that's the worst, boring and
ugly bug in this game !!! That's why i prefer to play offline.
The Players are killing this game. It's my opinion... but i will
not Quit if someone do it to me, cause i NEVER Quit on anyone.



I agree... 100%

All PS2 Online user should vote !!!!

If were votin I vote yes for A/C's and no for 33's for the simple fact that you cant use them offline

Any move that can be made into an infinte is not legit.

There! Problem solved. Let's move on with our lives.

if you feel that way tell me dont quit .



btw


i doubt well play again im on xbox now .

so far, not one person has countered a single point ive made on why doing is not only legit, but makes the game 1) balanced 2) more fun 3) worth playing

ive read some dumb shit from someone who said doing 33 33 33 is boring but doing one ac isnt. the both take the same amount of time

then you got the author of this thread changing his reasons why he doesnt like it. i guess he realized the damage is coming from THE GROUND COMBO and not 33's.

33 = 4% usually.


then you got these other dudes talking about offline like they know more then me, funny stuff..

33 does work offline, but it cannot be done infinitly

in fact, it can be, and is why the rules are what they are

112, cs, 1, cs, 112, cs, 1, etc, etc, etc

^^if youre gonna deny that, then you basically havent listened to a word ive said in all my attempts to show you WHY ITS LEGIT

if 112 guarentees another 112 ( 112cs1 cs 112cs1 etc ) then doing 112cs1 1121134cs is 100% legit

since a second pop up DOES NOT PLANT. ( question is do any of you know why? apparently not so far ) this guarentees the same exact combo over again. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

further more, if i hit the wall at the end of this combo, i could jump up again, and do it again. but when the rules were made, it was discussed that doing 3 sets is TOO LONG and IS BORING and NOONE WANTS TO SIT THERE FOR LONGER THEN 2 SETS. dont gimme that shit that 2 sets is boring because ive watched THOUSANDS of combos and put myself in the same position and asked myself. " as a viewer, when do i start to lose interest?" and since everything was clicking and it made more sense since a 3rd pop up would plant. to allow a second set, no questions asked.

further more, using a second pop up is pointless, the damage is always the same unless the popup does full damage and theres only 3 of those ( fujin noob sub ) using 2 sets is only useful for wall combos which are meant to be more damaging anyway.

moving on

33 33 33 was decided on since ac's are 6 hits. whether you like it or not, you cant argue it. try if you'd like.

do not bring up ground nonsense such as jades throw or mkd otgs because AIR KOMBAT IS A ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ENGINE, proof is when you do a ac after a popup, a second popup doesnt plant. you cant argue that either.

and stop going by the amount of times you do 33. the reason is because acs do not work online as often as they should, 33's do and pretty much saved this game from diaster.

another lunatic calling it the worst, UGLIEST, boring glitch, your point has just been countered. whether you like it or not.

again if i can do 112cs1 cs 1121134cs OFFLINE ( or online ) thats over 10 hits compared to just 6 hits from doing 33. again, this is not arguable or debatable or votable, its just what the game allows.

if youre gonna bitch that it doesnt work offline, then maybe you need to go play the game offline instead of online, because if you had any brains you'd realize that the most important of offline is ac's, and that does not work online, 33 DOES, and saves the game for a enjoyable offline type expierience.

again the damage comes from the ground combo you are doing, not the ac's not the 33's.

moving on

first hits whatever they are are guarenteed in the air, this does not count as the first 33/ac

so if you were to argue anything, it would be

33 33

compared to

33 33 33

ive made my point as to why 33 33 33 is better, simply because ac's are 6 hits, and you can do almost 15 hits in the air without them (112cs1 cs 1121134 )

you can also 33 off of 112 online

that makes

112 33 33

compared to a ac

112 1134cs

same exact thing

another weirdo talking about any move that can be done infinitly makes it not legit. this guy forgets a very important part of the combo THE GROUND

as long as you use the ground in these type of combos, they are not infinites AT ALL ONLINE, you cant 33 off of anything but a second pop up nor can you do anything other then a quick jab off a ac.

theres not much else to say really, you people trying to vote on shit now trying to change legitimate rules for a legitimate type of combo that has been used for how long now?? have any of you seen the amount of work ive done for online vids?? do you think i would of did that before consulting with high level players on whats the best rules FOR THE COMMUNITY??

ive done as much as i could to help people understand, you got this hater talking about my rules are just opinion. when everything ive just wrote is based on fact and what the game allows.

doing 33 33 33 is the same thing as doing 1 ac, and thats the bottom line anyway you look at it. its not even arguable, yet people will bitch about it for no reason ( its boring, it doesnt work offline, etc, etc )

truth is it balances out the entire cast and gives everyone the same damage. YOU CANT ARGUE THAT AT ALL. you can vote all you want but it wont change anything. IT MAKES THE GAME BETTER. rules were created for it so that people wouldnt abuse it

free throws lead to the same damage: 16%

free throws that launch lead to even more: 30%

pc leads to over 40% or more, and is the worst glitch of all

free throws and otgs in the same combo in mkd lead to 40% or more. and used 3 sets and would be considered "boring" to some people here. too bad

otgs in mkd were 10 or more hits, plus the free throw combo, another 5-10 hits

otgs in mkd were done after 3 pop ups, then resetted the combo.

to attain the damage you get from otgs in mkd with ac's, you would have to use 112 3 times.

only bad thing about 33's is they dont reduce the damage after each one, that is why only doing 3 is allowed.

anything repeated more then twice is a infinite with something as small as this ( 2 hits )


shang tsung ( among others ) offline can do

b3, 112111, b3, 112111,cs, b4 (wall) cs, 112111, cs, b4, cs, b4

thats 3 sets, and just proves how a combo should look. but the rule is only 2 sets per combo as i explained, its better and keeps the pace of the match going.

using either pop up 33 33 33 combo or pop up 33 33 33 pop up 33 33 33 combo does the same amount of damage, so theres no point in bitching about it.

if something that takes 3 seconds is boring you, you might wanna check for A.D.D. because theres something seriously wrong with you.

noones stopping you from using them back on the person.

and now for only the reasons that i would know or mention. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART imo.

the first 33, besides it being guarenteed. is always too low to the ground, therefore the ground combo after it will start too low and the combo will not be able to finish.

THE FIRST 33 after that is done at the proper height, ( if done right ) because while jumping, you can do 33 higher, this is crucial and plays the biggest role for ac combos offline. for example

after i do my ac offline, i can choose the height i want the combo to start at it. this is what makes the system so deep and the combos so hard to perform, EVERYTHING has to be done at a certain height and EVERYTHING cannot be done without doing another ac to level it out. ( along with jump canceling after the first ac, which im sure none of you know anything about )

offline, characters like scorpion,sub zero etc can legitimatlly do 5 acs in a row, this proves the ability they were meant to have, along with the damage is IDENTICAL to the rule system i created. in fact, it does even more damage then my rules

why can they legimitally do it? because after 5, they cant do anymore, since they cant do it till you die, like all other acs, this makes it legit, you cant argue this either. it would be the same thing as doing 12 12 12 113cs with sub on the ground.

moving on, and finishing up the owning.

so youre wondering "if i can do 1121134cs cs 1121134cs offline, then why cant i do 33 33 33 33 33 33?"

first of all, anything repeated more then twice is a infinite ( if it can be done infinitly )

second off 112cs1134cs cs 1121134cs combo would do the same damage as 33 33 33 combo. it is the perfect balance between the 2, and noone was able to figure this out logically but me.

third off since 112 reduces the damage it can be done again. the amount of hits it does is why it is only repeated once, and not twice.

while on that subject

the first 7 hits are guarenteed no matter what. adding a ac to the damage 1) reduces the damage like a second popup would 2) doesnt mean the combo will do more damage after it since it is reduced after each time.

since 33 does not reduce the damage, the amount you can do per set ( compared to ac's ) IS CUT IN HALF. no questions asked. unless you are doing a ac after those 33's, you cant do anymore then 3 of them PER SET. 2 SETS PER COMBO. even though 3 sets is legit. the rules are only 2.


once again if 112 guarentees another 112, then doing 2 acs is legit

if the second pop up doesnt plant, this resets the combo, no different then otgs in mkd

112 is a air pop up that guarentees another 4 hits, so 8 of those 12 hits are automatically guarenteed besides the first 7 hits being guarenteed as well

the 33 in a combo is the same exact thing: guarenteed. adding one more 33 to it would only increase the damage by 4% so theres no reason to complain about it, the damage is coming from the ground combo you could do without the 33's

as well, ground combos that you would do without the 33's would miss most of the time because of lag.

by using 33, you give yourself time and can actually see the person falling, not to mention it the ground will never miss unless the connection is really bad.

so when it comes down to it. you are bitching about a 15-20% air combo then guarentees a ground combo. due to lack of a 3rd stance, this fits perfectly into the engine that mkd had, and helps make the game more balanced. no questions asked.

and again, if you are bitching about 20% air combo, maybe you need to play a different game? or 4%? free throws do the same damage.

theres no arguing 33 33 pop up 33 33 combo

if you wanna argue the 3rd 33 go right ahead, but i assure you, the damage is closer to offline by using the 3 and 3 method.

cant say im surprised at a few of you, who would even dare to try and challenge my rules, and all that ive done for the community thus far. none of you have a fuckin clue as far as im concerned. if it makes you feel any better ill come online and let you infinite me across the screen everytime someone uses 33/ac on you

this has been a fuckin sad day, thats all i can say. while all of you were getting your asses kicked online, i was offline making movies and figuring all this shit out FOR YOU only to see this shit? fuck all of you as far as im concerned. you couldnt hold a fuckin brick to me and my intelligence. you all will come up with some stupid ignorant rule such as 1 per combo with ignoring WHAT THE ENTIRE GAME HAS TO OFFER. which none of you would know anything about. NOONE BUT ME had any right to make the rules. i am the combo king, i have spent more time with the game then any of you. i know whats right and im not trying to be conceited here. its just doing what you are doing now is a total slap in the face to the amount of time ive put forth making movies, coming up with rules, explaining how they work everytime this stupid thread pops up.

go hang out the backstabber nukesgoboom or the theif jfcalibur, those 2 idiots wont even use a fuckin free throw.

im out of here, and let me just say, i cant wait to release my new movies filled with glitches, air cancels, wall otgs and parry cancels. then work on the BEST OF ONLINE combo vid with karate. shit god only knows i spent 12 hours working on it today, and the day before, and the day before going back to fucking october, motherfuckers.

PROPS TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE USED THE RULE SYSTEM AND KEPT THIS GAME FROM GETTING OUT OF HAND. DONT LISTEN TO THIS IDIOT NEST SAYING YOU ARE KILLING THE GAME.

later

"Any move that can be made into an infinte is not legit. " "There! Problem solved. Let's move on with our lives." "FINALLY, the answer to my question lol, I already knew the answer, I just wanted to hear lol If you know what I mean... " WRONG AGAIN!!!!!! you listen to a person who doesnt know more then me? thats funny!!! i guess he forgot about the ground part,hmm? there are no infinites online using 33 or ac THERE!! PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!!! ; )

^ good shit check . i was gonna PM you the link to this but im like fuck it im on xbox now and besides im shure youll see it .




now i feel like going back to ps2 for a bit to play you check . wen are you available . im gonna need time to fix my ps2 it cant read discs as good anymore .[ EDIT ] damit ! this is fucked up . cant believe you guys made him leave . yo check join me on the other forum . or pm me your aim if you got one .

Check, I respect your videos and all the stuff you've done. However dude, you get really defensive whenever people disagree with the 'rules' you've made. The problem with those rules is simple. You created them. Nest suggesting a voting isn't such a bad idea. As a matter of fact it would enhances gameplay because everyone gets to have a say on what's legit and what's not.

I've said it several times that your rules are your opinion on how the game should be played and you should accept that and in return respect other people's view on them.

Again, I love your videos Check and admire your awesome dedication but this isn't a military regime where one man tells everyone how to live their lives based on rules he created.

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Back on the core subject; I have a mixed opinion on 33s and a/cs online. Lately, I've been mastering a/c and it feels damn good whenever I pull it off. In the process I've created my own rule. I do 112, 113 cs 4444 then followed with a combo. I won't go 112,113cs44444 112,113cs 44444 etc, etc. That's just my opinion on how I feel a/c should be utilized. I still hate 33s tho. Someone else would disagree and I respect that. Opinions will always vary on this subject and that's not going change simply because most of these people know enough about the game to make a choice on what's fair or not (especially now that it's been out for almost a year) so we just have to get on with it.

Trax

I have kept my mouth shut long enough.

The MK team introduced air combos and parries for MKA as 2 cool new features not anticipating both of them would result in major infinite glitches.

CHECK, I actually read that whole thing your wrote and it was the biggest waste of my time, not to mention you disrespected everybody including people who have been giving you respect and kissing and supporing your ass all this time. this is getting really sad CHECK, u never come online and sit in the lobby like we do waiting to play a decent online game and I couldn't care any less that you think you are better than us, which apparently gives you the right to disrespect the whole community.

you have got your respect before for finding out all kinds of glitches that this whole community couldn't find out even if we tried (which we don't), get over yourself, you want more recognition, come online and play with us.
AND IF YOU FIGURE YOU ARE TOO GOOD TO PLAY US ONLINE OR ANY OTHER LAME ASS EXCUSES THAT PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING ONLINE, then let it go, CUZ WE ARE THE ONE THAT GO ONLINE PRACTICALLY EVERYDAY AND PUT UP WITH THIS GAME, while you simply figure out what's wrong with MKA and set rules for the many major flaws that should not be used but get used anyway because CHECK says it's ok.

Check...

There are no reason to get out of MKO... but you have to be more
respectfull to other players, as soon as someone don't have the
same opinion than you, he's an idiot !!! And you are the GOD who
decide all the Rules ??? ok Sadam...

I think every member must have the right to vote on that
why it should be only one person who decide for all others ??
I don't know where you live... but here is the democracy !!!!!

I don't join your game and don't say Fuck you Check...
I still respect all that you did for this community but we just
don't have the same opinion on that thing.

^ This is exactly why i left . and other stupid shit aswell .