1) Ermac.
2) Well I think they both should, Ermac is a much better user of Telekenisis, but Kenshi holds his own. I love his storyline.
3) Umm....wouldn't suck. I wouldn't necessarily want to see it either though.


1) I think that Shang Tsung is probably the most sinister. His ability to morph gives him endless chances of doing evil. However, I would have to say that Shinnok is the best sorcerer.
2)If only one could, I would choose Quan Chi though. I would love to see Scorpion avenge himself by taking out Quan Chi.

TELEKINESIS:
1- Ermac. I think it suits him better, and I always preferred the "great swordsman" aspect of Kenshi over his telekinetic powers.

2- I would say both. I think Ermac has good potential to go somewhere and Kenshi's a cool character whom I think shouldn't be thrown away since he's still pretty new.

3- Hell no.


SORCERER:
1- Quan Chi. Shang Tsung never impressed me and I don't consider Shinnok a sorcerer. Even if I did, I would still think Quan Chi is better.

2- None. Tsung's run his course...although I like Quan Chi, in order for Scorpion's story to move on, he has to go...and Shinnok, I think the main boss characters should be cleared out with Armageddon.

TELEKENISIS

1) I think they are both great but I think Ermac is the better of the two.

2) Both! They are both great characters and deserve to return if there will be numerous returnees.

3) If by fusion you mean for them to merge to one character or to have some Noob/Smoke thing then god no! I would love to see Ermac's souls take over and make him completely full of multiple personality syndrome, some of his personalities are evil, some are good and therefore at times he turns on Kenshi, but Kenshi being a good friend and his student of telekenisis feels the need to save him.

SORCERER

1) Shang Tsung is the best of the sorcerers, hands down.

2) I'd like to see Shang Tsung return as his older self, powers fading, and looking for someone to replace him and fulfil his duties.

- TheKrow

Telekinesis

1) Kenshi is the best with the telekinesis powers, in my point of view. Don't get me wrong tho, Ermac is still cool.
2) I think that they both should return indeed, but I feel that only one of them will make the cut. I would want Kenshi back.
3) Me neither

Sorcerers

1) Shang Tsung is the best ever sorcerer of MK.
2) I'd want Shang to return, which I hope he will. He's the best soul stealer ever!!!

nice stuff for posting in your own topic. nothing wrong with that!

1.Ermac are the best. They have great storyline, appearance, moves, everything.
2.Just Ermac. Kenshi is really ok, but not enough to be really really great.
3.Are you fn joking? No way.

1.I love all 3 of them very much. I think that all of them are great villains. But IMO the greatest sorcerer of them all is definitely Shinnok. He just blows the other two away.

2.But despite what I said earier, all 3 of them MUST return in MK8.

Offtopic: along with scorp,subzero,erm,mileena and raiden.

I like Ermac, I really do, but I think Kenshi is the all-round better character. He just seems more original, even though it is easy to see outside influences on him. He's got the swordsman thing, the blind thing, and he was just well crafted, even though they didn't really come up with a grand story for him.

The fusion thing is a bit far-fetched, but I honestly would not mind seeing Ermac say "Hey, Kenshi, I owe you, how about I let your sword absorb me so together we can slice some motherfuckers we normally wouldn't be able to." A new personality and shared form between the two would take a lot of explaining, though.

Shang Tsung is just my favourite sorcerer. I can't describe it, but even though he is probably technically the weakest, he just has character. I love the way he seems the most regal, and sophisticated. I really hope we have not seen the absolute last of the character.

Ermac-Easily, he's just more badass, more awesome character with a much deeper and more intriguing storyline then Kenshi's ever was...besides, Ermac trained Kenshi and helped him increase his powers for Kenshi releasing him so that alone shows Ermac is more powerful and the superior Telekinetic of the two.

Quan-Chi-He's more sinister IMO, more powerful(as Vogel even said) and much older, in fact nobody even knows how old Quan is, Shang is old yes...but I have a feeling Quan-Chi is beyond old and has powers and skills that Shang doesn't have. I also feel his storyline has more potential. With Shang, his plot is old already...hates Liu kang, kisses Kahn's ass when he has to, his little errand boy, creating alliances temporarily blah, blah...I just feel it's time for Shang to go.

Best Telekinesis User: I want Kenshi to return. He was probably the best addition to MKDA and he deserves to stay in MK8.

Best Sorcerer: Quan Chi. Much more sinister and powerful than Shang Tsung.

ermac ftw.

kenshi is good too

-Casselman

That's interesting you said that about Kenshi and Ermac, I was thinking they could go with Kenshi dying in MKA and Ermac taking his soul or something. Just a thought.

As for the sorcerers, I think all three should stay in the storyline, but as for the next game, I would like to see Shinnok. I want to see his special moves on the new engine.

Ermac is the more interesting of the two. Kenshi's cool, but you just can't beat an entitiy made up of hundreds of warriors

As for Sorcerer's.....I like shang tsung. Always have, but i'm inclined to go with the crowd here. He had the chance to do his own thing after deadly alliance, but, he gets (Once Again!) tied to shao kahn through that eternal bond thing. That just kinda sucked to me for some reason....if they could find something fresh for him to do, then bring back Tsung.


If not, Quan Chi wins hands down. and i dissagree with whoever said he should return "if only so that scorpion can get his revenge" or whatever. I call major BS on that one. Hell i'd rather have quan chi come back than scorpion any day of the week. He still has huge story potential and hasn't become quite stale since he arrived later on in the story arch.


Shinnok however was stale on arrival....just my opinion.

1.) Ermac, he's the only character that should have possessed this power. No one else.

2.) Of course Ermac, if he makes a come back, I would love to see him come back as an evil character. His whole mysterious appearance made me feel, back in the day, that he was an evil character. Now seeing that he's a good guy... he needs a new attitude make-over.

3.) No, fusing the two together will lead into a character more hated than Mokap.

1.) Shang Tsung and Quan Chi imo are the best. Shang is a sorcerer, whoever says he's not, relook at him. Play as Shang Tsung in all the games that he can be playable in and then come back to me on this one. Shang Tsung is an unusual sorcerer because he doesn't possess powers like Ice, Fire, Electricity... mostly what sorcerers do possess in other games, he's a unique sorcerer in which he can morph into anyone he can think of and use their own powers against another. Not to mention he can steal souls blah blah blah. Quan Chi on the other hand is very evil. And I say that because his whole look discribes the character. He should have been the boss in MK4 not Shinnok. Shinnok was just another excuse for an "out-of-time" idea. Quan Chi is a great charcter, though a big disappointment in Deadly Alliance if you know what I mean. But still, these two characters are great.

2.) I'm stuck in the middle in deciding whether to choose Shang or Quan... I'm gonna have to go with Shang Tsung. Shang has been in the game longer than Quan Chi and well... that's the only reason I got,

CHEERS!

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OMG, get out of my head!

Everything you said there is exactly what I would have said.

I love Ermac, and I think he should be evil again, maybe go back to being one of Shao Kahn's assassins.

I like both Shang Tsung and Quan Chi. Shinnok looks like a clown, literally.

But, if I had to choose one to come back, it would have to be Shang. Simply because he's been around longer (as Sub-Frost055 wrote), and he's sorta part of MK legacy now.

Ermac definitely because Ermac defines awesome. He's great to use in games, looks sick, cool storyline, its all there.

Shang because he was the boss in the first game >.<

Well Telekinesis wise I love both the characters I think there both
awesome. But if I had to choose one it would be Ermac, because I think
he looks cooler, and I just prefer the character. I think Ermac might be
in MK8 personally. but who knows

Ermm for the Sorcerer I like all three
but Shang Tsung has been used alot now so he shouldnt
return for MK8, and for Scorpion's sake Quan Chi should go to,
as for Shinnok, I really like the new design he had in MKA, so I
think maybe Shinnok should be the new sorcerer for MK8 and if
he doesnt really work out then bring back Shang or Quan

1) I'd say Ermac, because he still is a supernatural being, to his purely soul-based powers telekinesis is a piece of cake, while Kenshi presumably needs to put a much larger effort and, in the long run, doesn't master it as fluently as his magical counterpart.

2) To me, it's more likely Kenshi will return, he hasn't been as explored as Ermac and it's always more breathtaking to hurl some weird spell via human fighter, just like Sindel's fire breath is more 'captivating' than the one of Scorpion or Kintaro.

3) No. Just, don't make unnecessary hash .


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1) Again, this has never been an easy competition, especially for me who have been favorizing that trio ever since I saw them fight. Shang Tsung, the only human out of the three, is, as explained above, more charming sorcerer right because he uses his possibilities of a mortal, with all his weaknesses and limits, to pursue an endless sphere of occult and supernatural. We presume Quan Chi, as a demon, must have a way larger knowledge-span, or at least aura, and therefore finds it easier to use spells; not to write about Shinnok, who definitely has the greatest talent for magic - it's a most common and innate thing to him. As for the impession they left, perhaps it was Shang Tsung. The range of his abilities, compared to that of Quan Chi and Shinnok, is just amazing: he can

1) throw six fireballs at a time
2) shapeshift into whichever character
3) summon fireballs from ground
4) do that teleport thing from MKA
5) relentlessly fight the Earth realm's champion, always readier and stronger than before
6) summon spikes from the ground
7) take souls

Quan Chi can:

1) telestomp
2) throw a green skull
3) be an efficient trickster
4) make contracts with Elder Gods
5) do a rising star (as in MKDA)
6) stay in his non-native human form for eons.
7) (I reluctantly granted the seventh one) steal the opponent's weapon (as in MK4).

Shinnok, our poor Shinnok... can:

1) fight the gods (duh, he is an Elder God himself)
2) immitate (any good enough theatre actor could master that one)
3) do funny things with skeleton hands.

So, starting from the poorest: Shinnok has 3 known good features and hasn't used the potential almost at all. Quan Chi is here and there, he more fascinates with his storyline than with his move-span, I would definitely more like him if I saw him playable in the real actor-based MK games since that was where all the favourite characters mainly started their sagas. Shang Tsung has the WIDEST and, probably, the best known ability-span, his soul-taking is his attribute, but a clicheic prototype of a faustoid / merlinoid / jafaroid sorcerer won't quite fit now in 2008, when probably some brand new mage must clear his way to save the game's originality; besides, as someone already mentioned, Tsung has had his run. He is my favorite character, no doubt in that, but wearing him out longer than this would be same kind of bore and unoriginality as if Liu Kang would continue to be the champion. Tsung belongs to the good, old past.


2) Therefore, ANYONE may return in 2008 as long as he has changed his personality and storyline. They have all become stale and whoever returns same as he was in MKA, he won't be appealing to me...


But, this is all my personal judgement.

Shang can throw 3 after another in the old games, he never threw 6 at a time man lol.

In the newer games he can toss like a few "tracking fireballs at once" but that's 2 if you watch the move.

I know his playable version can't, but he could throw maximum of 6 in MK1. It's just a pity he couldn't retain it later

Ohh, you're talking about the "broken MK1" Shang Tsung when he was a boss, when the CP is cheesy "they can break the game" happens all the time in fighting games.

Notice though, they fixed that when he became playable since MK2+on with 3 max. I thought you meant actual gameplay(with a player using him)

Ermac should definitely return over Kenshi and he is fr superior. He is the master and Kenshi is the apprentice and their gameplay and the way they use their moves in game showcase this. Ermacs story is more interesting, imo. I loved the new direction they made for him in MKD and it would have been nice to see where that would have taken him. I feel he has more of a future in MK and far more potential than Kenshi. A fusion of the two is a terrible idea. I'll say no to that one.
As for the sorcerers, Quan Chi is the best one. (I don't view Shinnok as one. He's a god!) He is also the one I'd want back but his return means Scorpion's return and the continuation of Scorpions' rubbish story so Quan would need to go. Quan Chi has been responsible for much of the MK stories bigger storylines and he's just an all round cool villain. Shang, though great, has had his time and I feel there's only so much they can do with him before he falls into the same path as characters like Sonya and Scorpion with a repetitive story.

Telekinesis: I would have to say Ermac, I hate Kenshi... Ermac has so much more potential. "we are many"

Sorcerer: Shang is my fav character, evil incarnate, but I would like to fight with him in his demonic form... and I want them to bring his morph ability back. I hate the MKDA, MKD and MKA version of Shang. They made him weak! Shinok is also cool but for a fallen Elder God he is'nt very evil at all, I would like to see a more darker, more evil version of the Neatherrealm God.

Shang can have a new ability where he can send one of his captured souls to attack his enemy, and they must bring his Volcanic Eruption move back.

"Your soul is mine"

Demonic form? Where has this been? Shang Tsung can somehow make himself a demon? That has yet to appear in a MK game.

CHEERS!

Ermac gets the nod over Kenshi, but I think packaging Kenshi with a new story and having him return as well is a good idea. Kenshi can slash with his sword, that way Ermac can slash with his mind. It all works out.

As for the dark arts character to return, Quan Chi probably has a slightly better shot at a comeback than Shang Tsung, but I don't think either's chances are good and I really don't want to see them back at all. It's time to develop a new evil.

Short and sweet:

Telekenesis: Kenshi.

Sorcerer: Shang Tsung


Side Notes: I just think that Kenshi is a more rounded character... I think having a character like Ermac who is an amalgamation of souls kind of convolutes himself. Dont get me wrong I think hes an awesome character but I just think Kenshi can be a more developed solid character.. and with MK8 Im hoping all the characters are more developed and have a purpose besides just filling the game. Kenshi has room to expand his story and has room for developement.

As far as why Shang Tsung, He is the quentisential MK Bad guy. Whatever sinister thing is going down in the MK Universe, Shang is always involved... which makes sense for his return... HOWEVER, I think he needs an Overhaul. Visually I didnt like his look of the last few games... I like his basic mk2 and 3 outfits... BUT.. like I said an overhaul would be nice.. I want to see him in his demonic form. Visually that would be interesting and could also make for an interesting story arc for him..