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Clones, clones, clones, nothing but clones!! What's up with that?
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posted09/10/2004 10:31 AM (UTC)by
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mkfan416
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Ashrah - has Kitana's ba gua fighting style, and her special moves seem to be a combination of Raiden, Kung Lao, Kai. Energy spin, similar to Kung Lao's whirlwind spin, her flying spin is kind of like Raiden's, and she throws energy bolts in the air which then fall on the opponent similar to Kai's upward fireball.
Dariou - has the fighting styles of Mavado and Quan Chi, wing chun and escrima.
Kobra - has Sonya's weapon, kali sticks, they do seem to fit him better than Sonya, but still Sonya had them first. They should at least give him different moves than Sonya. One of his other fighting styles, i think his kickboxing, also seems to have moves from Johnny Cage's karate style.
Darius - seems to be the most original new character, but still too cloned. He has Nitara's leopard fighting style and one of his special moves is similar to Sub-Zero's dash punch. I'm not sure but I think I've also seen him do Cyrax's spin kick, it was either him or Havik.
Shujinko - the most cloned up character. He will have whatever moves you give him.
Hotaru - has Scorpion's pi gua fighting style, and I think his multi-slam fatality would fit Jax better. There have been rumors of Jax in the game so if his in the fatality should go to him instead. Jax should also get Scorpion's arm rip fatality as well.
Havik - has Shang Tsung's and Quan Chi's fighting styles, crane and tang soo do.
Kira - the hybrid of Kano and Sonya. She has Kano and Sonya's fighting styles and special moves.
All the new characters are cool so far, I actually like some of the new ones better than the originals. I just wish they made them 100% original. There are millions of fighting styles, someone posted a topic about them, so there really should be no excuse to reuse styles of other characters. What does everyone else think?
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 •09/09/2004 09:55 PM (UTC) •
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They are not toal clones especially Ashra yout hink they could get allll these fighting styles noo they have to share and Ashra has NOTHING to do with kung lao or raiden she just has a couple moves big whoop
ill post my t houghts ont he rest another time just gotta defend ashra first
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 •09/09/2004 09:56 PM (UTC) •
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a fighting style is used by many people all over the world. if you take wing chun and so those another guy, does that make him a clone lol. just cause someone eles have the same style doesn't make them a clone, they mostly have new moves.
a fighting style can be taught to anyone.
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kaishaku
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 •09/09/2004 09:58 PM (UTC) •
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who gives a shit.. you already know how to use those styles be happy
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Siduu101
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 •09/09/2004 10:00 PM (UTC) •
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Clone threads,clone threads,clone thread,ain't nothing but clone frigging threads at this site.
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Sub-ZeroMasta
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 •09/09/2004 10:02 PM (UTC) •
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Whoa.
That was actually funny Siduu, good job.
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ErmacMk5
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 •09/09/2004 10:02 PM (UTC) •
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This is the best cast of characters since MK2, and I'm so tired of hearing people bitch about it. Ashrah is not a clone. She borrows moves, but she will play SO much differently than any of those characters, that it doesn't matter.
Kira's a clone. Big fucking whoop. You also bitch when a character breaks from the set rules of what an MK character should be.
So if you hate change, but you hate things staying the same, why don't you quit playing Mortal Kombat, and even better, quit ruining this board with your uninspired drivel?
Thank you.
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DMitch
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 •09/09/2004 10:03 PM (UTC) •
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I can show you more than one person who knows karate, judo, kung fu, etc...
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 •09/09/2004 10:06 PM (UTC) •
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Siduu101 Wrote:
Clone threads,clone threads,clone thread,ain't nothing but clone frigging threads at this site.

Exactly what I was about to say.Damn you Siduu!Im just kidding your alright.
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 •09/09/2004 10:29 PM (UTC) •
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DMitch Wrote:
I can show you more than one person who knows karate, judo, kung fu, etc...

exactly man i mean cmon people at least these characters dont have the EXACT same fighting styles...heck at least they have 3...tekken characters only have 1 thats why it gets boring so quickly hahaha
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 •09/09/2004 10:34 PM (UTC) •
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There are no clones in Mortal Kombat. Well, except Mileena.
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 •09/09/2004 10:48 PM (UTC) •
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Ashrah is NOT a clone of Raiden, simply because Ashrah is a woman & Raiden is a man. grin and clones are supposed to be identical according to the defenition of "CLONE". tongue grin
Clone:(pron. Klon ) (n) an individual grown from a single somatic cell of its parent and genetically IDENTICAL to it.
Saying all this words in this defenition makes me feel smart! lol grin grin grin grin
anyway so my point is that just because they LOOK similar, have SAME fighting style doesn't make them clones.

mkfan416 Wrote:
Ashrah - has Kitana's ba gua fighting style, and her special moves seem to be a combination of Raiden, Kung Lao, Kai. Energy spin, similar to Kung Lao's whirlwind spin, her flying spin is kind of like Raiden's, and she throws energy bolts in the air which then fall on the opponent similar to Kai's upward fireball.
Dariou - has the fighting styles of Mavado and Quan Chi, wing chun and escrima.
Kobra - has Sonya's weapon, kali sticks, they do seem to fit him better than Sonya, but still Sonya had them first. They should at least give him different moves than Sonya. One of his other fighting styles, i think his kickboxing, also seems to have moves from Johnny Cage's karate style.
Darius - seems to be the most original new character, but still too cloned. He has Nitara's leopard fighting style and one of his special moves is similar to Sub-Zero's dash punch. I'm not sure but I think I've also seen him do Cyrax's spin kick, it was either him or Havik.
Shujinko - the most cloned up character. He will have whatever moves you give him.
Hotaru - has Scorpion's pi gua fighting style, and I think his multi-slam fatality would fit Jax better. There have been rumors of Jax in the game so if his in the fatality should go to him instead. Jax should also get Scorpion's arm rip fatality as well.
Havik - has Shang Tsung's and Quan Chi's fighting styles, crane and tang soo do.
Kira - the hybrid of Kano and Sonya. She has Kano and Sonya's fighting styles and special moves.
All the new characters are cool so far, I actually like some of the new ones better than the originals. I just wish they made them 100% original. There are millions of fighting styles, someone posted a topic about them, so there really should be no excuse to reuse styles of other characters. What does everyone else think?

GO HOME!
For a video game, copy and paste bugs me too.
I think it's totally avoidable, I mean why are you going to give a move to another fighter when there is already another fighter that has it.
They should come up with totally new stuff, or at least change the move some so it doesn't look like copy and paste.
It's no big deal, but I still don't think it should be done. Unless there is a good reason for it story related.
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 •09/10/2004 01:26 AM (UTC) •
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like he said ^^^ go home
Copy and paste = lack of creativity, slacking, cheap, bad idea.
That's the truth.
I can't do anything about it as far as MKD goes, but it's something to keep in mind for the next MK.
No more copy and paste please!
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 •09/10/2004 01:50 AM (UTC) •
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Yeah, clones.... OH WAIT! I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. This game is going to rule, even if they do barrow certain moves from others. Like many others have said, more than one person uses the same fighting style.
-Fuj
Personally, I don't care if 2 fighters use the same style...... on one condition.
They must be different interpretations of the same style.
Have different combos, throws etc.
Like Baek and Whoarong in Tekken tag. The same style but totally different.
Or even Heihachi and Kazuya, they have a lot of the same moves, but there is also a big difference between them.
It's mainly the special moves that are the problem.
If 2 characters have the same exact fighting style with the same combos and everything, then that's unacceptable. IMO
It's a video game, there is a small number of fighters and having multiple characters that are made by copy and paste, IMO it's kind of a waste of a fighter IMO.
In real life you have millions of people, in a game you have like 30.
There needs to be variety.
If I see 2 fighters with the same moves, in my mind I think....man....what a jip.
I won't have a tantrum over it, but it's like ugh....what a let down.
I'm expecting this awesome bran new fighter, and what do I get, a copy of an old one. sad confused
Now don't get me wrong, I'll still love the game and play it all the time. I just think it's not perfect. More thought could or should have been put in to it. That's all.
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 •09/10/2004 02:39 AM (UTC) •
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Shut Up...
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 •09/10/2004 02:40 AM (UTC) •
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Bezou Wrote:
There are no clones in Mortal Kombat. Well, except Mileena.

LMAO.. too funny

BringBackReptile Wrote:
Shut Up...

Grow up...
This is a free country and I'm entitled to my opinion.
Don't you ever dare to tell me to shut up again.
I'll only say this once, I won't waste my time on a stupid argument.
You respect me and I'll respect you back.
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 •09/10/2004 03:42 AM (UTC) •
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Bleed this in not directed solely at you and as always you are a great poster, even if we disagree about some things.
This is directed at everyone however who has decided to write Kira off as a clone.
I have watched her vid again and found 3 differences from Kano/Sonya movesets in MKDA.
1. At 1:09 on the movie Kira begins a series of 3 x pink projectiles. She bends on one knee and fires the pink ball. Obviously this is a low projectile. This could be put to use against predominately high attacks.
2. At 1:22 she clearly has a a unique throw, never seen in use from either Kano or Sonya.
3. Whilst in "Dragon Teeth" at 1:32 (weapon stance - cool name by the way), she use a quick 1-2 kick combo. I don't believe Kano had this with his knives.
I think Kira will be one of the best characters in MK Deception.
Yeah, she probably will be one of the strong ones.
That's awesome that she has those original moves.
If she's in MK7, I think they should add more original stuff like that and take some of the Kano and Sonia stuff out.
But yeah, those new attacks you pointed out are what impress me, or make me like the character more.
I'd appreciate the game more if I saw a lot more of that. smile
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By the way, you don't have to be careful about how you talk to me.
As long as you don't insult me personally, it's all good.
If you disagree with my opinion, I'll respect you for it. And I'll just explain my views again If I feel the need to do so.
It's all about respect. wink
Anyway, I'm off to see the Kira videos again. I wanna see those moves you are talking about more closely.
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 •09/10/2004 04:05 AM (UTC) •
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Heres a new crackpot theory i just made up for everyone to think about. Maybe after the explosion from onaga that seemed to destroy rayden and quan chi and shang tsung, Rayden didn't fuse with quan and shung. Quan and Shung fused into the deformed figure you see before you known as havik.
Shang tsung and Quan chi is havik! what will they come up with next, bottled water. Hahahahaha
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