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posted08/01/2004 06:08 AM (UTC)by
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Hey, i just watched a old Boon interview that i think i seen ages ago it could of been the first vid interview.Its from ugo you can go to windows media player and type mortal kombat deception and it should be the first vid i forgot about this.Anyways dont be suprised if the gameplay isnt fixxed and is slow the only thing boon changed for the fighting system is those combo breaker things.Boon says in the video he doesnt want people to think mk is a fighting game he wants people to think its a rpg and puzzle game.So my point is he is focusing on that and is leaving the gameplay mostly the same.This is typical just dont get your hopes up for a faster fighting engine. From the fighting vids we saw they look pretty much identical. I dont mean to sound so negative but this is what is happening.
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 •07/29/2004 07:13 PM (UTC) •
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After seeing raiden fight,I can't believe you still think the gameplay is slow.
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....Checkmate....

•07/29/2004 07:16 PM (UTC) •
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I have to agree with Siduu101, the gameplay has improved from MK:DA.
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....Checkmate....

•07/29/2004 07:15 PM (UTC) •
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I have to agree with Siduu101, the gameplay has improved from MK:DA.
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 •07/29/2004 07:25 PM (UTC) •
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The Siduu dude is right... the gameplay is faster and different from MK:DA
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 •07/29/2004 07:28 PM (UTC) •
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I'm sorry, but that is the stupidest thing I heard all day.

Use some common sense when thinking man.

Video you just remembered is old
Videos with fast fighting are new

Put two and two together.
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 •07/29/2004 07:34 PM (UTC) •
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So far, every site that has tested MKD has stated the that the gameplay is much faster/smoother this time around. That should already signify that there is a lot of effort being put into all aspects of the game.

They've also revived the old-school manuevers such as the uppercut and roundhouse as standarized moves that all characters can use. The player is no longer limited to or forced to use his/her fighting styles.

And finally, there far more gameplay influences in the stages, with deathtraps, breakthroughs into other levels of the stage, backround weapons, and hazards. This adds a completely new dimension to the game.

Like I've said previously, the gameplay has been drastically improved, but few will be satisfied. When people are saying "The gameplay sucks," what they're really saying is "I'm mad because the game doesn't play and feel exactly like Tekken."
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 •07/29/2004 07:39 PM (UTC) •
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Don't forget they improved the jumping mechanic. Raiden pulls some nice aerial links to his Nan Chuan combos against BRaks
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 •07/29/2004 07:45 PM (UTC) •
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TemperaryUserName wrote: "When people are saying "The gameplay sucks," what they're really saying is "I'm mad because the game doesn't play and feel exactly like Tekken."."

I agree with you, temporary dude, MK is not supposed to be Tekken and the gameplay IS better than DA
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 •07/29/2004 07:45 PM (UTC) •
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Wow... Really?
In an interview I saw with boon he said:P
He improved speed, junmps AND added old moves!!!! (uppercu and sweep are seen in the video)

IDK where it was from, some lady with big curly hair was intervewing him in front of a big screen. I think it was Gamespot
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 •07/29/2004 07:46 PM (UTC) •
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Well i guess we all wouldnt know until we all play it but seriously it looks the same.My biggest gripe is Boons obession with rpgs and chess whatever happen to mk the fighting game.MKD would be so much more if it was more focused on fighting then the mini games.
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 •07/29/2004 07:46 PM (UTC) •
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:

Like I've said previously, the gameplay has been drastically improved, but few will be satisfied. When people are saying "The gameplay sucks," what they're really saying is "I'm mad because the game doesn't play and feel exactly like Tekken."


That's the minority, the majority of people who don't feel the gameplay is what it could be are actually thinking "I'm mad because MK is supposed to be a fighting game but the fighting aspect isn't that good and instead of making it better a priority, they're making new modes that have nothing to do with the storyline or main mode."
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 •07/29/2004 07:49 PM (UTC) •
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By the way i hate tekken.And soul calibur all im asking is for the game to be a little faster i would really like it if they brought back the run button.
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 •07/29/2004 07:51 PM (UTC) •
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psyclobex Wrote:
Well i guess we all wouldnt know until we all play it but seriously it looks the same.My biggest gripe is Boons obession with rpgs and chess whatever happen to mk the fighting game.MKD would be so much more if it was more focused on fighting then the mini games.


Seriously, you need to get your eyes checked or something. There is no way in hell it looks the same, it may not be up to your standard, but it's definitely not the same.

Anyone with any common sense can seen it's faster.
I'm not saying the engine changed that much, but it's faster without a doubt. Plus it has many little things added/tweaked.
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 •07/29/2004 07:57 PM (UTC) •
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Like I've said previously, the gameplay has been drastically improved, but few will be satisfied. When people are saying "The gameplay sucks," what they're really saying is "I'm mad because the game doesn't play and feel exactly like Tekken."


The DA gameplay is much closer to tekken than any MK! that's y it sucked for some. also, ucould barely jump, like in Soul Calibur, and it was slow like tekken.
Tekken is about technique and particular moves, while the 2d MK where about speed and special moves (and jumping all over the screen).
That's y im happy with the D gameplay, it's swift, agile, and has uppercuts and others back
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 •07/29/2004 07:57 PM (UTC) •
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Like I've said previously, the gameplay has been drastically improved, but few will be satisfied. When people are saying "The gameplay sucks," what they're really saying is "I'm mad because the game doesn't play and feel exactly like Tekken."


The DA gameplay is much closer to tekken than any MK! that's y it sucked for some. also, ucould barely jump, like in Soul Calibur, and it was slow like tekken.
Tekken is about technique and particular moves, while the 2d MK where about speed and special moves (and jumping all over the screen).
That's y im happy with the D gameplay, it's swift, agile, and has uppercuts and others back
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 •07/29/2004 08:06 PM (UTC) •
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FLSTYLE Wrote:
That's the minority, the majority of people who don't feel the gameplay is what it could be are actually thinking "I'm mad because MK is supposed to be a fighting game but the fighting aspect isn't that good and instead of making it better a priority, they're making new modes that have nothing to do with the storyline or main mode."

If the gameplay was suffering because of the effort being focused into the rpg/puzzle modes, I'd concur.

But from what I can see, the gameplay has been strongly upgraded. If they can do a good job on both, then what's the problem?
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 •07/29/2004 08:34 PM (UTC) •
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Boo to this idea. Run button was one of the worst choices in MK history. I hope we never seeit again. As for the gameplay this time around, it looks fine. I was pleased with MK: DA and this looks a lot better even than that.
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By the way i hate tekken.And soul calibur all im asking is for the game to be a little faster i would really like it if they brought back the run button.

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 •07/29/2004 08:57 PM (UTC) •
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What is wrong with the run button?
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 •07/29/2004 09:15 PM (UTC) •
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If Deception has the run button it'll KILL the game!!
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 •07/29/2004 09:17 PM (UTC) •
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kamionero Wrote:


The DA gameplay is much closer to tekken than any MK! that's y it sucked for some. also, ucould barely jump, like in Soul Calibur, and it was slow like tekken.
Tekken is about technique and particular moves, while the 2d MK where about speed and special moves (and jumping all over the screen).
That's y im happy with the D gameplay, it's swift, agile, and has uppercuts and others back


I agree so much with you! thats exactly the problem (at my eyes)! I want to jump all over the screen in 3D sad ...
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 •07/29/2004 09:38 PM (UTC) •
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I agree, and that's why the characters are going to have all their special moves back ( at least that's what i heard)

kamionero Wrote:
The DA gameplay is much closer to tekken than any MK! that's y it sucked for some. also, ucould barely jump, like in Soul Calibur, and it was slow like tekken.
Tekken is about technique and particular moves, while the 2d MK where about speed and special moves (and jumping all over the screen).
That's y im happy with the D gameplay, it's swift, agile, and has uppercuts and others back

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 •07/29/2004 09:45 PM (UTC) •
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
But from what I can see, the gameplay has been strongly upgraded. If they can do a good job on both, then what's the problem?


Its the fact that the game still isn't up to par with where it should. Is it better? Sure, but its still trailing.
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 •07/29/2004 09:46 PM (UTC) •
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Brunão wrote Deception has the run button it'll KILL the game!!

Can you please explain how it would kill the game i dont understand can you be specific.
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 •07/29/2004 10:01 PM (UTC) •
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I can't really explain, dude... it's just that you don't keep runnig around during a fight! in a fight... you fight!!
And in MK3, when you have little life and you jump back to try to save yourself, the damn cpu ran towards you and killed you with a huge s combo!
Irritating! And besides, I don't think it would look real in MK:D
And it kinda breaks the martial arts image, you know... you're there, fighting tae kwon do, and all of the sudden you start running?!!?!?! It just doesn't make any sense... you know what I mean, dude? glasses
But that's only my opinion... smile
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Brunão wrote Deception has the run button it'll KILL the game!!

Can you please explain how it would kill the game i dont understand can you be specific.

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