ROTFL@YOU Wrote: UrbanSmooth Wrote: [Shaokahn] Wrote: I actually like the way MK:D is looking fatality wise.Yes it is true some of them arent the best,but hey i'm not complaining.I havent been this stoked about a mk game since 2.I'm just very happy to get such a game that brings all the feelings back. No, the fatalities are not that great. They could be much better. They look too computerized. They need to look much more realistic, and can be made much more realistic! The 'perfect limb rips' are quite a disappointment, even for MK! There needs to be a lot more messy randomness to MK fatalities! What happened to "people can form their own opinion". ROTFL@YOU

That is his opinion you fool.

He was disagreeing with someone elses opinion with His opinion.

He never stated that it was a fact.

Your homework for tonight is to look up Fac and Opinion on the dictionary and write a paragraph in which you compare and contrast the meanings.

ummm im sorry but you probably haven't noticed that every game has had some pretty strange things that go with fatalities, remember how mk 2 had 12 torsos 5 arms and 8 legs lying around after they blew up? Yeah, and remember how reptile would just grab their head with his toungue and everything else stood perfectly still.

every mk game has had some stupid things that happen with fatalities, and frankly these ones are just fine. They're definitley better than mk3 and if you are whining about people exploding for no reason then welcome to the mk universe buddy get used to it.

and shut your pie hole!

sektile Wrote: ummm im sorry but you probably haven't noticed that every game has had some pretty strange things that go with fatalities, remember how mk 2 had 12 torsos 5 arms and 8 legs lying around after they blew up? Yeah, and remember how reptile would just grab their head with his toungue and everything else stood perfectly still. every mk game has had some stupid things that happen with fatalities, and frankly these ones are just fine. They're definitley better than mk3 and if you are whining about people exploding for no reason then welcome to the mk universe buddy get used to it. and shut your pie hole!

No.

Christopher777 Wrote: sektile Wrote: ummm im sorry but you probably haven't noticed that every game has had some pretty strange things that go with fatalities, remember how mk 2 had 12 torsos 5 arms and 8 legs lying around after they blew up? Yeah, and remember how reptile would just grab their head with his toungue and everything else stood perfectly still. every mk game has had some stupid things that happen with fatalities, and frankly these ones are just fine. They're definitley better than mk3 and if you are whining about people exploding for no reason then welcome to the mk universe buddy get used to it. and shut your pie hole! No.

LOL!

I don't care about past bad MK fatalities! MK's current fatalities need to be much better! Don't look back, look foward in this case!

I agree with Chris, the fatalities that I've seen are pretty bad, with the exception of a few. It's almost as if the MK team is running out of ideas, or they do not know how to animate the ideas that they have.

I'm still pretty disappointed with the perfect limb-ripping. Like I've said many times, the MK fatalities need a realistic randomness to them!

[Shaokahn] Wrote: I actually like the way MK:D is looking fatality wise.Yes it is true some of them arent the best,but hey i'm not complaining.I havent been this stoked about a mk game since 2.I'm just very happy to get such a game that brings all the feelings back.

I agree I think this will probally be the best game since MK2. Im a little skeptical that it will be better than MK2, But it will most likely be equal to it.

Anyways Ive Ive stated a billion times, most of the Fatalties are looking great. Some are bizarre and poor looking, but I am hoping it won't be all. Anyways I love the way the game looks. Digitized would be ok I guess. But I like the current look. Its not the look of the game though that bugs me, just the Crash dummy limbs.

MK2 had 20 legs and tons of Intestines
MK3 was a siaster with like 8 Legs and 12 Skulls
MK4 The blood looked like baggies of Ketchup
MKDA The flesh looked like Popcorn
MKD Limbs Pop off when any fighters body comes in contact with another fighters body.

Its just MK, but In my opinion these are the best ones yet, they could just have gone the extra mile.

UrbanSmooth Wrote: Christopher777 Wrote: sektile Wrote: ummm im sorry but you probably haven't noticed that every game has had some pretty strange things that go with fatalities, remember how mk 2 had 12 torsos 5 arms and 8 legs lying around after they blew up? Yeah, and remember how reptile would just grab their head with his toungue and everything else stood perfectly still. every mk game has had some stupid things that happen with fatalities, and frankly these ones are just fine. They're definitley better than mk3 and if you are whining about people exploding for no reason then welcome to the mk universe buddy get used to it. and shut your pie hole! No. LOL! I don't care about past bad MK fatalities! MK's current fatalities need to be much better! Don't look back, look foward in this case! I agree with Chris, the fatalities that I've seen are pretty bad, with the exception of a few. It's almost as if the MK team is running out of ideas, or they do not know how to animate the ideas that they have. I'm still pretty disappointed with the perfect limb-ripping. Like I've said many times, the MK fatalities need a realistic randomness to them!

Randomness is the key, your right. When I saw the third trailer and Ashrah was getting crushed by press in the prison, I was shocked. There was almost no blood and her limbs literally popped off at six different spots, perfectly in tact, complete with popping noise !

The Popped limbs also seemed to pop right out of the compactor.

The rest of the Death Traps are looking ok, but this one is just garbage.

Midway really can't win. Everything they do is never good enough for some people.
You're right about that Deathtrap, Christopher777. It's pretty grim looking, but I doubt that's the final version and if it is, it's only one out of over 75 (given at LEAST 13 deathtraps and 48 Fatalities, not to mention 24 Hara Kiris)

Bezou,

I completely agree. Many of them are looking fantastic. I mean there could be only like 10 stupid fatalities and the rest great. If thats the case awesome. Im just hoping that the bad ones are the minority and the good ones are the majority

Urban, as a person who has worked with 3-D modeling what you are asking is NOT possible. As much as the technology has advanced lately, about as realistic as modern technology gets is Soul Calibur 2 or Rumble Roses. You cannot digitally capture a person like you want. just the raw data of such a feat would easily take up one DVD if not several. You can put advanced textures on models, but even then, things aren't going to look much better. Lets also not forget that these systems are also several years old, further limiting the capability of these games.

As for the blood... In what MK game did this ever look like real blood? It has always been bright red "cherry bags", no matter how much you want to deny it. You want ripped limbs? Leave here and come back when MK7 is coming out. Maybe you will get lucky then... but probably not.

Mortal Kombat is not reallife and in no way tries to emulate it. After all when was the last time you saw a God walking around wearing a reed hat. You want things that either cannot be done, or wouldn't fit into the existing MK universe. If you don't like the way things are, well guess what... there is the door. Leave and stop bothering those of us who enjoy what this game is becoming.

UrbanSmooth Wrote: [Shaokahn] Wrote: I actually like the way MK:D is looking fatality wise.Yes it is true some of them arent the best,but hey i'm not complaining.I havent been this stoked about a mk game since 2.I'm just very happy to get such a game that brings all the feelings back. No, the fatalities are not that great. They could be much better. They look too computerized. They need to look much more realistic, and can be made much more realistic! The 'perfect limb rips' are quite a disappointment, even for MK! There needs to be a lot more messy randomness to MK fatalities!

Yeah you are right about that.If an old game like way of the warrior can manage to make fatalities look alot more realistic,then in these times and technology we should have the realism.I agree with that.

Christopher777 Wrote: ROTFL@YOU Wrote: UrbanSmooth Wrote: [Shaokahn] Wrote: I actually like the way MK:D is looking fatality wise.Yes it is true some of them arent the best,but hey i'm not complaining.I havent been this stoked about a mk game since 2.I'm just very happy to get such a game that brings all the feelings back. No, the fatalities are not that great. They could be much better. They look too computerized. They need to look much more realistic, and can be made much more realistic! The 'perfect limb rips' are quite a disappointment, even for MK! There needs to be a lot more messy randomness to MK fatalities! What happened to "people can form their own opinion". ROTFL@YOU That is his opinion you fool. He was disagreeing with someone elses opinion with His opinion. He never stated that it was a fact. Your homework for tonight is to look up Fac and Opinion on the dictionary and write a paragraph in which you compare and contrast the meanings.

He was still stating his opinion, so your words don't stop you from looking like a HYPOCRITE.

Christopher777 Wrote: Yawn, Perhaps you should get a phonics tape ? You are still onviously having trouble understanding and reading what Ive wrote. The product is 95% finished. Any fatalities are done. Since fatalities are 100% eye candy and are in no way interactive, then I am in a perfect position to judge them. Fatalities are judged only on their looks, and from what Ive seen I don;t like how some look. I don;t need to wait another month. Its not like in another month I will for some reason like them. I could understand you having a point if this was a gameplay thread, since gameplay requires interaction, but this is a fatality thread, and its based 100% on visuals. ROTFL@YOU Wrote: You say their good(assuming that means you like them) then you give a whole summary about how it could have been better. Actually I listed the ones I thought were good and the ones I thought were bad. I wrote only one comment about one fatality, which was Kira's. It was in the good category, but I wanted to make a comment about it, because it could have been better. However, just because it could have been better, doesnt mean it was bad. Im sorry if its confusing you, no one else seems to be having any trouble. ROTFL@YOU Wrote: When it really sounds like you didn't like them at all, and just end it off by saying it would have been perfect this way. So obviously for the most part you're just bitching but sayin, "it's good, i just think it sucks" lol This was the most incoherant babble I have ever read. Its 100% clear you didnt actually read my post. THINK before you speak. But since you need special attention, I will oblige you. I didnt flip flop on the issue, I listed the Good and the Bad. I made one comment about a "good" one since I thought it could have been better but was overall a nice job. Good-Bad Good-Bad Two seperate categories. ROTFL@YOU Wrote: I just have a problem with you judging unfinished products. No that isnt the end-all of your problems unfortunately. You have a problem with many things, the actual points I am making are not among them. Anyways the Product in question is not the game, but the Fatalities, and in essence they are a finished product. So I can judge them. Some are great Some suck Balls. See, Good-Bad ROTFL@YOU Wrote: It's like if I was working on a model airplane and you jumped up and said you painted half of it but the other half isn't painted. lol You see what I mean, it makes you come off as an idiot. It's NOT FINISHED...lol Wait till it's finished, but by all means kid..keep making yourself look stupid, so I can keep clowning you. Yes but the game isnt half done. Its 95% done. They are in the Bug Hunting stage. If this was March you may have a case, but since we are four weeks away, you really cannot make the unfinished argument and hope to be considered credible. This game is done. They are not going to magically change all the bad Fatalities in the at the last minute and make them look amazing, get real. btw, throw a few more lol's in, I dont think you had enough. But please, when you respond, take some time, THINK and READ.

I forgot you worked for Ed Boon and he let you see the final fatalities, cus the game is "95% done"...or so you think. Is it gonna be 98% done in 2 weeks? Tell me how the fatalities looked on a t.v. screen? Please reply and share more wisdom on this "fatality" subject, see I didn't realise you were on the "inside" of the gaming world.

p.s.- I wrote babble,why would you reply to babble? Did I strike a nerve, awww i'm sorry.
I'll shed a tear for you later..

ha!

Actually My words are not required at all, you are right. Anyone with a reasonably lucid and logical mind can see how incoherantanly you present your point.

He was not being hypocritical. Stating your own opinion that disagrees with someone elses is not contradictory to allowing others to have their own opinions.

It was stated

"People can have Their own opinions"

Just because you don't agree with an opinion, or just because a person states their opinion passionately or agressively, does not mean that person is mistaking their opinion for fact, or is restricting anyone elses for that matter.
Urban then stated his opinion on something that was being discussed. He did not say "This is fact and you arent allowed to think other wise!" He stated his OPINION.

You then Jumnped in and said

"Hey lol what lol ever lol lol happened lol lol to let people lol have their own lol opinions lol lol lol.!"

I fail to see how anything that was said was hypocritical.

Your new assignment

Look up Hyprocritical.

i'm not worried,but from what i've seen in the videos,it's obvious that some fatalities are very cool and some others look generic....


fear the Noob....Smoke

It's over kid, me and him stopped talking. Why are you jumping in? Nevermind, I know why...I hurt your feelings and this is your way of getting back at me.(you're so mature) I especially like how you quote me, the "lols" must really bother you, I take it you don't like being laughed at.You must've been traumatized with redicule at an early age.

Hide the fact you're pathetic a little less next time.


THE END.

ROTFL@YOU Wrote: Christopher777 Wrote: Yawn, Perhaps you should get a phonics tape ? You are still onviously having trouble understanding and reading what Ive wrote. The product is 95% finished. Any fatalities are done. Since fatalities are 100% eye candy and are in no way interactive, then I am in a perfect position to judge them. Fatalities are judged only on their looks, and from what Ive seen I don;t like how some look. I don;t need to wait another month. Its not like in another month I will for some reason like them. I could understand you having a point if this was a gameplay thread, since gameplay requires interaction, but this is a fatality thread, and its based 100% on visuals. ROTFL@YOU Wrote: You say their good(assuming that means you like them) then you give a whole summary about how it could have been better. Actually I listed the ones I thought were good and the ones I thought were bad. I wrote only one comment about one fatality, which was Kira's. It was in the good category, but I wanted to make a comment about it, because it could have been better. However, just because it could have been better, doesnt mean it was bad. Im sorry if its confusing you, no one else seems to be having any trouble. ROTFL@YOU Wrote: When it really sounds like you didn't like them at all, and just end it off by saying it would have been perfect this way. So obviously for the most part you're just bitching but sayin, "it's good, i just think it sucks" lol This was the most incoherant babble I have ever read. Its 100% clear you didnt actually read my post. THINK before you speak. But since you need special attention, I will oblige you. I didnt flip flop on the issue, I listed the Good and the Bad. I made one comment about a "good" one since I thought it could have been better but was overall a nice job. Good-Bad Good-Bad Two seperate categories. ROTFL@YOU Wrote: I just have a problem with you judging unfinished products. No that isnt the end-all of your problems unfortunately. You have a problem with many things, the actual points I am making are not among them. Anyways the Product in question is not the game, but the Fatalities, and in essence they are a finished product. So I can judge them. Some are great Some suck Balls. See, Good-Bad ROTFL@YOU Wrote: It's like if I was working on a model airplane and you jumped up and said you painted half of it but the other half isn't painted. lol You see what I mean, it makes you come off as an idiot. It's NOT FINISHED...lol Wait till it's finished, but by all means kid..keep making yourself look stupid, so I can keep clowning you. Yes but the game isnt half done. Its 95% done. They are in the Bug Hunting stage. If this was March you may have a case, but since we are four weeks away, you really cannot make the unfinished argument and hope to be considered credible. This game is done. They are not going to magically change all the bad Fatalities in the at the last minute and make them look amazing, get real. btw, throw a few more lol's in, I dont think you had enough. But please, when you respond, take some time, THINK and READ. I forgot you worked for Ed Boon and he let you see the final fatalities, cus the game is "95% done"...or so you think. Is it gonna be 98% done in 2 weeks? Tell me how the fatalities looked on a t.v. screen? Please reply and share more wisdom on this "fatality" subject, see I didn't realise you were on the "inside" of the gaming world. p.s.- I wrote babble,why would you reply to babble? Did I strike a nerve, awww i'm sorry. I'll shed a tear for you later.. ha!

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UrbanSmooth,

Seriously do us all a favor and just shut up. No one from Midway is going to change anything just cause you said YOU don't like it. The majority of the people on the board here have gripes about something in Deception, but like someone stated before, most everyone here is going to buy the game anyways. If you hate it that much, don't buy it. Stop complaining about everything and shut the hell up.

-Fuj

reptile88 Wrote: i'm not worried,but from what i've seen in the videos,it's obvious that some fatalities are very cool and some others look generic.... fear the Noob....Smoke

Sub-zeros and Mileenas head rip were amazing. I couldnt believe the originallity and downright creativity of those two. Visually Sub-Zero's fatality might be the best looking ever. In my opinion.

Opps Im not supposed to say anything about that though. Aparantly the Game isnt done, so I'm not allowed to form an opinion. They will probally suck when I see them on a T.V. screen. Sorry, didn;t mean to get anyones hopes up.

Yeah I agree that Sub Zeros looks excellent.By far my fav along with Jades Hara-Kiri.

[Shaokahn] Wrote: Yeah I agree that Sub Zeros looks excellent.By far my fav along with Jades Hara-Kiri.

I'd like to see a few more weapons in the Kara Kiris. They look pretty good, but I have a feeling there might be alot of self inflicted head injuries.

How about a good old Fashioned self Gutting ? or Self Throat cutting ?

Well, I know why a lot of them will be head-related. It's the same reason a lot of the Fatalities are decapitations. The surest way to kill someone is to remove their head.

I think alot of the fatalities look excellent. Mileena's head eat looks amazing, and Jade's looks great too. I like the fantasy edge to them all, funny but gruesome.

Looking back at the videos of MK1 & 2, at the time they were amazing, but now they just seem silly or generic. Alot of the effects were reused and duplicated, but we still thought they were great at the time.

I think we should wait and see what the game is going to be like. I am really happy with how everything looks so far. It looks like it's going to be the best MK to date...the costumes are much improved, we are getting an unusual but strong character selection and the backgrounds are now interactive. Fan boy or not, i can't wait to play this game, and i know that the people 'bitching' will also buy and like this game!

Bad_Girl_Love Wrote: I think alot of the fatalities look excellent. Mileena's head eat looks amazing, and Jade's looks great too. I like the fantasy edge to them all, funny but gruesome. Looking back at the videos of MK1 & 2, at the time they were amazing, but now they just seem silly or generic. Alot of the effects were reused and duplicated, but we still thought they were great at the time. I think we should wait and see what the game is going to be like. I am really happy with how everything looks so far. It looks like it's going to be the best MK to date...the costumes are much improved, we are getting an unusual but strong character selection and the backgrounds are now interactive. Fan boy or not, i can't wait to play this game, and i know that the people 'bitching' will also buy and like this game!

Of course we will, or we wouldnt be here

I just hope to see some different fatality possibilities:

Kung Lao - Vertical Slice is a MUST!!!

Kitana - stab in mouth and open (Half-way) decapitating them at the mouth line instead of neck!

Sonya - use windblades, hold down opponent and shred their face with it!

Reptile - Invisible Bites - he turns invisible and the opponent starts looking all over them like bugs are attacking them but nothing is seen except for bite marks appearing all over their body!!

Raiden - Original Head Shock Fatality but veins in body burst out before the head explodes!

Johnny Cage - New Decapitation Uppercut - he steps on u'r feet, punches through u'r body and quickly motions an uppercut throught the body, knocking off the head at the end of the rip!!

Nightwolf - SCALP FATALITY IS A MUST!!!

it is perfectly ok to critique parts of mkd in a mkd forum. the people who critique it are only envisioning a perfect mk. that being said...

i can't wait for its release because it is clearly the best mk ever. however, i too am disappointed in some of the fatalities. they need to do away with the limps flying off stuff and i hate both of sindel's. the silly fatalities are one of the only flaws in mk. imo here are the things that need fixes for mk7.

1. gameplay
2. combos/juggles
3. silly fatalities

don't get me wrong, i love mk just as much as anyone!! i just want it to be even better!