Yayo,I have nothing against you.Play how you want and as cheap as you want;honor has no place in fighting games when it's all about winning.However,when you start getting into how much skill you have with BRC,then we reach a disagreement.You can teach monkeys how to do f+3 followed by a throw,but they can't take advantage of mind games;you can,however.
You want respect?.Earn it.Don't talk shit online when you beat me or request it here when the majority here doesn't even like you.Seriously though,good luck getting respect by playing BRC or any other broken ass character in MK:D.
BRC is a broken character.Can anyone (even you) deny it and prove it with proper evidence that someone is more broken than him?Dude,we haven't played in a while,but what was the last result (16:4 favoring you as far as I remember).I know every character's BS in the whole shitty game and I still lose this way.I guess this makes me some kind of noob,right?

1TrueKing
u miss the point
u want to play with who the cheeser !!!... tell me it's fun to play with someone who sweep 5 time in a row (dodge or not) grab 5 time in a row (duck or not)
the cheater, u wuant to play with someone who u have (death trap only) no way u can beat them
the care about rank so they perform all the above WOW
u can care about ure rank w/o do all this !
the puller who are so frustrated to lose that they diss u in the chat where is the fun
imagine when tampa bay wins against vancouver, they are so frustrated they shutdown the lights and everyone out were closing
the glitcher, the one who perform the combo where they a sure to win where is the fun
remember where was the fun when (in F1) ferrari use unfair technologies to win .. yeah they win all but what was the fun
when u play monopoly and some cheater cheat to win (steal cash or trick dice) where is the fun ???? tell me TELL ME !!!!!!!!!
did u ever play with ure friends in the arcade at fighting games, remember what were u saying when ure friend perform some of the above ???
dont tell me its fair its part of the game ... F**k Off
u were saying something like ([Edited by Mod] ....)
btw try to tell me in 10 to 20 lines only ...

I'm sorry I take the time to make a well thought out post and often use more than 20 lines to make sure all my points are made.
Ok lets bring up the puller issue. Did I mention pullers in my response? no I didn't so why do you bring it up. I don't see the point of people who pull and couldn't care less. Did I mention people who use things like gameshark and use cheat codes hyper mode no damage etc... Again no.
The glitcher I did address. You are talking about infinite combos glitch combos and the like. I spoke at length about that. I personally have no problem with it and think it's fun. The fact is it makes me a better player. I've been hit by armor kings glitch one time EVER I'm a better player against armor king because I know I MUST avoid the set ups for this move normally I wouldn't be so dilligent in that process. People on mvc 1 who used infinites made me a better player. I learned to block better and avoid getting hit by the infinites or glitch combos or high damage combos. I learned to combat people who took advantage of the chip damage with a level 3 duo team. It was fun for me I got better and never had an issue with that.
You can't argue what I said so you resort to telling me to fuck off. Really making a case for your side on that one. You are the one in the room b that doesn't dissrespect people right? News for you telling me to fuck off qualifys as a diss. Now as for your question of what I do when my friends use glitches infinites or the same move over and over. I have no issue with it honestly. I would throw them back or use the strat back on them to see what they did against it. In the end it would help both of us come up with ways around it. I never told them to fuck off or cried that they were cheap or it wasn't fun. The fact that I was now able to get around this "cheap" tactic made the game even more enjoyable to me. Let me give you an example. I used to play at a local arcade where I'm originally from. At one point when marvel vs capcom was popular a guy came in from another city and dominated the people there badly. He talked trash about how bad they sucked and despite me being so cheap and playing to win every single person there all wished I was there to beat the guy. Next time I came in all I heard was how this guy was talking trash eventually I got a chance to play him a few months later. The match drew quite a crowd I gave the guy the zangief scrub test and he never managed to beat zangief so he didn't even get to see one of my real teams. It's funny though that despite me playing to win everybody wanted me there to beat this guy. Another story along these lines. I quit playing games for awhile and the rest of the people in my area started to travel and go to tournaments. When they started to do this all the people who had an issue with me for playing to win ALL asked me to come out of retirement to play because they all knew with me playing they would improve and they would learn to combat the "cheap" tactics they were exposed to in real play.
Now before you respond please actually read this post instead of skimming it like you did the last one and we can avoid me having to rehash the same things and address things I actually agree with you on. The fact is the cheap players(cheap =\= gameshark etc...) make you a better player if you are willing to let go of your preconceived notions of, lol, honor in a fighting game. I mean seriously though we are talking honor when some characters have had guns nut punches and unblockable attacks real honorable games here lol.
Now don't jump on yayo for calling people cheap when he hasn't. From his posts he is saying there is no such thing as cheap, with exception of people using gameshark etc... if its in the game use it. Maybe his attitude could be better though but so much trash talking on his side and others I don't really want to take sides.

m2dave omg man, do you have selective hearing?? i have said in the past, i have skill in reading my opponent. what do you not understand??
yes you are right, i am not going to get respect from a bunch of scrubs who think i am "cheap" because i play to win. i give up on asking for respect from you noobs. when i get my ps2 back i will beat some respect outta all yall haters. most of yall cant grasp the concept of playing to win anyways so it'll be impossible me to gain respect from you guys. m2dave why do you always complain and complain?? MKD is suppose to be a competitive game. most of yall are playing by some gay made-up rules. "no throws", "dont do same move over and over", yes you are a scrub and a noob. scrub because you are one of those ppl who play by those made up rules. and noob because you sometimes play to win but you end up losing anyways. you are borderline. you my friend will never fully understand the real purpose in any fighting game.

Refrain from calling other users "Scrubs and noobs". -RedScorpio

yeah i talk alot of trash, its only because these scrubs made me this way lol. im a very competitive person. i will always be this way i cant help it.
John-Pb your arguments aren't even good. you dont make any good solid points. everything you have said has not made any sense to me. in the other corner we have 1TruKing, he truly understands the concept of playing to win. this guy has made some really good points but you, john-pb, have selective hearing. the shit hes feeding you goes in one ear and out the other, you really need to take your time and actually understand what he is trying to tell you before you go and post ur response.

What the fuck are you talking about?I've never even said those things.I play fighting games competitively and I know what I need to do and what requires skill.You apperantly don't know:
there are many ways to get pass cloud man not just up+circle. and when you go on about Tekken and VF taking skills and shit its like you're obsessed with those 2 series. dude you need to read the article "Play to Win", then will you see button-mashing takes ZERO SKILL. you are a scrub for thinking button-mashing games take skills, done deal.
This is what you PM'ed me.You and I have been discussing this over 3 days now over the PM system.
Everybody who knows how playable Tekken and VF are will think that you're a joke.And you are one.You DO NOT know what skill is,dude.True skill lies within these fighters,not playing a 50/50 mix up game and "reading the opponent" and calling yourself skillful.Reading the opponent is not a skill;it's recognizing the patterns of the opponent.
And you're exactly a product of MK games -- an above average player who thinks what he does is skill,but calling the world's most balanced and playable fighters button-mashers.
People,ignore him.Seriously,I thought you knew something at least,but this certainly places you as an ingorant scrub who knows how to play the game's broken character.Don't waste my time,man,and call me when Boon decides to put in throw escapes,add a wake-up game,and make the game deeper so it's not so limited.

you m2dave are the ignorant one, you aren't listening to what i am telling you. we are talking about MKD and MKD alone. why the hell do you keep bringing up all these other games. dont even compare MKD with any other game when we are solely discussing MKD. like i said in IMs, when you learn to not be stubborn and thick-headed and quit comparing MKD with any other games then talk.
skill: Proficiency, facility, or dexterity that is acquired or developed through training or experience.
so when you tell me reading my opponent, being able to counter his moves and being able to predict his next move is not a skill, you are the scrub. im starting to believe you dont even know the meaning of skill.
by saying bo 2 moves is cheap you are implying that i should stop doing same move over and over.
im an ignorant scrub because i play to win?? because i take advantage of "broken" characters?? that is exactly the opposite of what a scrub is. a scrub believes taking advantage of "broken" characters is "cheap" and "dishonorable". i take advantage of whats handed infront of me because i know the outcome of the match only has only 2 sides, a winner and a loser.

First off, let's get one thing straight, there's no honour in fighting games. Before you play your friends do you do an hourable bow in their presence? Nah, you usually talk as muh shit as you can to get in their head.
Now, I don't see how Yayo is being scrubby. He is playing the game, and is winning. If anything you should be the scrubs. So he exploits a few moves? Like you don't? Cut the bullshit, if you had the chance to beat Bruce-Lee, would you do it with your hands, or a gun?
It's in the game, it is fair. He doesn't exploit a cheat device. And as he said earlier, theres always a way to get around things. Here's a tip; don't get hit. Or here's another; try on going offense. Don't go crying around on message boards weeping how you lost to somebody such as Yayo and then have the decency to call him a scrub. You come off as a total moron that is acting more childish than somebody mature. Mature people would just take the loss and try again next time, hell have some more rounds with this "scrub" to try and evade his tactics. Just think logically. In the time that you spent typing a hate letter on a message board to this 'cheater' you could have beaten him and felt a sense of accomplishment.
So in my eyes, you guys have no real argument but "Waaah-waaah I lost" stop being a pussy and fight again.
That's just my 25 cents.

so when you tell me reading my opponent, being able to counter his moves and being able to predict his next move is not a skill, you are the scrub. im starting to believe you dont even know the meaning of skill.
by saying bo 2 moves is cheap you are implying that i should stop doing same move over and over.
im an ignorant scrub because i play to win?? because i take advantage of "broken" characters?? that is exactly the opposite of what a scrub is. a scrub believes taking advantage of "broken" characters is "cheap" and "dishonorable". i take advantage of whats handed infront of me because i know the outcome of the match only has only 2 sides, a winner and a loser.
-Prediction is NOT skill.How the fuck are you going to know what's coming after Darrius' d,f+3.A throw or 3?Tell me what kind of super natural powers you have so I can predict it as well and beat high level BRC's online.Countering with BRC is a piece of cake.Against me all you did was f+3 anyway and puked throughout the whole match.I was sometimes 1/3 screen away and f+3 still hit me followed up by a throw or another f+3 for a 50/50 mix up.
-Seriously,how you come up with some shit I simply can't understand.How many times have I told you play to win?I don't care how you play with BRC or anybody else for that matter.
-Your last paragraph was not really an argument.You're a scrub because:
1.You think BRC requires some sort of skill to play
2.You think Tekken/VF a button-mashers which shows everybody how much you're familiar with other better fighters than this one
3.You think I'm a scrub for calling BRC cheap.Cheap for me is another word for over-powered.You think BRC isn't over-powered?

i agree with yayo that good players should do everything to win ( cheating out of question ) and you cannot call a player lowskilled cause he uses moves the game offers, you can call it abuse but its a problem of the game you cannot judge a player for playing just the game as effectively as he can

The people in his topic need to calm down and use less of the 'scrub' and 'noob' terms. And also, stop the minor flaming in the posts. If it continues this thread will be closed.

i understand what u write about
my point is FOR ME i dont want to play with those kind of guy
your point is u want to play them it make u better and u like that !
thats ok for me we have our own opinion and i respect that

i just noticed this thread. yayo come on u know u pull.. u pulled on my kit-sin name twice before.....
please tell me u r spic or kameltoe.. if u r we have to talk.. u crack me up!! i killed ur bo rai cho w/ my tanya cheese like 4 x's using my name COCKROD if these and other names r ur's could u please
STOP PULLING
thank u, i just had to get that out of my system..

ok maybe i do take winning a lil outta hand. yes i do like to brag and talk trash but its only because i have been given a bad rep for using bo and its all in the spirit of competitive fighting. V-LAD like that time after we had our matches you had the nerves to say all i do is use bo and do F+3>R1 that is when i started talking trash to you and it hasnt ended since.
-YAYO-
POON
RAKAMAN
those are the only ids i have. come to think of it, RAKAMAN vs COCKROD happened once and i killed your tanya using bo. you do tha drill kick and grab routine. pretty good. you came close to killing me thats why i took my 1-0 and ran lol.

dan, spic and kameltow are both MOE81

SMH nope so sorry im neither try no-skilz or even bora1ch0 but not spic or that kamel name so get ya head right.....

ah yes i was gonna say ur name RAKAMAN
did beat me..i was so pissed when u ran.. do u, atleast w/ 1 of ur names not run???

nah, ive played SPIC and KAMELTOE and i know for a fact that they are not MOE81.
lol i run to go study a character. my ps2 is gone right now so when i get it back ill play you again dana.

you came close to killing me thats why i took my 1-0 and ran lol.
And once again, I hate when people go online and do that. They beat someone ONCE and then run...is it because they can be beat? I think so and the reason I say that is because I've come across people who barely beat me MANY times and then they run. They run, go into chat, say "haha, I beat you!" and then deny your attempts to challenge them for another game. They know they can be beat and they don't bother trying to face you again, and if they did face you they could get beat and they usually pull if they do.
One game to none? IMO, thats hardly proving your ground in a fighting game.

Just for the nonbelievers within a few days i will post a movie of me doing all of the combo, and someone ducking it proving it can be ducked... lol it will be posted on my website for all to see (mainly yayo) but i hate cheesers and if i knew it was chz i wouldnt do it.

DeadMan90, i "ran" because my bro needed the net and we only have 1 cord that switches from ps2 to the pc. thats when i went to practice mode and tried using tanya. i usually play 5 games before i leave. who cares if someone plays 1 game? theres a full room of other players to play with. its like ur saying there is a 2 game minimum policy when u tell me u hate people who leave after 1 game. if it bothers you that much ill find you online and beat you once and leave.
and CRKFIEND go for it.

ok i will hav to get involved since im a brc player on xbox. now i agree and disagree with all of u. first yayo if u are doing f3 throw, b1 cs 12 cs 3 cs, u are a scrub, u cant block... now i use bo, and he is slow getting up, so people use " characters that throw walk up throw , walk up throw, now if they are allowed to do that, than why cant i f3, throw throw f3 cs 1 2 cs 3 cs?? bo has a week spot yes, but there are like 4 characters that can exploit that... my complaint is u can break the f3, so say the upward staff of f3 hits u, if u choose to not break the down ward motion, knowing there is a throw coming after, thats your prob not mine, the fact that u hav 3 breakers, ur prob not mine, please shinjinkon has stupid damage off his throws, which u hav to use breakers, yet thats ok, n/s 3 infinites but thats ok, i hav had plenty people beat brc, never 2 times in arow, but hav beaten him, most of the times its usually with 6 throws in a row aka, mileena, scorp, sub, but when u beat brc that way, i no that ok cause he has f3... so when u resort to thsoe tatics u lose all ability to ever bitch about brc...and if u disagree u are wrong, this is not 2d anymore.. its the new era of mk, deal with it,,, cause mk4 had a 50% damage combo with every character that 85% of u prob never knew,,,all mk ganes are broken since mk1 so why bitch so much about this one... ??????????????

if it bothers you that much ill find you online and beat you once and leave.
Then don't bother trying to face me. I'm sick of it because I have to find another opponent after I would like to at least play for a little while. I don't like playing just once because the other person not playing anymore complains because they got beat or brag because they beat me after one game. It tends to get irritating. Trust me, I beat you quite a few times on your other aliases anyway, but you also got your fair share as well, I won't deny it. When you pull though, it sucks.
Word to the wise though Yayo, I wouldn't say "I only pull on those who pull on me" because I have 2 disconnects...one was when my DSL was acting up the first night I got my network adapter and the second time was a month ago against a gamesharker who used a "no hit" Joker command code when he was about to be beat. It was the only time I got irritated bad enough to go and quit, so save the bullcrap and give it up.

redsaleen02, by doing F+3>R1>1, 2, CS, 2 that does not make me a "scrub". it makes me a tough competitor. you redsaleen do not know the meaning of "scrub". there is a whole section that explains what a "scrub" is at http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm. so if you want to continue using the term "scrub", please have the decency to know what it means.

DeadMan90, i dont believe i have played you before. if you dislike how people play one game and leave then brag/complain about the result then why are you doing the same? you are the one complaining about the people who play 1 game therefore you deserve only 1 game.